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Post Title: Project el cheapo KA-T
Posted by: Bwana at 4:24 PM 3/25/2007

To preface this chronicle, I'd like to clear up the reason of why.

Answer: I recently scored a smoking deal on a complete RB25 swap.

Mmmkay. With that out of the way, on to the project itself.

Project vehicle: My bone stock '89 SOHC coupe. with 248,xxx mi on it.

The plan: Turbo the KA using mostly random parts I have laying around and spend less than $200 doing it. Hopefully have it run for a week or so .

The initial progress:



A buddy of mine had a spare KAe exhaust manifold laying around, so this is what we've done to it. It's not finished only because I decided to order a set of T2 flanges off eghey instead of making my own. As soon as the flanges come in I'll put everything together and tig it properly.

The unlikely hero of the story:

Yes, that's a stock CA t25. About the smallest turbo evar . Oh well, it's what I have. Unless one of my local buddies decides to donate a spare t28 he has laying around...

I have the oil lines on order, a 8:1 FMU borrowed, a walbro on the way, and a couple other random parts to gather up. I'll be borrowing an old sidemount i/c from another buddy and using pvc pipe (save time and $$$) for the intercooler piping.






Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)
Posted by: eds13 at 4:49 PM 3/25/2007



um... thats some serious ghetto riggin. have fun



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Posted by: Florida240sx at 5:02 PM 3/25/2007

must have vid



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Posted by: WDRacing at 9:24 PM 3/25/2007

Great project man. I LOVE a serious DIY setup, and yours is basically the epitome of DIY. The CA is tiny, but for low boost it will be a fun daily driver. Probably get you close to 200WHP for extremely cheap. Do keep us posted.

WD



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Posted by: TheOne at 11:43 PM 3/25/2007



i wish i had turbos and parts layin around:(, all i have is a block & crank & 2 messed up cylinder heads,lol.

sounds like a nice build up though, for the price!



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 8:26 AM 3/26/2007



That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole.
But 200whp! probably worth trying =]

sil80



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Posted by: boznuttz at 8:50 AM 3/26/2007



Lol! Keep us upadated!



Post Title: Re: (boznuttz)
Posted by: redtop91 at 8:53 AM 3/26/2007

This thread is like watching a fight. Someone should stop it but it is too damn entertaining.



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: S13FX at 9:03 AM 3/26/2007

No way man I think this project is fwakin awesome. People spend so much effort to get 200rwhp NA, and here he will get it under 500 dollars, small turbo so no lag. This car will be fwakin awesome daily driver. And best of all the parts his using are really cheap to get too.

Keep us posted homey.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 1:55 PM 3/26/2007



You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger.

I am excited to see this old girl. I would use a smaller FMU if you can help it though. 8:1 may be a bit much for a t25. Although, I understand the point is affordability. You probably could skip the intercooler altogether with an 8:1 FMU.

Good luck - you must post video!



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 3:03 PM 3/26/2007



Quote, originally posted by sil80drifter »
That poor SOHC manifold looks frikkin raped and mutated. Kind of like a torn up a**hole.

sil80

I'm gonna second that thought. But it can't be as bad as my Ford 4.9 I-6 with a T4 Blow Through Carburated setup i botched back in the day. I'll have to dig up pics..

This thread is gonna be teh sechs!!




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Posted by: Edub1 at 3:42 PM 3/26/2007



PVC pipe will melt.



Post Title: Re: (Edub1)
Posted by: redtop91 at 3:47 PM 3/26/2007

What if is not directly connected to the turbo?



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Edub1 at 3:51 PM 3/26/2007

PVC might work after an intercooler but not before. Your compressed air will be far too hot and it will melt straight away.



Post Title: Re: (Edub1)
Posted by: WDRacing at 3:56 PM 3/26/2007

Aslong as it's not directly attached it will be fine on both sides of the IC. I suggest either long silicone hose or use a jbend for the initial output from the compressor. I've done it before, it works, ugly but effective.

WD



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Posted by: Florida240sx at 3:56 PM 3/26/2007



Get a length of highstrength hose. Think the one we got is for sewer lines. Very thick walls. Has a wire inside of it.



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Posted by: S13psi at 3:57 PM 3/26/2007

ghetto lovin'
el Cheapo Bandito!



