Project s14 RB26dett

Discuss the RB20, RB25 and RB26 series engines.
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Hi, I'm new to nissan, 240sx and rb of corius.I just got my rb today, It didn't come with MAF's, as I understand I can use Q45/z32 MAFs. But If Im going to need to make the investment of 450+ I should just get Apexi Power FC? Anyone using a Power FC with basicly stock setup? My crank pullie is cracked where could order a new one? Does anyone know how to tell what year motor I have? I mean I know its from a R32 but I was wondering if I could tell what year out of 89-94?Is their a block code? [IMG][/IMG]


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Oh and btw, what do I do with the stock GT-R AWD transmission?

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Evo_bill wrote:Oh and btw, what do I do with the stock GT-R AWD transmission?
Scrap it.

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sup sup, If you plan to keep the twin turbo setup then yeah you'll spend an arm and leg for 2 bov, 2 MAF/AFM, 2 intake air filters, custom turbo manifold, 2 turbos!!! but if you have money like that I'll go with the Q45 MAF, it's 90mm compare to the RB/Z32 MAF which is 80mm, the Q45 MAF can handle I think 600+hp and z32 is 500+hp, as for the AWD transmission, Full-Race is releasing an awd kit, yes arm and leg later this year, but if you can't wait that long then you can buy an RB25 transmission and hook that up to the RB26 engine, if you plan for 450hp then yeah I'll go with an aftermarket ECU (Power FC), as for crank pulley try enjukuracing.com or phase2motortrend.com or Ebay, good luck!!!

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I have a apexi power fc with comander for sale for that engine 450 shipped to your door.

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you look like you're missing a lot of stuff there... mafs, twin turbo pipe, intake pipes, ps? miscellaneous vacuum lines? if your crank pulley is cracked the motor might've been in a wreck.. looks like a boost controller was run on that too. anyway, let me know if you need some help with some parts. i've got some spares that will make that motor closer to complete... contact info in profile.

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I'm a little light on cash ATMbut I'll try and hit you up when I got some.

Yes, I'm keeping the stock turbo setup, Only looking for 450-500rwhpShould I go Power FC or Q45 MAF stock ecu?


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the pully looks as if it was rusted and somewhere from pulling the motor to shipping it got chiped away. its only on the edge.

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Evo_bill wrote:I'm a little light on cash ATMbut I'll try and hit you up when I got some.

Yes, I'm keeping the stock turbo setup, Only looking for 450-500rwhpShould I go Power FC or Q45 MAF stock ecu?
450-500rwhp = not happening stock turbo setup unless you have some nitrous

q45 maf with stock ecu doesnt work. you need something to compensate for it.. like safc at least. also you need 2 of them

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I will take what ever I can get with stock turbo setup for now.I'm trying to judge tho, Do I get MAF's or Power FC?

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Get the MAFs Power FC will come later down the line. Scrap that AWD transmission next up you need to buy a RB25 transmission and Modified Oil Pan for the RB26.

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Evo_bill wrote:I'm trying to judge tho, Do I get MAF's or Power FC?
You cannot slap on any MAF you want and run it with the stock ECU. The stock ECU works with the stock MAFs. If you get different MAFs (whether its dual q45 or dual z32) you need something to control them. So if you get MAFs, you will need to get the power fc as well. Or you can save money by using an apexi safc to control the MAFs.

Please read the replies to your thread. Gawdzilla just posted this info.
gawdzilla wrote:q45 maf with stock ecu doesnt work. you need something to compensate for it.. like safc at least. also you need 2 of them

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What year transmission is it? I might have a use for it. Give me some details.

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Evo_bill wrote:I'm a little light on cash ATMbut I'll try and hit you up when I got some.
not to sound like a d!ck. but all you have is an incomplete RB26, you're asking what you do with the AWD trans, and now you're a little light on cash... call me a downer, but you obviously have no idea what you've gotten yourself into, do you?

stick with the evo man. ive learned that the RB community has more patience than any other car niche on the intraweb. ive been trying to get my RB25 into my car and running for about a year and a half now. my initial budget was $10,000, including the price of the car. now im over $20k, and the **** still doesnt run yet. for those that complete 26 swaps, they get from me. but seriously man, before you start lighting your cigars with $100 bills, do ALOT of reading. sometimes i wish i bought an SRT-4 instead. just the thought of a running, brand new car, paid off sounds freaking awesome to me right now. anyhow, best of luck.

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Ok well instead of going through Q&A go to:zerothread/135400

Not to be a d!ck either but you are a RB/Nissan N00b, so this thread is best suited for what you are trying to accomplish. Shows what is nessecery to complete a Rb26-240SX swap.

Just wanted get that I cause I fell a big cold LOCK! Coming...

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that is teh saddest rb26 ive ever seen, im willing to bet it has dead ringlands or a spun bearing...its proly been sitting in a junkyard for a while now.and looking at the ecu and the other bits on the motor that looks like it came out of an r32.

