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1991 240sx KA-T, 1997 Prelude
Water Valley Mississippi
11-21-2002

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I feel as though "melted" is a key word here... maybe something to do with the PVC piping, getting all up in there?

Video would be nice.




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we wanna know!



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92 240sx/96 200sx bbdet/06 ram 2500 diesel
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1-26-2007

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Waiting watching, come on please.
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'90 240sx ka24e, '90 240sx ka24det
Elkhorn wi
11-24-2005

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waiting......... lets hear it or better yet SEE it....



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95 240sx SE Ka24det!!!
Oklahoma,Tulsa
5-1-2003

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12psi with stock inj, stock MAF his pistons are whats melted i bet



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11-25-2002

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Nope, wasn't any of the internal rotating parts that went. Out of all the things to go bad, this was the "best" option. Personally I think he's a puss if he doesn't fix it and boost it again...



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Overland Park KS
12-17-2002

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Bull**** WD, you know what it is and aren't sharing?



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1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002

 « Re: (Chezedik)


The first time he took her out on the track it overheated and a plug wire caught fire. The car was steadily increasing boost by itself as every lap went by.

Aaron left to go get a scuba certification but let Greg take the car around the track for a few hot laps. Greg is the one that "blew up" the motor.

How's that?

Chezedik
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1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002

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Bummer. So is Greg putting a new motor in it, LOL. So I am guessing that it just blew a ring land?
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1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002

 « Re: (Chezedik)


No and no...lol.
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'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004

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Sorry for the cliff hanger guys lol. I'm on a bit of a European tour right now, so I've been kinda busy.

Basically I think that the majority of damage to the engine was due to plain overheating. It blew the upper radiator hose on the back stretch of lap 7 and that's when I finally stopped, and found the burning plug wire . Pretty much I think the heat resulting from the incredibly lean situation was just too much for a 250k motor. It still runs, but it's tight enough that the starter can barely turn it and it won't idle. I'll tear it down when I get it out and take some pics of the internals for you all. I really think that with some 370's it would have run happily at 12psi, and kicked it good at the track. When I saw the boost beginning to creep I thought "I should pit and fix that", but since I didn't really care about the engine, I just kept it rolling!




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USA
11-25-2002

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You forgot to mention that Greg popped your headgasket.
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Vista CA
9-16-2004

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Well, I assume it is blown, but it's not super bad, and really probably due to me overheating it. Greg let us thrash the G, so I have no hard feelings .
Chezedik
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Overland Park KS
12-17-2002

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I am guessing that Loveland is in the four corners?
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nissan 240sx (looking for)
university place wa
10-10-2006

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so your gonna part it out now right? :D i wanna have fun with it too. :D cant find anyone around here willin to help me out to try something similar
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I am guessing that Loveland is in the four corners?

Nope, northern front range. About 1 hr north of Denver.


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so your gonna part it out now right? :D i wanna have fun with it too. :D cant find anyone around here willin to help me out to try something similar


I am parting it out. My buddy Ed says he may want it, so he has first dibs. If you want, I have another manifold laying around I can do up for you.

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Overland Park KS
12-17-2002

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I just assumed that since you knew AZ and WD and race together that you would close to AZ.
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Vista CA
9-16-2004

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Nope, just know them from NICO events and the forums.
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Ah...
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university place wa
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thatd be awesome if you could do a mani for me. :D
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Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
thatd be awesome if you could do a mani for me. :D

I'm in Europe right now, but I'll be home this weekend. I'll get in touch with you after I get home.

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12-17-2002

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You are just a travelling fool, aren't you?
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nissan 240sx (looking for)
university place wa
10-10-2006

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geez, only place i ever go to is japan...IF im lucky...
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12-13-2003

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Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
geez, only place i ever go to is japan...IF im lucky...

Wow that's tough. Dude how do you stand it??? I mean all that sushi and Japanese women I'm surprised that you haven't killed your self yet. Hang in there man maybe you will get to go to Montana one day.





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Lake Villa IL
4-30-2005

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Well I got to go to countries where it's nice a warm all day and night long about 114F , and they like to shoot at you if you don't worship the cow. And especially if your wearing cammies ...




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'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004

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I'm back home now, and the turbo setup will be removed and ready for sale shortly. The classifieds thread is here.
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6-27-2005

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Dude, I can't wait to see the next project you build after having some hands on experience on the last one!
I bet it's gonna be some MacGyver s**t that has something to do with a paperclip, some bubble gum, and a tube sock!

