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glendale Arizona
3-6-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 7:50 PM 3/6/2006 |
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So, will the sr pass a onboard diagnostic test?
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Onizuka
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91 coupe w/s13 SR20DET 89 hatch w/s14 SR20DE
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11-6-2002
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Absolutly not, but that only concerns people with cars manufactured 96 and newer. That can also be gotten around (especially if your not in california), if you can find the right people to go to.I have a "friend" who found someone to stick a stock oldsmobile on the sniffer machine in place of his black sr-powered s13 coupe at no extra cost. You just have to find someone that has an equal love of all things automotive 
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modified
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glendale Arizona
3-6-2006
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| « Re: (Onizuka) | 9:25 PM 3/6/2006 |
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That why i ask, its 98. Any way to have the motor cleared for street use, from DOT, EPA?
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s13_drftone
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S13 with sr20det swap
Chico CA
3-12-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 11:51 PM 3/12/2006 |
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no you just got to pay the price of $200
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jjh
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central nj
5-14-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (hazw8st) | 5:22 PM 5/14/2006 |
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nice for locking the thread, i was wondering in nj has smog testing.
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drifter_for_life06
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1992 240sx fastback
York PA
7-5-2003
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for the guys in PA..if i get a hi-flow cat on my 92 S13, i should be good right?i got an emissions exempt sticker in March, but that was b/c i had less than 5k miles on the odo. since the last inspection.
1992 RPS13 (Sandstone Beige Metallic) PILOT M-Sports Rear Strut Tower Bar.PILOT M-Sports Front Strut Tower Bar.Blacktop S13 SR20DET.10-12psi.HKS Actuator.RS*R downpipe.BRM Testpipe.GP Sports EXAS Spec-D 3" pipe(no muffler).AEM filter element.Rigid Racing Cooling Panel.Z32 fuel filter.Walbro 255lph.Apexi Turbo Timer.Tanabe Sustec Under Brace.ST Sway Bars.S-AFCII.
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hazw8st
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ROSARITO
9-6-2005
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (s13_drftone) | 7:28 PM 5/15/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by s13_drftone » | | no you just got to pay the price of $200 |
Try again, back door smog for an SR20DET for 2 bills..... we're in 2006, these smog techs are asking $400 bucks here in SoCal..... 
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nistangclan727
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03 maxima
Ravenna Ohio
5-20-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 2:37 AM 5/28/2006 |
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would an sr pass in oh
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XFD
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240SX/SilEighty style
Portland OR
5-4-2006
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Is there a site that lists all the smog states and what forms of testing they do? Googling for "Smog States" and variants returns rather irrelevent results. (I'm in Oregon)
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drifter_for_life06
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1992 240sx fastback
York PA
7-5-2003
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i was able to go to state.pa.us (obviously not the same link if you dont live in PA) and found somewhere on there what tests they run on certain year vehiclesjust plug in your info and BAM,there ya go
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nistangclan727
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03 maxima
Ravenna Ohio
5-20-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 2:22 PM 6/7/2006 |
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what states would a stok sr pass
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hazw8st
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ROSARITO
9-6-2005
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| « Re: (modified) | 5:41 PM 6/12/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by modified » | | That why i ask, its 98. Any way to have the motor cleared for street use, from DOT, EPA? |
I did some extensive research, and the answer is "no", DOT and EPA won't allow it. If your state doesn't perform smog inspections, nobody has to know what engine you have. What they don't know, can't hurt them...
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Barstow Ca
7-8-2006
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ok im new to "THIS" site but im kinda lost on what exactly hazw8st does i had a few questions first do u own ur own shop and what exactly do u hve to do thres so much chemicals and other stuff lsted in different orders im lost but what exactly do u do is it a liquid or something or messing with ecu please try to make it clear and in order im not the sharpest knife in the drawer
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silninty
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1990 180SX
Tucson AZ
3-26-2006
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I have a SR20DET in AZ and have gotten a slap on the hand here when I brought it to get tested. There are two types of "cop" type people, the ones who only care about the law...(which means they know nothing about cars), and the ones who love cars so an SR20DET would normally make these guys smile. The problem that I have lies in the air recurculation system. It is illegal to take it off of any engine to drive on the street, yet if your going to "fool" your local emissions testing facility your going to need a working air recirculation system on your SR20det 240sx. To make this work, you need to create a new steel pipe no less than 18" that goes around your steering column. No prob there, now you have to block your stock hole on your downpipe, no prob there and create a new hole on the side for your modified ARS tube. It works on my car but it looks horible. I guess next car I'll take my time more, I like a car that is modified to look like it's supposed to be that way. I don't know of a single company that makes a USDM swaped SR20DET downpipe with a relocated ARS tube hole. End result the car passed emissions better than any american car I have ever seen, I never played with timing or anything else, it was stock but passed with flying colors even though it had a racing cat and 3" exhaust all the way down.