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LOL, I've been on here and other forums for months reading, I realize I can't use just MAF's with stock ecu, maybe I didn't ask the question clearly enough, If I'm paying 250-500 bucks for MAF's and then another 300-800 for a piggy back or apeix safs,

Wouldn't it be wiser just to get Power FC and pay for tunning?

btw, I know what I'm getting myself into, I just don't have alot of frist hand experience with this stuff. I have all the time in the world to learn.

and also, I have a lot of questions about alot of things that this searching tool can not help me out with, I think this search tool on this site is one of the worst I've ever seen. not to knock on the site it's self or the owners.

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i agree with carl, that motor looks to be in really rough shape. maybe its jsut the victim of a long time of sitting. but either way, before you got the motor you should have gotten a leakdown test to verify the condition of the motor, also, who would sell the motor with the trans but not the mafs or turbo outlet pipe (the awsome twin turbo pipe) that seems odd to me. that should come with it. imho, any reputable company would sell a motor set as something that can start and run as it is shipped, unless it is stated otherwise. in that case, i hope you got a great deal on it, cause i feel you are in for a lot of repair/replace costs soon. best of luck, and get to know some shops that have done the swap a few times, im sure theyll be invaluable to you doing the work. or save a lot and have someone do the swap for you. best of luck again.

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all i have to say is good luck cuz from the pics it looks like you have a handful.. if i was u i would of went wit rb20 or 25 first but hey u must got the money for the 26 its alof of work.. though once again good luck

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lucky7 wrote:ive been trying to get my RB25 into my car and running for about a year and a half now. my initial budget was $10,000, including the price of the car. now im over $20k, and the **** still doesnt run yet.
that sucks; i bought my car running from xat for 8000 im probly into it for 2000 more and srt-4's are effing gay bro have you seen the engine in one of those crap wagons it looks like a toy, lol. any way yeah man those guys are right you probly got effed on that engine your gonna have to dump at least 5000 in to that thing to get it in and running properly, im not doubting that you could do it im just saying its gonna be aloooot of work and you said yuor tight on cash right ow so good luck thats a really exspensive lawn ornament you got there.

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wow. how is it that one motor looks like a toy and another doesnt? please clarify. dont bash on an srt. im sorry the little neons beat up on you. but like the list said (im sure most of you read the douchebag list) the srt-4 is number one. that makes me the number one doughebag i guess. right? thats just a dumb post. although my srt is faster than my rb s14, (thats a little disappointing) at least it starts and drives everyday.(my srt) hmmm. not something that most people here can claim. again, to the op, best of luck. you should download the fsm's and read through all of them, make a list of what you are missing and collect the parts. then start the swap.

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well well well, I finished leakdown test number 2.tested all withthen the 20% range. cyl1. 19%cyl2. 2%cyl3. 15%cyl4. 2%cyl5. 8%cyl6. 2%

the first test was listen for leak. I'm going to be doing a couple of compression test over the next couple of days.

I talked with a friend (really good tuner made 550rwhp on stock s2000) and I've decided to go with emanage Ultimate and a map sensor. so no more need to MAF.

btw, I got the motor and transmission from Oaska for 3200 shipped. because I'm a d!ck I'm going to call them up and make them get me mafs and TT pipe

Transmission is from r32- no sure what year.

Is their anyway to convert the transmission in to rear wheel drive only, without clearence issues?i.e. plamsa cut and then sealed?

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converting the trans to rwd?? not that i'm aware of. do yourself a favor, while your on the phone with the guys at Oaska, tell them you want to trade your GTR trans for a RB25 trans. just tell them they sent you the wrong trans. make it sound like they were the ones that EFFed up.

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oh, one quick question. cause im really curious, why you ditching the evo?? everyone i know gets a gynormouse hard on when they see one. frankly im tired to death of them, but whatever. aparently they are gods gift to the world. are they really 'spectacular' like i am to believe. again, why you getting rid of it?

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LOL does this
lucky7 wrote:converting the trans to rwd?? not that i'm aware of. do yourself a favor, while your on the phone with the guys at Oaska, tell them you want to trade your GTR trans for a RB25 trans. just tell them they sent you the wrong trans. make it sound like they were the ones that EFFed up.
really worker?I've had conversations with the owner/family member of the business, jon face to face. he's a pretty stright guy, good. I wonder if I call them up and say that what they would say... lol?
Modified by Evo_bill at 7:49 PM 10/24/2006

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i for one, dont understand a WORD of your post. lol

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Keep the EVO buy a boost controller.... BAM!!! RB killer!!!(some)but foreal, i'm at 25k, engine/parts/s14 to get where i'm at 400~500hp, and this is a RB25, now imagine with the RB26... yeah double that (mainly MAF,bov,pipework,Turbos etc.,) but If you want to go single turbo that will save you some $$$, but WTH would do that to an RB26. and I see you said your light on cash, RB26 and light on $$$ don't mix, hmmm... not unless you do everything yourself. well good luck

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send me your transmission i'll know how to take care of it.

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wow that motor really has been raped they took the coils and ignitor. thing is better off as a boat anchor.

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I'd say screw it come up with 12-15K and have Full Race build you a R14. AWD RB26 in a 240SX!


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