eds13
Special Ed
Offline
5544 posts
We are the all singing all dancing crap of the World
11-1-2004
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 4:49 PM 3/25/2007 |
|
um... thats some serious ghetto riggin. have fun 
|
Florida240sx
Moderator
Offline
11625 posts
93 Hatch 5spd 93 vert 89 hatch
DeLand FL
7-1-2004
|
must have vid
http://www.itsfunnyhoney.com/v..._timeKA-T why settle for anything less?
|
WDRacing
Porn Crusader
Offline
16864 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
Great project man. I LOVE a serious DIY setup, and yours is basically the epitome of DIY. The CA is tiny, but for low boost it will be a fun daily driver. Probably get you close to 200WHP for extremely cheap. Do keep us posted.WD
 Truth is Treason in the Kingdom of Lies - Ron Paul
|
TheOne
Offline
1752 posts
93 240sx FB
Arlington TX
8-9-2004
|
i wish i had turbos and parts layin around:(, all i have is a block & crank & 2 messed up cylinder heads,lol.sounds like a nice build up though, for the price!
93' 240sx fastback - 10.240 @ the local 8th mile."Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races" - Carroll Shelby "Horsepower is the force that determines how fast you hit the wall. Torque is the force that determines how far you take the wall with you after you hit it." - Unknown "Real cars don't make power at the front wheels....they lift them."
|
sil80drifter
Offline
1309 posts
1990 240SX Hatch
Middle of CT CT
8-18-2002
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 8:26 AM 3/26/2007 |
|
That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole.
But 200whp! probably worth trying =]sil80
My HUGE Part Out Thread
I drive fast, I turn fast, I do everything fast. I even breakfast. I tend to confuse people with my sudden changes of heart. Sometimes I even confuse myself, which tends to cause problems.
|
boznuttz
mad wordsause
Offline
3516 posts
MS13
wordsause ny
3-15-2006
|
Lol! Keep us upadated!
NY/ PA/ NJ KA-T for sale --> http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...sx-xe
|
redtop91
Meat Gazer
Offline
16404 posts
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Broken Arrow OK
9-7-2006
|
| « Re: (boznuttz) | 8:53 AM 3/26/2007 |
|
This thread is like watching a fight. Someone should stop it but it is too damn entertaining.
|
S13FX
Polish Forum Moderator/ Web Dude
Offline
2412 posts
1990 Something or Another
Lake Villa IL
4-30-2005
|
| « Re: (redtop91) | 9:03 AM 3/26/2007 |
|
No way man I think this project is fwakin awesome. People spend so much effort to get 200rwhp NA, and here he will get it under 500 dollars, small turbo so no lag. This car will be fwakin awesome daily driver. And best of all the parts his using are really cheap to get too. Keep us posted homey.
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger. I am excited to see this old girl. I would use a smaller FMU if you can help it though. 8:1 may be a bit much for a t25. Although, I understand the point is affordability. You probably could skip the intercooler altogether with an 8:1 FMU. Good luck - you must post video!
Check me out, I'm a ricer: "I am going to get a stage two turbo kit, and nitrous, just like I saw on N4S Underground!!!"Stuff for Sale:
!!!BUY MY CAR!!!! 1991 240sx KA24DE-t for sale, very nice!
Stock and Performance Parts For Sale FS: KA24DE MAFS, Wheels, MORE! FS: TiAL 38mm, Jacob's i.C.E. Pak Ignition system, Z31 T3/T04b V-trim turbo more
|
eazye2000
Booze Hound
Offline
1748 posts
of FAIL...
Inverness FL
6-27-2005
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter) | 3:03 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by sil80drifter » | | That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole. sil80 |
  I'm gonna second that thought. But it can't be as bad as my Ford 4.9 I-6 with a T4 Blow Through Carburated setup i botched back in the day. I'll have to dig up pics.. This thread is gonna be teh sechs!!