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Posted by: Chezedik at 4:27 PM 3/26/2007

Is the plan to run this until it blows, because I have to say, that could be a while if you are taking all of the appropriate steps, which it seems like you are. Do you have the SR piping for the sidemount, if you do, you are made in the shade.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: redtop91 at 4:29 PM 3/26/2007

I'd like to see how long this lasts. There is a SOHC down the street that I'd like to pick up and eff with.



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Bwana at 5:31 PM 3/26/2007

The FMU I have is actually adjustable (in some way, it's a buddy's and I've never seen one like it before). I have a front mount that came with the RB, complete w/ piping (for the RB) so I may just throw that in there and figure out a way to make stuff line up. IF it doesn't blow (that's not really the goal, just considered the likely result) I'll drive it until I have the RB fully prepped to drop in. At that point, if everything is still in good shape I'll put the mani/turbo/downpipe/oil lines up for sale for a couple hundred bucks and someone else can enjoy a cheap KAeT .



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 5:32 PM 3/26/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
You need to bake the mani before you weld it. That will make it stronger.

I've been pre heating it with my torch before welding, which is working fine. After I get it all together I'll clean everything up with the tig too.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 5:34 PM 3/26/2007



It will not blow if you correctly set the FMU. I would love an adjustable unit, but no one knows the level of adjustability. I may just make one adjustable. It would be pretty easy to do.



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (sil80drifter)
Posted by: Brandon93240 at 6:05 AM 3/27/2007

I don't want to know why you know what a torn up a**hole looks like, nor do I think anyone else does either. Did you do some time in prison or something?



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Posted by: Chezedik at 7:51 AM 3/27/2007

This is where the post-whores hang out!



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)
Posted by: NismoBgt at 12:30 PM 3/27/2007

DaAMMM that is like putting the TOW back in'2 GehTOw



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T
Posted by: WDRacing at 1:56 PM 3/27/2007

Technically they're all adjustable because you can swap out the diaphrams. I would definitly apply some pressure via a brake bleeder kit or somthing and see how much the pressure goes up.

With that setup and a 8:1 ish fmu you'll probably be able to run for ALONG time with no issues at all.

Whats the internal WG set to on the T25? 7-8 psi IIRC...just enough to not need any timing retard.

WD



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing)
Posted by: redtop91 at 2:03 PM 3/27/2007



It is supposed to be 7-8 but on the SR T25 it is more like 10. Ionno about the CA's.



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (eazye2000)
Posted by: ghx407 at 2:18 PM 3/27/2007

Quote, originally posted by eazye2000 »

I'm gonna second that thought. But it can't be as bad as my Ford 4.9 I-6 with a T4 Blow Through Carburated setup i botched back in the day. I'll have to dig up pics..

This thread is gonna be teh sechs!!

nkin

That's funny, my brother and I were just thinking about turbocharging my dad's '86 F-150 I-6 to see how long it'll hold. It just doesn't seem to die...



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (WDRacing)
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:40 PM 3/27/2007



Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so.



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 2:45 PM 3/27/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Some FMUs have an adjustment on the top by the vac line, it limits the vacuum going in and affects the ratio of boost to fuel. Fully open it is probably something like a 12:1 and closed is 2:1 or so.

That's exactly what this one's like. I got the FMIC mounted today. If I end up with tomorrow off too, and my flanges and lines come in we'll be boostin' soon! I also scored a r33 crossmember for the rb swap, it was the one thing I was missing. $50 and local FTW!



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Posted by: Chezedik at 5:56 PM 3/27/2007



Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Dieselman at 6:47 PM 3/27/2007

ah yes.....the ghetto thread

This is gonna be a fun project......heck, it already is. Like Aaron said, the FMIC is in, need to get the battery mounted in the trunk, weld up them flanges and go to Home Depot for the PVC!

I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure!

I should go take a pic of the shop right now. 240 on the lift, the MG with the head off of it, and I'm building a set of twin turbos on a 98 dodge dually all at the same time....crazyness LOL



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:52 PM 3/27/2007



Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Would you sell that FMU? Maybe I can offer enough to get another?

The FMU I'm borrowing from a buddy, but I don't think he really has a use for it, so it may be for sale in a couple weeks, I can let you know.

Quote, originally posted by Dieselman »
I personally think that the clutch will be the first thing to die.....it feels really bad already. But we'll kill it in style thats for sure!

I have fears for the clutch too...



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: redtop91 at 6:55 PM 3/27/2007



Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors?



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Bwana at 5:33 AM 3/28/2007

Quote, originally posted by redtop91 »
Are you planning to run this without fuel management on stock injectors?


