STS Turbos Claims Patent Infringement, Hilarity Ensues.

[Veriest1]

so the point is to take the turbo and move it under the car, as in further down the exhaust system? is there a gain in doing this over a normal mount position? the only thing iv heard of befor on the hole thing is dentsport puting the turbo on there s13 infront of the motor a bit.

and i laughed hard when he said they deleted that thread.

Yeah, they replace the rear muffler with it. It's easier to mount in the sense of not having to mess with a turbo manifold and they claim the large charge piping has an intercooler effect and a bunch of other stuff that's probably on their website.

The major issue is water+hot exhuast housing and I think it takes a bit longer to spool.

[PoorManQ45]

Chano is right - This definitely means patent reform is needed.

How does this happen?

[themadscientist]

Sorry everybody; I patented the internet. Everybody out except for hot chicks; you can stay but I must insist you gets nekkid.

[redtop91]

I'm not a chick but I'm pretty hot. Do you want pics?

[themadscientist]

no more mapelthorpes you sick bastard. I still have nightmares.

[redtop91]

Oh God. Google that for pics. At work. I lose.

[themadscientist]

dumbass

[NIGHTfall_240sx]

Oh God. Google that for pics. At work. I lose.

mannnn... something told me when i seen that word. "don't google image it" then i read your responce.. which SHOULD have been a second warning.. to not google image it.

...yeh.. i regret it now

[redtop91]

^ LOL TMS FTL.

[Luke]

Here is my new email from them:I’d be glad to send you some information. The patent information is located on our website - http://www.ststurbo.com/patent - and it does cover the location as it is ‘turbo system and method of installation’. There have been some violators out there and we have shut a lot of them down and are continuing to enforce our patent and IP. Most people don’t understand the extent of coverage and protection that a patent provides. Our patents are very extensive and cover just about everything concerned with remote mounting a turbocharger. Greddy doesn’t have the patent on a front mount turbo system as that is the conventional way of doing it and you can’t patent something that everyone is already doing. So you are free to build your own front mount turbo system and nobody would care. STS pioneered this technology years ago and consequently was awarded patents for it. We are pretty easy to work with and have programs set up to help people do exactly what you are trying to figure out.

Best Regards,Rick Squires

Squires Turbo Systems, Inc

165 N. 1330 W. Suite A-4

Orem, Utah 84057

Phone: 866-WE TURBO

Fax: (801) 607-6846

http://www.STSTurbo.com

Am I the only one noticing them contradicting themselves?

[Luke]

no more mapelthorpes you sick bastard. I still have nightmares.

Yeah... I'm at work, too. I had to work to get the correct spelling and all.

[Luke]

God, that really killed his thread didn't it madscientist?

[otterman]

Is it too late to get a patent for SR motor swaps into the 240sx? Cause I'd like to get that.

[rexhunta]

tell them to get ****ed from me too.

[otterman]

[redtop91]

Mmmmmm. Lag.

[rexhunta]

Mmmmmm. Lag.

EngineType: Twin-turbo V10Displacement cu in (cc): 301 (4941)Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 810(604) / n.a.Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 733(994) / n.a.Redline at RPM: n.a.Brakes & TiresBrakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented discTires F-R: R20Driveline: Rear Wheel DriveExterior Dimensions & WeightLength × Width × Height in: 191.1 × 72.7 × 74.3Weight lb (kg): 4033 (1830)PerformanceAcceleration 0-60 mph s: 3.6Top Speed mph (km/h): 240 (386)

i'll put with up some lag for 810HP.
Modified by rexhunta at 7:50 AM 3/25/2007

[otterman]

EngineType: Twin-turbo V10Displacement cu in (cc): 301 (4941)Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 810(604) / n.a.Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 733(994) / n.a.Redline at RPM: n.a.Brakes & TiresBrakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/vented discTires F-R: R20Driveline: Rear Wheel DriveExterior Dimensions & WeightLength × Width × Height in: 191.1 × 72.7 × 74.3Weight lb (kg): 4033 (1830)PerformanceAcceleration 0-60 mph s: 3.6Top Speed mph (km/h): 240 (386)

i'll put with up some lag for 810KW.

weeeeaak lol

[AZhitman]

WOOOOO!!!!

Pete, I'd give ANYTHING to have you drive that out to STS's shop and do a big fat smoky donut in their parking lot.

[brisknfade]

Jeez, that thing looks vicious!

[Jookmasta]

i'm just thinking of all the risks involved with the remote mounting of a turbo...........them oil lines look like road debris targets...........and a twin turbo m5? sign me up pronto!

[Veriest1]

So that thing really is turboed (first under car shots I've seen and there was a huge stink about it a while back).

Friggin' schweet and probably isn't to laggy... it is a 500ish horsepower v10 stock ya know. It probably kicks you in the nuts... then proceeds to kick you in the nuts even harder once you start to get back up.

[Maverick7687]

So that thing really is turboed (first under car shots I've seen and there was a huge stink about it a while back).

Friggin' schweet and probably isn't to laggy... it is a 500ish horsepower v10 stock ya know. It probably kicks you in the nuts... then proceeds to kick you in the nuts even harder once you start to get back up.

I'll take 2!

[Luke]

I wonder how much they had to lower engine compression in that M5. From what I've read, it was an F1 bred engine, most likely with high compression because it's NA.

Anyway, STS looks like a bunch of greedy punks with their heads up their asses. That and it sounds like ls1tech is puts them on a pedestal as with any sponsor.

[USsil80]

well they do own the patent but there is a lope hole... http://www.google.com/patents?...turbo

if you read it it said the turbo is hooked up to the engine oil system... use a remote oiling system... that is what i could see.. at first glance

[frapjap]

Damn, no more emails. I can't entertain you guys anymore.

Lets talk about checks. What kind of graphics are in your bakground of your checks?

(post 'em up if you want, but NOT your account number!!)

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Scooby Doo!I want those badass patriot's checks though. Germany doesn't use checks I have a couple hundred sitting at home in America...

[iwantans13]

Mine are blue. Printed checks are for f***

JKLOLROFLBBQWTF

[Eikon]

I'm going to patent Brake Upgrades!!!

Since it's a non-standard practice, I'll surely be awarded a patent for the idea of putting larger high performance non-oem brakes on a sports car. Now any of you fools who want to do a Z32 or Q45 etc.. upgrade will have to pay me a licensing free. I'm about to call Wilwood and Stoptech and tell them they need to cease and desist..

Hey.. frapjap.. just tell them that your not remote mounting the turbo... you're just using a really really long turbo manifold.

Or put some aluminum underneath your car and PATENT the idea of expanding your engine bay underneath and toward the rear of the car..

STS is going to go down in flames for this lunacy!

Congrats Frapjap.. you are going to be famous.. (Just like other forum wildfire threads like the dude caught whacking off, the guy with the trannyporn on his desktop, and the nutswingers and Hennessey.)

[redtop91]

Congrats Frapjap.. you are going to be famous.. (Just like other forum wildfire threads like the dude caught whacking off, the guy with the trannyporn on his desktop, and the nutswingers and Hennessey.)

Link to said hilarity!