    
Car is For Sale: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...56205
|
Edub1
Forum Sage
Offline
1931 posts
89 240sx KA-T
Detroit MI
11-10-2005
|
PVC pipe will melt.
American soldiers don't sign up to die for their country, they sign up to make the other poor son of a ***** die for his. Hoorah!
|
redtop91
Meat Gazer
Offline
16404 posts
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Broken Arrow OK
9-7-2006
|
| « Re: (Edub1) | 3:47 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
What if is not directly connected to the turbo?
|
Edub1
Forum Sage
Offline
1931 posts
89 240sx KA-T
Detroit MI
11-10-2005
|
| « Re: (redtop91) | 3:51 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
PVC might work after an intercooler but not before. Your compressed air will be far too hot and it will melt straight away.
|
WDRacing
Porn Crusader
Offline
16864 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: (Edub1) | 3:56 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
Aslong as it's not directly attached it will be fine on both sides of the IC. I suggest either long silicone hose or use a jbend for the initial output from the compressor. I've done it before, it works, ugly but effective.WD
|
Florida240sx
Moderator
Offline
11625 posts
93 Hatch 5spd 93 vert 89 hatch
DeLand FL
7-1-2004
|
Get a length of highstrength hose. Think the one we got is for sewer lines. Very thick walls. Has a wire inside of it.
|
S13psi
Offline
30 posts
'92 Hatch
Memphis Tn
12-29-2006
|
ghetto lovin'
el Cheapo Bandito!
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
Is the plan to run this until it blows, because I have to say, that could be a while if you are taking all of the appropriate steps, which it seems like you are. Do you have the SR piping for the sidemount, if you do, you are made in the shade.
|
redtop91
Meat Gazer
Offline
16404 posts
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Broken Arrow OK
9-7-2006
|
| « Re: (Chezedik) | 4:29 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
I'd like to see how long this lasts. There is a SOHC down the street that I'd like to pick up and eff with.
|
Bwana
Super Moderator
Offline
6618 posts
'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004
|
| « Re: (redtop91) | 5:31 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
The FMU I have is actually adjustable (in some way, it's a buddy's and I've never seen one like it before). I have a front mount that came with the RB, complete w/ piping (for the RB) so I may just throw that in there and figure out a way to make stuff line up. IF it doesn't blow (that's not really the goal, just considered the likely result) I'll drive it until I have the RB fully prepped to drop in. At that point, if everything is still in good shape I'll put the mani/turbo/downpipe/oil lines up for sale for a couple hundred bucks and someone else can enjoy a cheap KAeT  .
|
Bwana
Super Moderator
Offline
6618 posts
'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004
|
| « Re: (Chezedik) | 5:32 PM 3/26/2007 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger. |
I've been pre heating it with my torch before welding, which is working fine. After I get it all together I'll clean everything up with the tig too.
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
It will not blow if you correctly set the FMU. I would love an adjustable unit, but no one knows the level of adjustability. I may just make one adjustable. It would be pretty easy to do.
|
Brandon93240
Offline
511 posts
1993 240sx
houston tx
2-26-2007
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter) | 6:05 AM 3/27/2007 |
|
I don't want to know why you know what a torn up a**hole looks like, nor do I think anyone else does either. Did you do some time in prison or something? 
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
This is where the post-whores hang out!
|
NismoBgt
Offline
112 posts
1974 MBG GT with a CA18DET
San Antonio Texas
2-22-2006
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana) | 12:30 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
DaAMMM that is like putting the TOW back in'2 GehTOw
|
WDRacing
Porn Crusader
Offline
16864 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T | 1:56 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
Technically they're all adjustable because you can swap out the diaphrams. I would definitly apply some pressure via a brake bleeder kit or somthing and see how much the pressure goes up.With that setup and a 8:1 ish fmu you'll probably be able to run for ALONG time with no issues at all. Whats the internal WG set to on the T25? 7-8 psi IIRC...just enough to not need any timing retard. WD
|
redtop91
Meat Gazer
Offline
16404 posts
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Broken Arrow OK
9-7-2006
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing) | 2:03 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
It is supposed to be 7-8 but on the SR T25 it is more like 10. Ionno about the CA's.
|
ghx407
Offline
433 posts
1993 240SX KA-T
FL
11-24-2006
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (eazye2000) | 2:18 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
nkinThat's funny, my brother and I were just thinking about turbocharging my dad's '86 F-150 I-6 to see how long it'll hold. It just doesn't seem to die...