ADJUSTABLE FMU Reference entire thread above.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 7:22 AM 3/28/2007



Pirate BURN!



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Posted by: AZhitman at 7:41 AM 3/28/2007

This thread rocks.

If this can be done for the budget you're talking, I'll put it on the homepage.

Aaron, take lots of pics.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 5:43 PM 3/28/2007



Ahhh F it, I'll post whore too. AZHitman, you have the most flippin posts I've ever seen.

Also, how many ppl run this kind of thing without an intercooler?

sil80



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Posted by: Chezedik at 6:06 PM 3/28/2007



Porsche did it for a while.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: hannibal at 12:39 PM 3/29/2007

^^ Z31's didnt have IC's either.

Kick *** Aaron!



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Posted by: Chezedik at 1:18 PM 3/29/2007



There you go, lot's of early 80's and late 70's turbo cars didn't have them either. Then you can just use intercooler hose from turbo to TB.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 2:43 PM 3/29/2007

An entire FMIC with plumbing is only $117 on friggin ebay. To not use an IC is retarded period dot.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 4:00 PM 3/29/2007

Period Dot?



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 7:28 PM 3/29/2007

buuuut to get the piping made and fitted is a lot of hassle or some good cash spent... it just doesn't go with "El Cheappppo!"


sil80



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: hannibal at 7:41 PM 3/29/2007



Quote, originally posted by WDRacing »
An entire FMIC with plumbing is only $117 on friggin ebay. To not use an IC is retarded period dot.

thats more than half his budget though...



Post Title: Re: (hannibal)
Posted by: WDRacing at 9:44 AM 3/30/2007

Thats for the entire FMIC kit, couplings and piping included. I only used that as an example. Aaron obviously has hunter gatherer skills, I'm sure he can snag a Supra IC or somthing along those lines for way cheap.

Not to mention when he does swap in the RB for his next project, the FMIC stays. So it isn't just a ghetto budget item, its a good investment.

Period Dot means end of argument, anything said beyond that becomes mute.

WD





Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 12:01 PM 3/30/2007



Moot.




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Posted by: Chezedik at 1:29 PM 3/30/2007

Indeed Mute/Moot...



Post Title: Re: (sil80drifter)
Posted by: WDRacing at 1:33 PM 3/30/2007

Quote, originally posted by sil80drifter »
Moot.

Dick....



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: hannibal at 3:19 PM 3/30/2007



hmm, good point about keeping the IC for the RB swap.

LOL@ hunter-gatherer!



Post Title: Re: (hannibal)
Posted by: Bwana at 4:50 PM 3/30/2007



Masta hunter/gatherer/fabber here!

I mean, I did score the complete rb25 swap (out of a s13) for 2350...

Current progress report:

I've had some free time this week, so I've made some good progress. I did install a good fmic, but I'm not going to include the price of it due to the fact that I already had it, so it goes in the category of "shop parts". Also the battery relocation, that was done more in preparation for the rb swap anyway. The manifold is done and mounted, I'll get some pics tonight. The downpipe is about half done, pics of that too. FMU is installed, as well as the walbro. More complete update w/ pics to follow...



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: DC2 Darren at 4:56 PM 3/30/2007



just ran across this thread. This is awesome Can't wait to see vids of it up and running!



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)
Posted by: Abdo at 5:05 PM 3/30/2007

sounds like you'll be havin funn



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Posted by: Chezedik at 7:27 PM 3/30/2007

The only problem I have with the $200 budget is that it is effectively unattainable for anyone but you. We are talking about a turbo setup that was built mostly from stuff you had lying around like a $90 fuel pump and a $180 FMU, $150 intercooler set, etc.

I am happy that you are able to get a little piece of turbo heaven for 200 or so bux, and get by until you have a fully built RB25, but it is hardly budget.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 7:32 PM 3/30/2007



Upon completion of the project, I'll go through and make a parts list with current market values for all the parts. I'm guessing the total will be around 5-600.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 7:43 PM 3/30/2007

I like the idea of that, and I think you are probably right. Something between 500 and 700.

BTW, have you checked to make sure that the mani seals? Or are you going to address it when you get it started and find leaks?

You know the worst part of it all, is you will make as much if not more WHP as the CA claims in CHP for that. HA! What a bunch of dopes!



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 8:06 PM 3/30/2007



Here's the update.

