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sleepersilvia92
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1993 240sx coupe s1 rb25det,1989 hatch sr20det
holbrook ny
6-3-2007
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 3:58 PM 6/23/2008 |
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is there any relays that would cause the gauge cluster to not light up
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Andy65
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21 posts
1990 Nissan 240SX
Quebec
8-27-2008
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 8:21 PM 9/11/2008 |
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Hi Nistech - if you're avail I was hoping you might help please!
I enabled a kill switch that no-one knows how to operate and now I can't start my car. I'd like to remove it completely and perhaps install another at a later date.No-one remembers how to activate/deactivate this switch, so after buying this car last month, I've been driving it with the intention of one day removing this switch. I was following your procedure to get my headlamps working (great post by the way) and you prob guessed by now - my connect/disconnect of various connectors under the dash led to reactivating this switch. If you're able to help (I would really appreciate it), just let me know what you would need pictures of.
Regards,
Andy
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Andy65
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21 posts
1990 Nissan 240SX
Quebec
8-27-2008
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| « Re: (Andy65) | 4:58 PM 9/12/2008 |
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No worries - I was able to do it.
It was a key-pad kill switch. I just traced all the wires and started to remove all keypad wires. In the end, I was just left with Ignition wires which were easy to match up.Works good now.
Andy
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Andy65
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21 posts
1990 Nissan 240SX
Quebec
8-27-2008
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 6:48 PM 9/16/2008 |
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Good Job!!
I walked through this tutorial and was able to follow the current to the #4 relay. Power was going in the orange but nothing going out the purple or brown. Before looking for the relay, I connected the orange to the brown (after pulling the relay) and the right headlight popped up. I'm going to get the relay tomorrow and hopefully all works.
Regards,
Andy
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Andy65
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21 posts
1990 Nissan 240SX
Quebec
8-27-2008
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 7:34 PM 9/17/2008 |
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OK Now I'm confused and need help please.
If anyone can offer some advice - I would really appreciate it. Here's my problem with the headlights: The headlights illuminate when I use the headlight switch but the lights don't pop up. I traced the power as was mentioned in this article - the orange wire going into #4 relay was at 10.44 when the lights were on but nothing was on the brown or purple wires coming out of the #4 relay. I thought it was a relay problem so I bought a new one from our local Nissan dealer and no luck. If I bypass the relay by pulling it out and placing a connection from orange to brown, both headlight motors work and the lights pop up then turn on nicely - but that's it. I have to manually take them down, then start tracing all over again. Is there something I'm missing - am I looking in the wrong place?
Please help if you can.
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Andy65
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21 posts
1990 Nissan 240SX
Quebec
8-27-2008
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| « Re: (Andy65) | 10:24 PM 9/18/2008 |
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Fixed!!
I knew it had something to do with retractable relay# 4 in the box just behind the battery. After extensive testing and studying the FSM wiring diagrams, it turned out to be that purple wire had no power. I realized the relay needed power from the purple to operate, so I traced it back to the fusible link in the same box. These are hard to see if their broken, even if you pull them out. Anyways, after pulling out the link and creating my own (with wires), lights worked perfectly. I'll be going tomorrow and get myself a link to fit in here.
Whew!!
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Crazian609
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92 S13 KA-T
Yucaipa CA
10-28-2008
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First Off I would like to Thank Nistech for all the help... I got pretty good using the volt meter... BUT I STILL NEED HELP...After doing everything like u said testing votage from the switch to the Relays and Diode pack.. Everything tested A OK.. Power to everything.. my problem is my RET MTR Fuse located in the Fuse box next to the bat. It pops every time I try to push the Headlight Master button. My headlights Do go up and down if I jump the two connectors (Ya i know thats stupid cause itll eventually burn other things) But i got axious to try.. So I know everything is working UP to that point... My hypothesis is that my wire to that fuse is grounding out... The car is completly stock.. Never lowered so Tire rubbage is not possible to the harness on the Driverside fender...
Thing Is I dont know where that wire runs to
Were it connects to.
Were to start to test.
The wire color to the RET MTR 25a Fuse Is solid purple correct? Can you tell me were this wire connects to? Instead of me trying to find were it is grounding out.. I plan on rewiring this Wire Hence... Ghetto Rig it cause tracing this thing is a effen pain... Thank You for your help. EDITED: OK today I got more into it... It wasnt the purple wire that was grounding out... That wire Leads all the way to the purple on the master switch... That wire should get a constant 12volt current... What I did find was the Solid green wire on the master switch was the one grounding out... When I Pull the terminal outta the plug It no longer pops my RET MTR 25amp fuse... And it does Make my head lights go up... But not down.. I traced that Green wire back to the Fuse box were ur HL Down and HL relays are... it connects to the HL Down relay.... That wire even though its unpluged is getting a constant 12 volts.. and it looks partly melted..... So again... Were does this Solid GREEN wire connect to? so I can route my own wire around that?
