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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
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12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 9:26 PM 6/13/2005 |
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Ah... I see... Well, I'm extremely happy now that they work properly. Thanks so much for the help. If you need any parts, I'll see if I can hook you up. I still have some stuff left... white 93 hatchback...
My baby... 
http://deloreanmidatlantic.com...r.JPG93 240SX vert. too, WIP
 "68% of Republicans don't believe in evolution, on the other hand, only 5% of monkey's believe in Republicans." ---Stephen Colbert
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NISTECH
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Drivers power window master switch?
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 9:43 PM 6/13/2005 |
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Sorry, car came with manual windows... it was a bottom line car. I just got it for a 5-speed tranny swap from the auto that came in mine.I'll see if I can find you one though...
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NISTECH
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Nah dont sweat it man, mine works, I am just missing the black cap over the passenger switch. Its really not that big a deal. I appreciate it though.
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onosqv
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8-7-2002
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 10:59 AM 6/15/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Danrc30 » | | YES! THAT WAS IT!!! IT WORKS... IT WORKS!!!!!!!! HAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! WOOOOHOOOO!!!!! YOU DA BOMB!!!! Now, I gotta ask you this... at what point did you know that was my problem? Did I have to tear all of those other things apart to figure it out, or could we have switched that in the beginning to see if that was the problem? |
Can you take a pic of that bad boy? I'm having your exact same problem & was trying to follow your steps.
bew bews!
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onosqv
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8-7-2002
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 11:04 AM 6/15/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NISTECH » | | Drivers power window master switch? |
Do you need just the switch & not the bezel? I may have the switch (bezel is cracked) -  - I'm so excited I'm gonna pull my car apart tonite... maybe even @ lunch - finally, lights that go up correctly, hehheehhehehehehe. Been looking for this answer for MONTHS!
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (brokeAs240sx) | 11:05 AM 6/15/2005 |
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If you mean the part I had to replace, a pic won't help unfortunately. This is because it's hidden under either a semi-clear plastic sheathing, or under black electrical tape. In both cars, the part was taped to another part of the wiring harness under and intertwined with the climate control unit's wiring harness. If you really dig deep back there, you should find it. When you uncover it, you'll see it's blue with a clear cap on the end and a bunch of arrows on it just like nissan mechanic said. Hope that helps. Let me know if you find it...
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onosqv
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8-7-2002
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 1:06 PM 6/15/2005 |
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Is it a blue plug w/ 6 wires? orange, orange w/ black tracer, 2 red ones, 1 pink one, 1 yellow one?And connected to it should be a blue relay thing-a-ma-bobber? The orange & orange w/ black tracer should be jumpered together right? I get power on one and not the other. If so, I found my problem... had to remove that for the s13 digital climate control install.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (brokeAs240sx) | 7:40 PM 6/15/2005 |
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I'm not positive on all of the wire colors, but if you remove the semi-clear cap on the "blue-thingy"  you'll see a tiny circuitboard. One of the lines on mine was burnt out. Take a look at that and if you see a burnt spot, you know yours is bad.
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onosqv
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8-7-2002
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 8:21 PM 6/15/2005 |
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AND FIXED!!!!!! hoo hoo hoo.And now to my other back feeding/power issues... 
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NISTECH
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| « Re: (brokeAs240sx) | 10:56 PM 6/15/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by brokeAs240sx » | Do you need just the switch & not the bezel? I may have the switch (bezel is cracked) - - I'm so excited I'm gonna pull my car apart tonite... maybe even @ lunch - finally, lights that go up correctly, hehheehhehehehehe. Been looking for this answer for MONTHS! |
Yep just the switches the bezel on mine is fine.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 11:48 AM 6/27/2005 |
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Ok, now I'm REALLY ANNOYED!!! The right (passenger) headlight stopped going down again! (I guess you could say it's "stuck up"  ) I already replaced the grey relay on the passenger side under the hood. The drivers side goes up and down as it should when the switch is turned on. What could be causing this now?!?!?! 
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onosqv
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8-7-2002
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 12:15 PM 6/27/2005 |
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Maybe your car just likes winking .You're going to have to go through all that wiring test stuff Nistech taught you, haha. So your passenger light will go up? but not down (i.e. you set it down manually, then it will pop up correctly)? By now, you might as well rerun your own wires to the damn headlights, . **EDIT: yea, Nistech, can't find the switches, o well .
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (brokeAs240sx) | 12:21 PM 6/27/2005 |
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I haven't set it down manually... No way am I rewiring this car... that's a recipe for disaster! I't gotta be something stupid like another small part or relay that went bad. ---hoping nistech will once again come to the rescue...
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NISTECH
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5-25-2003
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pull the cap off the motor and manually crank it down. Make sure your lights and retract switchs are in the down position when you do it. If you start cranking it and it takes off on you and goes down. retry the switches and see if it starts functioning again. It may be the contacts in the motor are bad. If thats it swap the motor from the other car to this one.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 1:06 PM 6/27/2005 |
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I think my car either has a mind of its own, or it's possessed. Since it looks stupid with one headlight up, I just kept both up by using the switch on the dashboard. I just went out to try your method. I hit the switch and the drivers side went down right away, which was followed shortly by the passenger side. So now it's an intermittent problem. Does this mean the motor is on its way out?
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NISTECH
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Yep sounds like the motor has a poor connection internally since both lights use the same signal to go up or down.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 7:50 PM 6/27/2005 |
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Can I open up the motor and repair the faulty connection?