Manifold completed and installed:


With the turbo setting in place:


A couple pics of the beginning of downpipe modification:


FMU installed, but not really mounted yet:


And the sweet pvc (as promised!) cold pipe mocked up :

It should be wrapped up and running tomorrow. Then there'll be plenty of pics and video of the "finished" product.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 8:19 PM 3/30/2007



Bet the first problem is that the pipe dope fails. Not naysaying, but I know that stuff. I built a boost leak detector and it kept popping off. But you might be alright at only 7psi.



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Posted by: TheOne at 11:35 PM 3/30/2007

look @ that manifold!, so was that the stock mani, welded shut on the end side and made a hole in the middle?(always though about somefin like that with a dohc mani, not do it by the middle but more like @ the end of the mani)



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Posted by: Chezedik at 8:25 AM 3/31/2007

Are you sure that's an FMU and not a FPR?



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: WDRacing at 8:38 AM 3/31/2007

That pic makes it look like it came from the factory boosted. Well done Aaron.

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Are you sure that's an FMU and not a FPR?

Agreed, that looks like a AFPR not a FMU. Are we high?

WD



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Posted by: Chezedik at 8:43 AM 3/31/2007



I don't know about you but a I have a Vault Zero here.

There do make adjustable FMU's but aren't all FMUs round, since they require the discs?



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: Bwana at 10:19 AM 3/31/2007



Quote, originally posted by WDRacing »
That pic makes it look like it came from the factory boosted. Well done Aaron. WD

Wait till you see the completed down pipe, it will dispel all such illusions...

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Are you sure that's an FMU and not a FPR?


I'm not absolutely sure. That's what he told me, but it has no identifying markings on it, so???



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: jmwenick at 11:36 AM 3/31/2007



Just up the pressure to like 60PSI or something, should get a few more cc's of fuel in there. Just make sure the fuel lines are on good.



Post Title: Re: (jmwenick)
Posted by: WDRacing at 12:37 PM 3/31/2007

Then he gets crap gas mileage and his idle AFR's go in the gutter...

I'm trying to get him to swap in some 370's he has and go with a MAF Bypass and base timing retard for tuning.

WD



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Abdo at 1:13 PM 3/31/2007



Quote, originally posted by Bwana »
I'm not absolutely sure. That's what he told me, but it has no identifying markings on it, so???

-yea im almost positive thats a fuel pressure regulator

good job on ghetto rigging a sohc ka-t! fkin sweetness, props on your custom work



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 3:07 PM 3/31/2007



OMG

Please remove valve cover tube from cold pipe unless you plan on boosting the crap out of the valvetrain and block insides.....

Although funny to an onlooker it would surely make your entire budget and craftsmanship efforts moot.

Yeah, WD sorry, I'll buy you a beer if you're ever in CT.

sil80

Modified by sil80drifter at 1:35 PM 4/1/2007



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: jmwenick at 4:08 PM 3/31/2007



Quote, originally posted by WDRacing »
Then he gets crap gas mileage and his idle AFR's go in the gutter...

I'm trying to get him to swap in some 370's he has and go with a MAF Bypass and base timing retard for tuning.

WD

Not true, My Enthalpy ecu I have been running at 75psi and Have perfect idle and cruise. I just don't know if it is safe. But in his situation, it might not matter, cause he has the RB waiting.



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Posted by: AZhitman at 6:20 PM 3/31/2007



AA, that thing RULES.

Looks like something I flushed after a night of Coronas and Taco Bell, but it's cool.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Chingon at 8:20 PM 3/31/2007



Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Bet the first problem is that the pipe dope fails. Not naysaying, but I know that stuff. I built a boost leak detector and it kept popping off. But you might be alright at only 7psi.

I've seen pvc hydrotested to 90 psi w/o problems..



Post Title: Re: (jmwenick)
Posted by: WDRacing at 9:00 PM 3/31/2007



If you're running 75psi its because the tune sucks or you would be running rich, don't argue because thats fact. Rom tunes are either designed for high fuel pressure or they are designed around a 43.5 psi base fuel pressure. Increasing said fuel pressure WILL make the fuel map rich...period.



Post Title: Re: (sil80drifter)
Posted by: Chezedik at 9:10 PM 3/31/2007

Is that the Tim Armstrong Project?

EDIT: only if that is him in the background.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 7:00 AM 4/1/2007



Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Is that the Tim Armstrong Project?

EDIT: only if that is him in the background.


No idea lol. It's some random pic Dano sent me to replace Brian's (assumed) edit.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 9:57 AM 4/1/2007



Beats the hell out of the tulips I get.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:19 PM 4/1/2007

Update #2 - Project Success!

