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jace111

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97 civic coupe, gsr. 92 240sx hatch rb20det
Las Vegas NV
12-2-2008

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damn. great thread. im sure your curious as to what it will run in the quarter?
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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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Quote, originally posted by jace111 »
damn. great thread. im sure your curious as to what it will run in the quarter?

Eh, not super curious. Thats not really what my intensions for the car are. But yeah, it would be nice to know some day.



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7-24-2007

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there's a guy who twin turboed his vh41, and put it into a ford torana!

over in the vh45 forum...believe it


http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...age=3




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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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That is badasss. But this is the vh45 forum hahaa
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1970 Datsun 521 w/CA18DET
San Diego Ca
7-31-2006

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"Discuss topics related to the VH41DE, VH45DE, VK45DE, and VK56DE engines"

not according to this page:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeromain?id=173

haha. crazy you have a beautiful build btw



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R32 GTR
Australia
10-5-2007

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No such thing as a ford Torana. Try maybe a Holden Torana



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s14 240sx
springfield tn
12-13-2008

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wow great swap




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92SR20S13

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sr20det-s13
calgary alberta
3-13-2007

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How stiff are all you're mounts, Everything looks like it barrrely fits....Do you have problems with ****t rubbing at all?
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1995 Nissan 240sx SE, 91 240 fastback LE, 1997 kouki S14, DD = 93 Nissan Maxima
La Crosse WI
11-19-2005

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Great ****!! Keeping this one on my recent threads. UPDATE FOO! LoL




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95 sr20 240, 93 ca18 240
Rockwood TN
12-26-2008

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Looks awesome. originality FTW



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Decatur GA
7-15-2007

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Just came across this thread, and I'm so jealous right now.
Awesome build.
Quote, originally posted by CrazyTrance »

But anyways. I put the two new injectors in along with new plugs on those cylinders and holy **** what do ya know, it fixes ALL of my problems. It sounds WAY different now and actually pulls like it should, like a bat outta hell; it's a beast! The smell of burning rubber is the greatest smell ever. Especially when it comes with the sound this engine makes.

Psyched i am.. for sure.

I know I'm late but congrats on getting it running.

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1995 nissan 240sx
Lima/Washington Ohio/DC
12-25-2008

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man your projects alot simular to mine. i have a s14 and i bought a whole q45 off a guy for 300 dollars. i also have stances and a few other mods on it. my builds been under way for 2 months now so u might be getting some questions form me lol
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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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Sorry i haven't updated this thread in a while guys. Been really busy with school. I ended up hitting a curb and dented the hell out of my oilpan and exhaust. Had to limp it home and ended up changing the oilpan with the engine still in the car believe it or not. I had to unbolt the oil pickup tube from the side with the oilpan unbolted. Then slide the oilpan forward in order to get it out. Luckily i could get at the pickup tube bolts haha.

Anyways. I just ordered some knock sensors and an adjustable FPR as in the hurry to get it done i forgot i had put a walbro in and its been running unregulated. So hopefully that will cure my misfiring issues at 2500rpm and under i'm still having. Yeah its dumb to run it on a stock fpr. But i was in a hurry lol.

Anyways, Thanks everyone!

I'll try to update with progress pictures of the install on those knock sensors.

I ordered 350z knock sensors as they are the same. You just need to solder on new connectors from a ka24de injector harness and shave part of the knock sensor. I'll be sure to take pics.


Quote, originally posted by 92SR20S13 »
How stiff are all you're mounts, Everything looks like it barrrely fits....Do you have problems with ****t rubbing at all?

They are very stiff. Its sitting on hockey pucks which is almost solid mounts.

I havent had much issues with anything rubbing. And there is 1/4 inch between the frame rail and the steering column. Hell my Oil filter is less than a quarter inch away from the frame rail.