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NISTECH
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I have neer ripped one open but its probably possible just becarful with it as there are small parts in it.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: passenger headlight won't go down again... | 6:42 AM 7/20/2005 |
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Ok, the headlight stopped going down again. I cranked it down several times and it pops up when I hit the lights but it won't go down at all on its own. I even tried using another motor and the same thing happens. I think I've ruled out a faulty motor. What else could it be?(I used to love pop up headlights...  ) ---Dan
Modified by Danrc30 at 9:01 PM 7/20/2005
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NISTECH
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ok in your factory air cleaner area there is a black relay box sitting down in there. Find retract relay number 2. turn your head lights off and if your passenger head lamp is still up give that relay a little thump and see if the light goes down. If it does you have a bad relay.
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NISTECH
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Scratch that, looked at the wrong diagram sorry.Give me a bit, I think you have a connection problem somewhere, cause according to the circuit operation the only thing it could be is a motor. But I have to look at wiring diagrams to determine where the connectors all are.
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NISTECH
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ARGE!! I looked at the diagram and there are no connectors between the splice that feeds terminal 2 of the motors. So break out the volt meter and operate the lights to the down position. You should see 12 volts on terminal 2 [purple with white tracer wire. If you see voltage there it is your motor.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
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12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 7:41 AM 7/23/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NISTECH » | | ARGE!! I looked at the diagram and there are no connectors between the splice that feeds terminal 2 of the motors. So break out the volt meter and operate the lights to the down position. You should see 12 volts on terminal 2 [purple with white tracer wire. If you see voltage there it is your motor. |
Finally got a chace to check it... I'm getting 5 volts on the purple wire with white tracer when the lights are in the down position.
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NISTECH
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on both of them? or just the one that wont go down?
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 9:49 PM 7/23/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NISTECH » | | on both of them? or just the one that wont go down? |
I only checked the one that won't go down...
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NISTECH
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Check the other I am curious to see if it is getting full power or only partial.
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 9:49 AM 7/25/2005 |
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I get .03A on the drivers side light purple wire with white stripe when lights are down. The kick in the a$$ is after I reconnected the passenger side light, it started working again! It's gotta be a problem in that plug... right?
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CaoBoY
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240sx
Central Valley 2o9 California
2-14-2005
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sounds like you need a silvia front conversion, that would solve ur problems!
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Danrc30
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93 240SX convertible, 81 DeLorean, 81 280ZX Turbo, 85 300ZX Turbo, 00 4Runner Ltd., 90 RC30
NJ
12-8-2004
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| « Re: (CaoBoY) | 11:45 AM 7/25/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by CaoBoY » | | sounds like you need a silvia front conversion, that would solve ur problems! |
How nice of you to offer... when should I expect delivery?
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NISTECH
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 5:52 PM 7/25/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Danrc30 » | | I get .03A on the drivers side light purple wire with white stripe when lights are down. The kick in the a$$ is after I reconnected the passenger side light, it started working again! It's gotta be a problem in that plug... right? |
Yep or the wires in the immediate area.
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CaoBoY
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2-14-2005
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| « Re: (Danrc30) | 12:40 AM 7/26/2005 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Danrc30 » | How nice of you to offer... when should I expect delivery? |
nistech can get you one, he owes me! lol i gave him my tranny for free, maybe he can spread the givingness and give you one! lol sorryi couldnt help, htats about all i can do. good luck though! 
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NISTECH
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LOL yeah and that trans is still sitting right where I set it in my garage the day I brought it home. As I look around in my garage I dont seem to have any silvia clips sittin around though.
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ma61_84
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240sx
melborune VIC
9-21-2005
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ive got this problem too only mine is much worse, the plastic connector that goes behind the headlight is melting at the connection. if i remove the second to last relay located near the air filter they pop up but then i have no power to the headlight. after taking it to an auto electrician they have stuffed it up even more now they dont pop up at all even with the relay removed. so frustrating. can anyone help?
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ma61_84
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melborune VIC
9-21-2005
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nistech if ur out there i need ur help, ive got the same problem as Dan, if u could explain in easy to understand format i would really appreciate it thanks
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NISTECH
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Man the way you got it is the simplest way I can could give it to ya. The circuit is very complex , It has multiple functions and uses the time control unit to determine head light location and direction of travel. My first suggestion would be to correct the melted socket. Then check your grounds at the motor brakets , make sure they are clean and secure.
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ma61_84
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melborune VIC
9-21-2005
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yeah ive checked the grounds and replaced the socket, is the blue relay behind the radio stuffed?
is it the one with the plastic cover and have a
square shape? do i replace this relay? cheers.
ps my msn is 'sna1980@hotmail.com' if u could help me fix it i would really be grateful
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NISTECH
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I dont use messenger. I think what your looking for behind the radio is the Diode pack. It just looks like a connector with a blind plug in it. It may be wrapped in tape along the harness. Once you get a visual of the connector there are little symbols on the blind connector side of it. they look like little triangles whith a line going across the point of the triangle.
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abross
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| « Re: Headlights won't pop up... (s13sr20chris) | 5:40 PM 7/1/2007 |
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Where did you find the diagram? And is there any way to get more diagrams on the internet?
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jjanes123
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1984 300zx
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| « Re: (NISTECH) | 7:56 PM 8/10/2007 |
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I saw this old post and I was wondering if you could help. I am having the same problem with the headlights but I am also not getting any signals to include hazards. could that same voltage regulator be the issue? I am going to replace the swith on the steering wheel but I don't believe thats the problem. Any help
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