After a couple minor issues, the project has been deemed a success! The issues basically consisted of me neglecting to disconnect one of the pcv lines resulting in poor oil drainage characteristics in the turbo drain (think m4d smoking turbo) as well as some oil loss in other places. With that rectified everything seems to be pretty satisfactory. I didn't really have room for the wastegate actuator, so we just wired it shut. We're making max boost of 8 psi at approx 2700-2900 rpm. Here's some pics of everything.

Our sweet temp boost gauge


Apex-i GT exhaust (it came with the RB, so I figured I might as well put it on, it sounds great!).


The FMIC that also came with the RB.


Plumbing, cold pipe side.


REAL FMU installed in there.


Ign coil relocated to former air box location.


Side view of the turbo, showing the drain, supply etc.


The sweet downpipe mentioned before, kinda brutal but no leaks!


And finally, an over-all front view of the turbo.

That's really all there is to it. It took me about a week, working a few evenings and one Saturday. I'll be doing a realistic market value breakdown on everything shortly.






Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: redtop91 at 6:21 PM 4/1/2007



Taken it for a spin yet?



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Posted by: nvrplzd240 at 6:21 PM 4/1/2007

WOW bro

She looks great..



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:26 PM 4/1/2007



Quote, originally posted by redtop91 »
Taken it for a spin yet?

You bet, flogged the heck out of it too.



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Posted by: Chezedik at 6:27 PM 4/1/2007



Good Deal. How does it feel?



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Posted by: Florida240sx at 6:33 PM 4/1/2007

Get to the track before she blows. or dyno. SOHC-T FTW



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: redtop91 at 6:35 PM 4/1/2007

Quote, originally posted by Bwana »

You bet, flogged the heck out of it too.

You sir are THE manly men of men.



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Dieselman at 8:08 PM 4/1/2007



Yessir! I drove it a bit also. 5500-6000 rpm and bangin the gears

If I had to guess it picked up close to 50hp



Post Title: Re: (Dieselman)
Posted by: redtop91 at 8:10 PM 4/1/2007



LOL 90->140 whp?



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: Bwana at 8:18 PM 4/1/2007

Quote, originally posted by redtop91 »
LOL 90->140 whp?


It's no rocket, but a 50-60% hp gain for $2-300 isn't bad.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: redtop91 at 8:22 PM 4/1/2007



Indeedie. There is a SOHC down the street that you have inspired my to buy.



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: driftmyke at 8:30 PM 4/1/2007

i must give congrats, cheap custom turbo in under a week, sick.





Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Abdo at 2:43 PM 4/2/2007



badass dude, post some vids of that beast

i cant wait for ur rb25



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 3:04 PM 4/2/2007



OMG!
I was right!
You had issue with the valve cover being boosted!
Glad you got it all set, sounds like a very fun setup!

sil80



Post Title: Re: (sil80drifter)
Posted by: DC2 Darren at 6:01 PM 4/2/2007



thats awesome that its succesful! Vids or Ban!



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Posted by: Chezedik at 9:40 AM 4/3/2007

Def, we need vids!



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: DJButton at 7:43 PM 4/4/2007

Aaron... right on!



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Posted by: Chezedik at 9:31 AM 4/5/2007

I'll get that clutch to you after my second class.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 3:35 PM 4/5/2007

THE OFFICIAL EL CHEAPO KA-T VIDEO IS HERE!!!



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: redtop91 at 3:38 PM 4/5/2007

Is it just my gay work computers or is there only audio?



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: WDRacing at 3:50 PM 4/5/2007

Quote, originally posted by Bwana »
THE OFFICIAL EL CHEAPO KA-T VIDEO IS HERE!!!

Wow...well done. Good narating and left hand shifting. With that budget, very impressive. That one hot pipe connector made me spit coffee up.

WD



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: WDRacing at 3:52 PM 4/5/2007



Quote, originally posted by redtop91 »
Am I just Ultra GAY or...nevermind thats it, I'm gay.

Quoted for clarity



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: redtop91 at 3:54 PM 4/5/2007



Har Har Har. So how about those pics you were going to email me of yourself Brian?



Post Title: Re: (redtop91)
Posted by: WDRacing at 4:01 PM 4/5/2007

You never got the email?



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Posted by: 1WheelWonder at 4:09 PM 4/5/2007

Twisted blue silicone hot pipe coupler FTW!!!!