Quote, originally posted by district_drftr »
man your projects alot simular to mine. i have a s14 and i bought a whole q45 off a guy for 300 dollars. i also have stances and a few other mods on it. my builds been under way for 2 months now so u might be getting some questions form me lol

I'd be happy to help. Its a sweet swap.


slacker_221

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1993 Nissan 240SX
Moorpark ca
1-27-2009

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Wow found this thread and couldnt stop reading it, Very nice work. Love all the custom fabrications!
90sxappeal

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1990 Nissan 240sx
Indianapolis 46231
2-3-2009

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Awesome job. Makes me wanna do something crazy to mine. lol
ALEX_HOPPER

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1990 240sx
morton il
11-15-2006

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do you have the ka still????
MN240SXDriv3r

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1992 GMC Sierra (aka the monsta)
Brooklyn Park Minnesota
12-28-2006

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Amazing build man. Simply amazing. I noticed you were in Golden Valley, I live in Fargo, ND at the moment for school, but maybe one day that I come down to the cities, I could check this out in person. Update us some more! Also do you know of any other 240's around that are pretty cheap?



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1989 240sx
Baytown Tx
2-9-2009

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nice project yo
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89' 240sx fastback
new york
1-28-2009

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Great build Bro !
drifterdevin



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1985 toyota corolla, 1991 nissan 240sx, 1994 nissan sentra, 1991 infiniti Q45
toronto ont
12-14-2008

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I’m going to do the same swap as you, only I paid only $100 for the infinity Q45 with only 133,000 miles on it. But what I would like to know is how dose the car handles with that V8 in it? Is there much of a weight difference
Carl H
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1995 240SX SE RB20DET Powered!, 1995 Jaguar XJR...needs paint.
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if your suspension is good the car handles phenomially.
i know.



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miami fl
2-26-2007

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wieght difference lol?? yes like 200 lbs
dsc4130



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89 two tone (rb20det)
fenton mo
7-20-2005

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i have a question, im really thinking about ditching my rb20 and doing a vh45 swap. i like the idea of having the same power i have now, but the motor be n/a stock. how did you guys handle the speedo?



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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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I'll try to update soon with all the BS i've been figuring out/doing. This weekend i've been really busy; I took a road trip to Sioux Falls to meet my Girlfriend there and hang out for like 5 days for Valentines day. So i should be able to update as soon as school gives me a break haha.


Quote, originally posted by MN240SXDriv3r »
Amazing build man. Simply amazing. I noticed you were in Golden Valley, I live in Fargo, ND at the moment for school, but maybe one day that I come down to the cities, I could check this out in person. Update us some more! Also do you know of any other 240's around that are pretty cheap?

Possibly. And dude, you can find a 240 almost anywhere. Check Craigslist, AutoTrader, Local forums.. (D-Town, MNSC.net, etc.) 240's are almost always cheap, it's just not cheap to fix them or do anything to them.

Quote, originally posted by drifterdevin »
I’m going to do the same swap as you, only I paid only $100 for the infinity Q45 with only 133,000 miles on it. But what I would like to know is how dose the car handles with that V8 in it? Is there much of a weight difference

Well, it's comparible to an RB swap. It's quite a bit more weight. The block itself probably weighs the same as an SR hooked up to a tranny with everything attached.. At least somewhere around there. I never really drove it without the v8 in it.. so it's hard to tell. I let my buddy play around in it and he says its not that bad compared to his SR. But like Carl said. Get some decent suspension, tweak it and you will be fine.

Quote, originally posted by dsc4130 »
i have a question, im really thinking about ditching my rb20 and doing a vh45 swap. i like the idea of having the same power i have now, but the motor be n/a stock. how did you guys handle the speedo?

Mine works fine.. Well some of the time. I have a bad speed sensor i'm pretty sure. So it works on and off. Not sure if its the actual signal going to the speedo or that the signal is wrong.. I havent really cared enough to figure that out yet. I'm still trying to get it to run decently and not misfire every day haha. Oh what the lack of funds will do to a project...

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1990 Subaru Legacy Wagon Touring Edition, Mitsu Elclipse 2003 GS, 240SX Nissan 1990, 2001 Hyundai El
Brookfield CT
2-13-2009

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OMG THATS SO SEXY... id give you a full 30 rack for the sexyness of this car.




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97 Nissan 240sx
Saint Louis MO
8-14-2007

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Sick swap man, sounds like alot of small s*** could go wrong though I have a quick question, did you use your stock KA radiator?, also did you relocate your PS brackets?