Modified by Crazian609 at 5:14 PM 10/30/2008
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underground_army
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56 posts
Nissan 240sx 1990
Tustin ca
7-13-2008
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| « Re: (Crazian609) | 6:26 PM 11/21/2008 |
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ok here i go im stuck i tried to follow u guys and i did but everything is ok with my wires and relays and fuses also my lights wont go up or down they stay there since i tried to do sleepy eyes and i got a spark so help me out here
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richiev8s13
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135 posts
v8 240sx
hermitage pa
1-4-2009
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| « Re: (underground_army) | 5:20 PM 1/15/2009 |
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i have a smae proble but my lights dont go up they come down if i manualy crank them up and the diode pack has no burn marks on it and the low and high beams work but when i flick the high beams the head light dont go up either fuse is good also
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underground_army
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56 posts
Nissan 240sx 1990
Tustin ca
7-13-2008
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| « Re: (richiev8s13) | 11:39 AM 1/17/2009 |
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having the same problem and still cant figure out anything i wish i can help you out but i cant 
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cole d
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50 posts
Civic htbk
West Tx
10-1-2008
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| « Re: (underground_army) | 11:43 AM 6/25/2009 |
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Did any of you guys get your problems resolved my headlight won't pop up or down. They come on just fine though I've read through everything and tested almost everything with no luck. Please help
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cole d
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Civic htbk
West Tx
10-1-2008
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 9:52 AM 6/26/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NISTECH » | | The difference in operation between the 3 modes of opening is the time control unit recieves a signal on terminal 3 when turning the headlights from parking lights to headloghts[the point at which the motors are suppose to operate to up] In the other 2 choices it does not send a signal to that terminal. BUT that circuit also uses its own fuse. so you need to look at the fuse too. Note though that fuse supposedly also powers your marker and tail lights. Still check to make sure the 3rd fuse up on the right side of your fuse box in the drivers kick panel has power on both sides when the switch is turned on. It is a 15 amp fuse. If it does go to the time control unit and do the same test on terminal #3 with the switch turned to the on position. The timer is located in the drivers kick panel, and its black not the colors I mentioned before. When you pull the kick panel trim off you will see 2 controllers one white and one black. the one further in is black, that is the unit your after. |
Alright guys I'm at this step and I don't have power to the right side of the fuse located in the driver kick panel any suggestions ?????
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TOYROCKSTAR
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1989 240SX
PERRIS CA
8-3-2009
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| « Re: (underground_army) | 1:16 PM 8/4/2009 |
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ok on my 240sx the headlights won't go down i have to set them down manually, they do pop up. help anyone thanks
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dbrass240
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97 posts
89 hatch wit de sr
Middle GA Area
4-11-2006
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| « Re: (TOYROCKSTAR) | 6:56 PM 8/4/2009 |
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its your headlight switch (the one that comes off the steering column)I had the same problem and ordered a new one from advanced auto and it works fine now . . .
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Sway5000
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92 240sx Fastback
Charlotte NC
8-11-2009
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| « Re: (dbrass240) | 12:22 PM 8/12/2009 |
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Im currently following this thread as well. My headlights will flip up when the button is pushed or when the brights are flashed but not when I just turn the headlights on. They will not go down my pushing the switch either. I have done everything almost. I have power at the fuse and at the red-blue wire at the timer. I dont have power on the orange wire at the timer nor at terminal 26 at the switch. When I backprobe the orange wires at the diode one has like 0.18V and the other has zero. I have not had a chance to check at the h/l retract 4 relay because its raining outside and I dont want to get shocked. Whats next?
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Sway5000
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92 240sx Fastback
Charlotte NC
8-11-2009
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| « Re: (Sway5000) | 1:57 PM 8/12/2009 |
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Ok when I checked the orange wire at h/l retract 4 I had the same 0V with the h/l off and 0.18V when the headlights are on. The Purple wire had 12V at it. I have no idea what or where to go from here. Please help!
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danielitogon
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garlan tx
10-14-2009
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| « Re: Headlights won't pop up... (Danrc30) | 8:18 AM 10/14/2009 |
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while yours wont pop up, mine wont go down. i was messing with my radio one day trying to get some tweeters connected when i saw a cable hanging there. it unfortunately touched metal and, well you know what happened. i traced that cable back to where its origins where, and to my surprise, it was an old alarm system the car used to have. if anyone has any suggestions as to how to get the lights down, or what to do with that alarm box thingy, i would appreciate it.
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mick
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208 posts
1990 240SX
South Bay CA
12-31-2004
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Each motor has a knob you can turn to raise or lower the lights
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