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Jookmasta

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i'm just thinking of all the risks involved with the remote mounting of a turbo...........them oil lines look like road debris targets...........and a twin turbo m5? sign me up pronto!
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So that thing really is turboed (first under car shots I've seen and there was a huge stink about it a while back).Friggin' schweet and probably isn't to laggy... it is a 500ish horsepower v10 stock ya know. It probably kicks you in the nuts... then proceeds to kick you in the nuts even harder once you start to get back up.
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| « Re: (Veriest1) | 10:07 AM 3/25/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Veriest1 » | | So that thing really is turboed (first under car shots I've seen and there was a huge stink about it a while back). Friggin' schweet and probably isn't to laggy... it is a 500ish horsepower v10 stock ya know. It probably kicks you in the nuts... then proceeds to kick you in the nuts even harder once you start to get back up. |
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Luke
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I wonder how much they had to lower engine compression in that M5. From what I've read, it was an F1 bred engine, most likely with high compression because it's NA.Anyway, STS looks like a bunch of greedy punks with their heads up their asses. That and it sounds like ls1tech is puts them on a pedestal as with any sponsor.
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USsil80
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| « Re: (Luke) | 7:03 PM 3/25/2007 |
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well they do own the patent but there is a lope hole... http://www.google.com/patents?...turboif you read it it said the turbo is hooked up to the engine oil system... use a remote oiling system... that is what i could see.. at first glance
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| « Re: (frapjap) | 2:36 AM 3/26/2007 |
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Scooby Doo! I want those badass patriot's checks though. Germany doesn't use checks I have a couple hundred sitting at home in America...
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Mine are blue. Printed checks are for FAGS JKLOLROFLBBQWTF
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| « Re: (C-Kwik) | 5:14 AM 3/26/2007 |
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I'm going to patent Brake Upgrades!!!Since it's a non-standard practice, I'll surely be awarded a patent for the idea of putting larger high performance non-oem brakes on a sports car. Now any of you fools who want to do a Z32 or Q45 etc.. upgrade will have to pay me a licensing free. I'm about to call Wilwood and Stoptech and tell them they need to cease and desist.. Hey.. frapjap.. just tell them that your not remote mounting the turbo... you're just using a really really long turbo manifold.
Or put some aluminum underneath your car and PATENT the idea of expanding your engine bay underneath and toward the rear of the car.. STS is going to go down in flames for this lunacy! Congrats Frapjap.. you are going to be famous.. (Just like other forum wildfire threads like the dude caught whacking off, the guy with the trannyporn on his desktop, and the nutswingers and Hennessey.)
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| « Re: (Eikon) | 7:33 AM 3/26/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Eikon » | Congrats Frapjap.. you are going to be famous.. (Just like other forum wildfire threads like the dude caught whacking off, the guy with the trannyporn on his desktop, and the nutswingers and Hennessey.) |
Link to said hilarity!
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somebody should patent different types of accidents and sue insurance companies...anybody wanna post this on HT?
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I'm gonna patent Front end conversions. and Rear end conversions. adding sunroofs, moon roofs, t-tops,No, wait, I should patent Giant wings, Neons, plywood/cardboard body kits/body effects and other ricey stuff. Who's with me? we'll be RICH!
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| « Re: (PantherRacer) | 11:43 AM 3/26/2007 |
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I think you should do the first one, usually the breed you speak about in the second description don't have alot of money. They have to save up for 3 months for the APC aluminum wing.
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Well. They deleted it on LS1tech.com eh..how about this..http://anti-rice.com/smf/index.php?topic=24956.0 And... http://www.clubgp.com/newforum...ode=1 Thump your chest on that, STS b*tches. EDIT: BTW, yes, I created just so I could do this
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| « Re: (Jesda) | 9:21 AM 4/8/2007 |
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So while STS is at it, they might as well sue Porsche for using externally out of the engine bay turbo systems, used on such cars as the 935 K3's and such, just like in this pic.... and yes that is out of the engine bay, even tho they are rear mounted engines, believe me, ive been around enough of those at vintage festivals, they sound like secks http://www.geocities.com/Motor...2.jpg and if the photo isnt coming up, just google porsche 935, and then go to images, youll find it.
Modified by Blacdout96 at 9:33 AM 4/8/2007
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| « Re: (Blacdout96) | 11:20 PM 5/3/2007 |
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^looks like a jet fighter on wheels. Prolly handles as good too.