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hazw8st
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9-6-2005
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| « Re: (safxtacy) | 8:11 PM 7/9/2006 |
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Try email next time....... 
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Neil
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shooting laser guns
Newtown, CT
4-21-2004
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| « Re: (hazw8st) | 5:47 PM 7/17/2006 |
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Just passed emissions today:Stock S13 SR Blacktop
o.e. SMIC w/ Koyo
3" Catco cat
New 300z O2
Vented crank case / vc
~85°+ ambient temperature HC: 90ppm out of allowed 150
CO2: .39% of .8% allowed
NOx: 1734 out of 1750 allowed (no egr) no problem with visual in spection, the motor says 'nissan' on it. if anyone asks tell them its a special edition 240.
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FAST-DATSUN
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Murrieta ca.
10-22-2002
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what about the VISUAL part of the test and the fact that the engines (sr and RB) do not show up on the approved swap list???????//
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Neil
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Newtown, CT
4-21-2004
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| « Re: (FAST-DATSUN) | 5:39 PM 7/29/2006 |
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If they really have an "approved swap list" at your emissions center, I'll be surprised. Don't say anything. The motor says Nissan on it, noone is likely to notice anything strange except for a couple shiny chargepipes... if they ask just tell them it was a rare 'special edition'
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hazw8st
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9-6-2005
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (nistangclan727) | 12:46 PM 7/31/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by nistangclan727 » | | would an sr pass in oh |
| Quote, originally posted by jjh » | | nice for locking the thread, i was wondering in nj has smog testing. |
| Quote, originally posted by hazw8st » | | Try again, back door smog for an SR20DET for 2 bills..... we're in 2006, these smog techs are asking $400 bucks here in SoCal..... |
| Quote, originally posted by FAST-DATSUN » | | what about the VISUAL part of the test and the fact that the engines (sr and RB) do not show up on the approved swap list? |
Visual isn't an issue anymore, there are loopholes that bypass visual as long as the diagnostics and functional are within the emissions mandates.
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Thebigjc
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1990 240sx/sr20det
seattle wa
8-23-2006
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What about Washington, anyone tried here yet?
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Thebigjc
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1990 240sx/sr20det
seattle wa
8-23-2006
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| « Re: (Thebigjc) | 4:43 PM 8/30/2006 |
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Also any issues running the denatured Alch. fo a short period of time in an sr20det?
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hazw8st
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9-6-2005
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| « Re: (Thebigjc) | 7:34 PM 9/15/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Thebigjc » | | Also any issues running the denatured Alch. fo a short period of time in an sr20det? |
Running on denatured is not turnkey, you would have to tune the vehicle on denatured, then pretest it before the actual emisiions test.
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domofun
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94 nissan 240sx convertable
moorpark ca
8-27-2006
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (hazw8st) | 12:57 PM 10/9/2006 |
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hey where in so cal can i do this i need to smog mine thanks
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FusionR300zx
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1993 300zx/1997 240sx
Des Plaines IL
7-11-2006
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hmmm... how about this... chicagoo...
98 (OBDII) with a OBDI redtop...?what should i do?
courtesy Dirty Dee
http://www.chicagoarea240sx.editboard.com
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Shaefer Thomas
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1992 240sx
Sterling Heights MI
3-31-2004
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| « Re: (FusionR300zx) | 7:53 PM 12/5/2006 |
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I have a 240 that I bought in Texas, swapped an SR into it and moved back to Michigan. Michigan has absolutely NO laws whatsoever regarding smog or anything even related to it. I want to keep the car registered in MI because I am about to go to school in Washington. Im pretty scared about all this smog BS, and I REALLY dont want to get rid of my car after all the hard work I put into it.... Anyone have any advice on Washington's smog tests? I hear you have to go to an official testing center so there is a slim chance you will find a "friendly" person there.... Just need a little insight into this.. I Know Washington has a couple 240 guys with SR swaps, cuz Ive seen them around. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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TchouikoS13
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92 240sx HB + 06 Porsche Boxster S(vert)
San Jose Ca
1-9-2007
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| « Re: (skygame) | 12:28 PM 1/14/2007 |
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If you use propane, wouldn't your car be registered as a propane car????
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180fan
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12-14-2002
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not to mention when they revert your car back to use gasoline, you get pulled over you'll still end up going to the ref anyway since the officer won't be able to verify if it's propane or not. From what I've seen, if there's any doubt, you're going to the ref.