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing) | 2:40 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so.
|
Bwana
Super Moderator
Offline
6618 posts
'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004
|
| « Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Chezedik) | 2:45 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so. |
That's exactly what this one's like. I got the FMIC mounted today. If I end up with tomorrow off too, and my flanges and lines come in we'll be boostin' soon! I also scored a r33 crossmember for the rb swap, it was the one thing I was missing. $50 and local FTW!
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another?
|
Dieselman
Supporting Member
Offline
2651 posts
2000 Dodge 750+hp pulling truck 07 Ram 3500 Cummins Diesel.
Loveland CO
3-17-2005
|
| « Re: (Chezedik) | 6:47 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
ah yes.....the ghetto thread  This is gonna be a fun project......heck, it already is. Like Aaron said, the FMIC is in, need to get the battery mounted in the trunk, weld up them flanges and go to Home Depot for the PVC! I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure! I should go take a pic of the shop right now. 240 on the lift, the MG with the head off of it, and I'm building a set of twin turbos on a 98 dodge dually all at the same time....crazyness LOL
 What real power looks like Lowry Custom Motorsports
|
Bwana
Super Moderator
Offline
6618 posts
'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004
|
| « Re: (Chezedik) | 6:52 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Chezedik » | | Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another? |
The FMU I'm borrowing from a buddy, but I don't think he really has a use for it, so it may be for sale in a couple weeks, I can let you know. | Quote, originally posted by Dieselman » | | I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure! |
I have fears for the clutch too... 
|
redtop91
Meat Gazer
Offline
16404 posts
↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A Start
Broken Arrow OK
9-7-2006
|
| « Re: (Bwana) | 6:55 PM 3/27/2007 |
|
Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors?
|
Bwana
Super Moderator
Offline
6618 posts
'77 MGB CA18DET, Miata, 510
Vista CA
9-16-2004
|
| « Re: (redtop91) | 5:33 AM 3/28/2007 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by redtop91 » | | Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors? |
ADJUSTABLE FMU Reference entire thread above. 
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
Pirate BURN!
|
AZhitman
CEO
Online
49835 posts
03 G35C s/c, 93 S13 Vert KA-T, 09 Cube, 72 240Z RB25, 63 NL320, 67 WRL411, 67.5 SPL311, 05 Frontier
Phx, AZ
4-29-2002
|
This thread rocks.If this can be done for the budget you're talking, I'll put it on the homepage. Aaron, take lots of pics. 
Project G35 Coupe For SaleTEAM NICO: 137,000 Nissan enthusiasts strong.
NICOclub on Facebook AZhitman on MySpace Love it here? Add a link to NICOclub to your site! 
This site dedicated to the memory of Stacey Lynn Childs 1970-2007
|
sil80drifter
Offline
1309 posts
1990 240SX Hatch
Middle of CT CT
8-18-2002
|
| « Re: (AZhitman) | 5:43 PM 3/28/2007 |
|
Ahhh F it, I'll post whore too. AZHitman, you have the most flippin posts I've ever seen. Also, how many ppl run this kind of thing without an intercooler? sil80
|
Chezedik
...and then there were three.
Offline
4709 posts
1991 Nissan 240sx
Overland Park KS
12-17-2002
|
Porsche did it for a while.
|
hannibal
Offline
9023 posts
1990 Integra
Atlanta GA
9-11-2002
|
| « Re: (Chezedik) | 12:39 PM 3/29/2007 |
|
^^ Z31's didnt have IC's either.Kick *** Aaron!
|
| First 1 2 3 4 5 6 > Last |