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| « Re: (PantherRacer) | 8:41 PM 5/27/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by PantherRacer » | I'm gonna patent Front end conversions. and Rear end conversions. adding sunroofs, moon roofs, t-tops,No, wait, I should patent Giant wings, Neons, plywood/cardboard body kits/body effects and other ricey stuff. Who's with me? we'll be RICH! |
and im going to patent porn and sex. make trillions!
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I'm going to patent patents so all the patenters are going to have to pay me for their patents.
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| Quote, originally posted by NASCARLANCE » | | I'm going to patent patents so all the patenters are going to have to pay me for their patents. |
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hahahaha thats was good
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| « Re: (NASCARLANCE) | 8:38 PM 5/28/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by NASCARLANCE » | | I'm going to patent patents so all the patenters are going to have to pay me for their patents. |
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as a small on topic point...STS Turbos was founded in 2003 (according to their website but who believes the internet anyways) That Porsche might be a bit older, would that invalidate the patent? sorry to interrupt, resume pattenting pattents on pattenting pattents
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| « Re: (skylndrftr) | 10:27 PM 6/11/2007 |
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I just find this whole situation quite funny. They are just trying to bully someone into buying their product. Only way anyone would be prosecuted for patent violation is if they produced a system that was exactly (or very close to) theirs, and then marketed it as a completely new system. Otherwise, they have no leg to stand on. So, they sit here and 'threaten' base level consumers with legal action as to try to scare people into buying their system, or not doing anything. It is quite simple to be making something similar to someone else's setup, and actually make it better in the process. So, they don't want to risk someone enhancing their idea. Besides, they aren't the first people to think or come up with this. I was reading a magazine in 2001 (I know the year, because I was in AIT) that spoke of remote mount turbos....If STS wasn't created until 2003, then they are a little behind. Sure they might have been the first company to patent the idea, but unless you are putting a patent on a completely new invention, then its just pointless. Putting a patent on a completely new style of ignition module - acceptable. Putting a patent on a different way to mount a turbo - unacceptable and ignorant.
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Only legal standpoint they have is if someone starts selling kits.. But if they haven't done that to a vehicle can they still? So if I make a kit for the 240....
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| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » | | Only legal standpoint they have is if someone starts selling kits.. But if they haven't done that to a vehicle can they still? So if I make a kit for the 240.... |
Basically, if someone starts manufacturing a system using 90% or more of the same components, and doing it exactly how they do their system, and selling it as their own original idea, then they would be in violation of patent infringement. You could make a system out of the same materials that you purchased from a different source, put it on your vehicle, and drive around in front of the courthouse and STS's company building, and they can't do **** to you. Now, another company can come along and change their setup significantly, so by looking at it, it is a different setup (moving the turbo up or down, other side of the car, etc) and it still isn't illegal. However, with them threatening a consumer, that is just stupid, since they have no leg to stand on. Oh, I know that because I have a good friend who is an attorney, and I asked him about it out of curiosity.
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Talk about back from the dead. It says Rex was the last to post...wheres the response?
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In my bum?
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| Quote, originally posted by r34 gtr » | | In my bum? |
Probably not. But I heard you had one of these:
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Probably.
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Holy Sh*t! Funny As Hell!
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| « Re: (Dittoz7) | 9:57 AM 4/15/2008 |
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Did someone delete his post?I bet he was spewing BS.
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| « Re: (FlatBlackIan) | 9:03 PM 9/8/2008 |
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no offense to any one who likes this idea. (and i am speaking out of complete ignorance) but isnt that a bad idea to put the turbo way in the back unless u really have to?

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| « Re: (brizanden) | 9:06 PM 9/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by brizanden » | | no offense to any one who likes this idea. (and i am speaking out of complete ignorance) but isnt that a bad idea to put the turbo way in the back unless u really have to? |
It has its pros and cons like anything else. Think about it, with 8 feet of charge piping, do you really need an intercooler? Sure you dont get the greatest throttle response, but hey, its a V8 who cares.
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This was good. Too bad they didn't pursue it and make giant azzes of themselves.
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| « Re: (dusred) | 9:59 PM 9/8/2008 |
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I'm pretty sad I didn't see this thread while it was in the making...completely AWESOME!!!!

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| « Re: (FlatBlackIan) | 10:11 PM 9/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by FlatBlackIan » | It has its pros and cons like anything else. Think about it, with 8 feet of charge piping, do you really need an intercooler? Sure you dont get the greatest throttle response, but hey, its a V8 who cares. |
well i would....
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