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7-28-2003

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Quote "there's a guy who twin turboed his vh41, and put it into a ford torana! "
Ouch
Thats like saying a Ford Camaro lol
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'91 240sx coupe, rb20det
Eugene OR
2-2-2005

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Do you recommend someone else uses hockey pucks for a street car? Does it shake the whole car and cause noises that make you want to pull your hair out?

Also, I noticed your hood isnt cut up, did I miss something? How is your hood clearing?

Any regrets, or things you'd do differently? I've sourced my motor and trans, getting ready to pull the trigger on this...

Thanks
-Max



Fast car huh?

......You've never heard of my s13? Its the 240 that made the Kessel run in less than 12 parsec's...

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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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Quote, originally posted by DriftingisLame »
Do you recommend someone else uses hockey pucks for a street car? Does it shake the whole car and cause noises that make you want to pull your hair out?

Also, I noticed your hood isnt cut up, did I miss something? How is your hood clearing?

Any regrets, or things you'd do differently? I've sourced my motor and trans, getting ready to pull the trigger on this...

Thanks
-Max

Yeah man, it's fine. The VH is so smooth if it's running right you wont even feel it. I Daily drive mine every day to school and back. Take it on 600 mile trips to my home in MN and back.

I have my engine mounted SUPER low. It's only 1/4 inch above my steering rack and all i have to do is prop up the back of the hood a little bit and it will close, just barely touching the plenum. But consequently my oil pan hangs really low.. It's up to you. Make your own mounts and have it low like me or mount it higher, OR buy the mazworx mounts.

Nope, no regrets. Well maybe the amount of time i spent doing it rather than hanging out with my girlfriend and friends... but other than that no haha. Just make sure you've got good injectors, good MAF, and good compression. Also dont forget to check your timing chain guides!!!

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2-2-2005

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Great man, good to hear. Likely I'll have the motor at my house for a while before I even take my RB out, I'll pull the front cover off and check the timing chain guides. Thats not something I'll let go, they're too easy to replace outside of the car.

I'm really glad to hear I can keep my hood somewhat intact, my car doesnt sit incredibly low. I'm not very worried about bottoming out.

Thankfully things didnt work out with my ex girlfriend so I should have minimal distractions LOL.

Thanks for the prompt answers, I'll update you once I have the motor!

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nice work, very inspirational.
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3-19-2007

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Quote, originally posted by CrazyTrance »

Yeah man, it's fine. The VH is so smooth if it's running right you wont even feel it. I Daily drive mine every day to school and back. Take it on 600 mile trips to my home in MN and back.

I have my engine mounted SUPER low. It's only 1/4 inch above my steering rack and all i have to do is prop up the back of the hood a little bit and it will close, just barely touching the plenum. But consequently my oil pan hangs really low.. It's up to you. Make your own mounts and have it low like me or mount it higher, OR buy the mazworx mounts.

Nope, no regrets. Well maybe the amount of time i spent doing it rather than hanging out with my girlfriend and friends... but other than that no haha. Just make sure you've got good injectors, good MAF, and good compression. Also dont forget to check your timing chain guides!!!

You've done the swap the closest to the way I'm going with it and I wanted to ask a few questions. Fuel system: What pump did you use and did you use the Q's fuel pump control unit and since it's cheaper do you think the walboro would work. What regulator did you use. and on the emissions and idle quality stuff did you use the KA's stuff or the VH's?

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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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Quote, originally posted by EMK »

You've done the swap the closest to the way I'm going with it and I wanted to ask a few questions. Fuel system: What pump did you use and did you use the Q's fuel pump control unit and since it's cheaper do you think the walboro would work. What regulator did you use. and on the emissions and idle quality stuff did you use the KA's stuff or the VH's?

I'm using a walbro 255 for a fuel pump. Nope, don't need the fuel pump control unit.

I was running it without an adjustable fpr for a while... but right now i'm running just a megan adjustable fpr. Got it from FRSport. It's working fine as far as i can tell.

As far as emissions stuff goes. I dont have any. Took out all the egr lines, took a steel plate and bolted it to where the egr solenoid would go using a new oem gasket inbetween.

It idle's fine. Sometimes when its cold and i start it it likes to rev up and down for a little bit for some reason... havent quite figured that one out yet.
But other than that it idles at a smooth 800rpm.

I believe Carl on here kept all of his egr stuff. I just figured the hell with it and pulled it all out.