Naw, seriously.. You got to try something else man. I would definitely build the motor to be bulletproof first though. Then you can throw almost whatever you want at it!



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'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004

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Right now I'm preparing to put the 25 in the 240. It'll end up running a gt3071r, injectors and megasquirt, tuned to about 325whp.

The real upcoming project is the J30 track car we're planning. 450whp of VH45 goodness, possibly a z33 6 speed, full suspension, stripped and caged. Full out road race car...

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Denver CO
5-21-2007

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i just read through this entire thread, and it wasn't until i get to the end that i see you're in Loveland! I live in Denver, and have been trying to find any worthwhile 240 in this state with little luck, there's a couple S14s but no 13s yet. Are there any worthwhile meet ups in CO? I'd love to see the 25 when you get it done. And if you should randomly hear of any 240s goin for sale in CO, i'd appreciate a heads up!




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'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004

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UPDATE INTERNAL ENGINE PICS!!!!


The block:


A cylinder wall:


The head:


So basically, here's the deal.

The KA has gained my respect immensely. This is a 250k mi engine, harshly abused. When I got it the PO had trashed the guides and the chain was in the pan, in like 3 pieces. There are clearly visible marks on the tops of the pistons from contact with open valves. Notwithstanding, this thing held up to some major abuse (12 psi) while road racing with basically 0 management and minor ( FMU only) fuel mods. The head gasket was perfectly intact. There is no evidence whatsoever of detonation in the cylinders. There is very little ridge at the tops of the cylinders, even with the high mileage and the fact that when I got it there was a ton of coolant in the pan due to the timing chain wearing through the cover into the water jacket.

Just thought I'd give you guys a final update on this project. We're doing a major cleaning in the shop today so we figured now was the time to zip it apart and take some pics. The engine will be going in the dumpster shortly... The majority of the turbo setup is still for sale (even as cheap as it is... ).

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Inverness FL
6-27-2005

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Well done my friend!

After about 180k on my motor, I had the same light ridge at the top of my cylinder walls. The best thing about it, was that the factory cross hatch marks in the cylinders were still visible!

Good luck with your future endeavors!

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We are the all singing all dancing crap of the World
11-1-2004

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wow, that did alot better than i thought it would do!





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Oklahoma,Tulsa
5-1-2003

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so it was the ring lands???

Modified by Charlie240sxt at 5:07 PM 7/6/2007
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89 240sx KA-T
Detroit MI
11-10-2005

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Wow, that is one hell of a motor. Now we know why people buy imports. 12psi and no management and 250K - wow.



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1990 240sx ka24e
arecibo puerto rico
6-27-2007

 « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)


the motor cost is
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1989 NISSAN 240SX KA24E
Newnan ga
9-3-2006

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kat ftw




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Wyoming Mi
6-24-2007

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ccan we get a lis of parts and costs.




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'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004

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Ok, I'll run down this quickly but it should be pretty close.


Turbo: T25 should be about $200 in good shape, T28's will be more.

Manifold: Parts to modify approx. $25. I have made a couple for ppl at $125 per.

Downpipe: Approx. $30 depending on exactly how you do it.

Intercooler and piping: Get an eghey kit for approx. $120 and do some minor mods.

Turbo oil lines: $50-$150 depending on your quality standards.

8:1 FMU: Cheap ones are about $100 new, $50-70 use


That should be pretty much it. Wouldn't hurt to throw some colder plugs in, figure $25 for that or so...

Total then is something like $600 if you do the fabricating yourself and get decent oil lines and a new FMU and go with a SR T25.


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1995 Nissan 240sx
Topeka Kansas
8-26-2002

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Did you ever sell the kit? If not, can I have the turbo back?



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93 Mazda Miata
PA
12-8-2005

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so wait... chear this up for me... you got a rb25 engine set for cheap but yet your still messing aroud with a ka-t???

why?



Car: Nissan
Year: 1991
Model: 240SX
Color: Crap White
Style: Coupe
Engine: RB20DET
Trans: 5spd

Sold!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now a 1993 Mazda Miata......
The mazda miata is now sold.
I drive a second gen rx7 now..

dont worry rb20 friends I'll be back into a 240sx one day again.

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