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San Jose Ca
1-9-2007
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| « Re: (180fan) | 10:23 PM 2/13/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 180fan » | | not to mention when they revert your car back to use gasoline, you get pulled over you'll still end up going to the ref anyway since the officer won't be able to verify if it's propane or not. From what I've seen, if there's any doubt, you're going to the ref. |
Kinda screwed there... Rather pay like 200 bucks for a hookup than a 400 dollar convention
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Happytoys
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90 240 sx, 88 civic hatch
sac ca
2-23-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 1:06 PM 2/23/2007 |
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Can anyone tell me where/how to find requierments/laws regarding swaps and smog for California? Specifically Sacramento. Also, u think it would be best/possible to keep my car titled in oregon but still be in cali
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dsportsx
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1996 240sx se
West Haven connecticut
3-6-2007
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I live in ct and Dmv has cameras in all of the emission centers and so is there a way to make this engine legal, now that big brother is even in the garages?
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wa-chiss
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S13/Xterra
Stephenville Tx
2-21-2006
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| « Re: (Shaefer Thomas) | 8:56 PM 3/17/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Shaefer Thomas » | | I have a 240 that I bought in Texas, swapped an SR into it and moved back to Michigan. Michigan has absolutely NO laws whatsoever regarding smog or anything even related to it. I want to keep the car registered in MI because I am about to go to school in Washington. Im pretty scared about all this smog BS, and I REALLY dont want to get rid of my car after all the hard work I put into it.... Anyone have any advice on Washington's smog tests? I hear you have to go to an official testing center so there is a slim chance you will find a "friendly" person there.... Just need a little insight into this.. I Know Washington has a couple 240 guys with SR swaps, cuz Ive seen them around. Any help would be greatly appreciated. |
There are certain places that dont do emissions like, here in Stanwood. I don't have to worry about it. You could just get a P.O. Box in a non-emission town and register your car there.
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bball212000
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95 s14
alabamie AL
8-4-2006
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i live in alabama (the land of open exhaust manifolds) what is this emissions and smog testing that you all speak of
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Tubbert
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1990 240sx SE
Peoria Az
5-17-2007
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| « Re: (silninty) | 11:08 PM 5/17/2007 |
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i'm goin to be in the same boat you are...any advice?... i heard up north they dont have emissions testing
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xXtouge_beastXx
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SR powered 240sx
Pomona CA
5-20-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 9:59 PM 5/20/2007 |
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what about straight through piping?
will that help me pass the smog?
hahahaha jK
seriously tho
if i have straight piping on my car
but i "pass" smog
can a cop still get me for it?
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s13rb28
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1990 nissan 240sx hatch
Springfield MA
5-20-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (xXtouge_beastXx) | 6:42 PM 5/22/2007 |
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anyone in massachusetts try to get passed for emmissions? sniffer test here.
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Rus240sx
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1992 240sx fb
MD
5-20-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Nismo_Freak) | 9:13 AM 6/5/2007 |
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Has anybody tried to pass emission test in Maryland, any help would be appreciated.
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Encryptshun
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2005 Xterra
Streamwood Illistnois
6-4-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Rus240sx) | 1:44 PM 6/6/2007 |
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I can't speak for other states, but here in Illinois they have a new law on the books as of 2005 that states:"Recent changes to the Vehicle Emissions Inspection Law of 2005 provide that vehicles of model year 1995 and older that are in compliance with the law as of February 1, 2007, will no longer be subject to emissions testing." The trick is making sure your car was compliant as of 2/1/07. Check here http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/ for more information, IL residents...
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CMG
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1989 240sx Hatch w/ Redtop
SD CA
1-16-2007
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (Encryptshun) | 7:57 PM 7/21/2007 |
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Cali. is the worst when it comes to smog. A good running SR with all the smog equipment removed and just a cat can pass the emissions test no problem...you just need to go to the right place to do it.
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bhavedikian
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1997 240sx
Chicago IL
4-29-2004
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| « Re: SMOG Legal (CMG) | 8:10 PM 7/25/2007 |
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If the PO Box thing doesn't work for me then is there some way to wire in a KA ECU so as to piggy back it so it receives signals and then hook it directly up to the diagnostic port? I have a '97 with a redtop and wonder how this all is going to work now that I have her running well. I'm from Ohio so this was news to me when I received the letter in the mail. I have to test it via computer to computer and that's it since it's newer than '95 as stated above in the dirty state of IL. I wish there was a way to do this since I have desire to torch the ozone, I just want the motor in the 240sx that should've been there in the first place if the high up people at Nissan at the time weren't smoking opium laced crack!
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