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i did keep egr because one of the main focus points of this swap was to keep gas mileage as high as possible.
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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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And i did not care haha.

I think the highest i got was like 23mpg on the way to Minneapolis from Rapid City.

Just recently i got 19 or 20 on the way back from Minneapolis on a different occasion.

In town it sucks... or if your beating on it. haha

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1990 Integra
Atlanta GA
9-11-2002

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So you did an S13 before you did a Z32? I'm really curios how they cimpare in difficulty. I guess using a KA altenator helps in the S. Did you use one in the Z? The oil pan is stock int he S and you had to fab something in the Z?
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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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What? I didn't do this swap in a Z..
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Oops. Must have had you confused with someone else
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I have to give you +++++ on this. I think I'm going to get fired from work today cuz I have not done s*** during the morning because of reading every single post of this F**ng Great build. First of all you the man because you didn't give up on you goal when you was ripped with the clip with the SR. I had a simillar problem to your and almost gave up on my car build up, but my mom told me that I had to finish what I started and not to give up on it and she's not even a car girl. So great Job!. I'm going on my third year on my '89 240sx SR20DET build and all I need right now is to get it painted.
And also I like that everything was done by you, just like I have done with my car, from putting the engine in to wiring the freaking thing up, not like other people that take it to a shop and have someone else do it for them then they say, oh look what I built.




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1991 Nissan 240sx - vh45de
Golden Valley Minnesota
4-4-2005

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Quote, originally posted by hannibal »
Oops. Must have had you confused with someone else

It's cool, no worries.

Quote, originally posted by drkidd22 »
I have to give you +++++ on this. I think I'm going to get fired from work today cuz I have not done s*** during the morning because of reading every single post of this F**ng Great build. First of all you the man because you didn't give up on you goal when you was ripped with the clip with the SR. I had a simillar problem to your and almost gave up on my car build up, but my mom told me that I had to finish what I started and not to give up on it and she's not even a car girl. So great Job!. I'm going on my third year on my '89 240sx SR20DET build and all I need right now is to get it painted.
And also I like that everything was done by you, just like I have done with my car, from putting the engine in to wiring the freaking thing up, not like other people that take it to a shop and have someone else do it for them then they say, oh look what I built.

Thanks, glad i was able to get you fired haha. But seriously, dont give up. It'll be worth it.


So here's an update. Some of these things i did a few months ago.

Knock sensors! These are from a 350z which are WAY cheaper than buying q45 knock sensors. I think they were like 35 bucks each or something like that. Anyways, get a pigtail from a KA injector harness and then solder them in place of the q45 knock sensor connectors.

Here's the knock sensors i received.

New knock sensor on the right, old on the left. Notice the difference in plugs.


Injector harness pigtails needed to be soldered.


You also have to cut one of the notches off the Z's knock sensors in order for the plug to fit. Once you do that it snaps right on.


Believe it or not, i was able to get both knock sensors replaced without removing the coolant y-connector.


On ething i noteced though is that the 350z knock sensor diagram shows that bothe pins are used. But i figured out one just needs to be grounded. I think i just put a crimp connector on the right pin (when looking at the knock sensor directly) and then twisted it and grounded it with the bolt that secures the knock sensor to the block. No problems thus far. Knock sensor code went away.


Plenum!!

So i had an extra plenum lying around and decided to clean it. Took it to a place to get it cleaned and they said they couldn't boil it because it was aluminum. So they put it in this tank that shot hot soapy water everywhere... Needless to say it didnt do much at all. Was kinda pissed. I could do more with acetone and a toothbrush when i brought it back to my house.


Anyways, told my buddy about it and got hooked me up with some free bead blasting!

Here's some pics after i painted the runners and plenum so they dont corrode.


Also finally got an adjustable FPR. Tried out the megan one. Got it from FRsport. It's working pretty well so far from what i can tell.

Also got a set of 8 used injectors for a pretty awesome price. Helped figure out my stumbling problems and what not. Although i know they wont last forever..

Thats all that i can think of right now. Other than that i'm having big cooling problems. My system isn't pressurizing for some reason. Going to bleed the system, replace thermostat, caps, and possibly get a new water pump and another new/different radiator if nothing else seems to be working.

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