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Posted by: gaehrings13 at 4:43 PM 4/5/2007

Jesus man your lifters sound like caca lol. I can't hear what you saying all i hear is CLACK CLACK CLACK LOL. But the car runs pretty good and the setup on the turbo looks pretty good, I dont think that downpipe looks that bad if it doesn't leak then it works lol.

You can get a lot of steel ubends at napa for really really cheap. I think i bought my 3inch ubends for like 18$ at napa. That way the downpipe and the piping can be a little bit smoother. If your using 2 1/4 piping is even more cheaper.

Well I know you were just trying to do a kit for as cheap as possible but I was just wanted to tell you cuz your said you were gonna take it to the track. Oh well Nice job on the kit and cool video.



Post Title: Re: (gaehrings13)
Posted by: Bwana at 5:44 PM 4/5/2007



I know, the lifters are horrible


I have a ton of u bends laying around, but nothing tight enough to make that corner...



Post Title: Re: (gaehrings13)
Posted by: Poor_S13_Driver at 5:45 PM 4/5/2007



Very intertaining video. Awesome video work given the circumstances. Ive seen worse with someone in the passenger seat holding the camera with both hands. I think the oil drain line was the most expensive part on the whole setup. Awesome DIY work. Sounds like you have a marble under your valve cover, Keep us updated



Post Title: Re: (Poor_S13_Driver)
Posted by: DC2 Darren at 6:14 PM 4/5/2007

Thats awesome. That little turbo surges like mofo, haha. Good luck and keep us posted!



Post Title:
Posted by: turbo2nr at 8:01 PM 4/5/2007

lol i feel stupid now for spending near 3k to build my ka-t setup.. lol gotta love the ghettp-ness

pvc pipes ftw!



Post Title: Re: (turbo2nr)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 8:31 PM 4/5/2007



Right on man! Very thorough vid. Nice to see something not shaky and only 15 seconds long!
Awesome man, and great job! Those are some sweet cracks! j/k!

~E~



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: boriquaS13 at 8:50 PM 4/5/2007



Bwana that's freakin awesome I love budget builds.


Budget builds FTW!!!!!



Post Title: Re: (boriquaS13)
Posted by: nelson8708 at 4:06 AM 4/6/2007



i was always wondering if you could use the stock manifold by modifing it. I now know.

Your ka-t music is awsome.



Post Title: Re: (nelson8708)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 7:18 AM 4/6/2007



Vavaviva!

sil80



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 8:30 AM 4/6/2007



You should use the bosch BOV, it can be had for 5-10 on ebay.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 9:27 AM 4/6/2007

The "high pressure" Bosche Bypass valve is cheap and works very well. Then again, you're only boosting a little. If your RB came with a Bypass valve, you could use it for awhile no?

WD



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 10:14 AM 4/6/2007



And it's high pressure!



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 10:16 AM 4/6/2007

You are aware that are two yes? One with a stronger spring, hence the higher pressure



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: Bwana at 11:21 AM 4/6/2007

I've just about got the bov that came with the rb on there. It's a dsm bov, and seems to work pretty well at the low boost, but I still have some sealing issues to deal with. Pics to follow.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:19 PM 4/6/2007

Be careful, you get a bigger turbo, and you might have to sell that RB. Maybe that is what happened to the person you bought it from.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Abdo at 3:38 PM 4/6/2007

aww the poor sohc is knocking!
thanks for the video!!



Post Title:
Posted by: awesomenick at 9:45 PM 4/6/2007

yeah! bring that beast to slc.
if my car was running i'd say we should go for a drive.



Post Title:
Posted by: Edub1 at 4:51 PM 4/7/2007

Sweet! I wonder if a turbo could be ounted on the end of the manifold where you blocked it off.



Post Title:
Posted by: N_E_R_V_EVA01 at 5:15 AM 4/8/2007

quick question, what are you doing about timing?



Post Title: Re: (N_E_R_V_EVA01)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:48 AM 4/8/2007

Quote, originally posted by N_E_R_V_EVA01 »
quick question, what are you doing about timing?


Virtually nothing. Initially I pulled a bunch of timing (with the distributor) and then started turning it back up until I got minor detonation. Then I backed it off a couple degrees. Not scientific, but it works fine.



Post Title: Re: (Edub1)
Posted by: WDRacing at 12:50 PM 4/8/2007



Quote, originally posted by Edub1 »
Sweet! I wonder if a turbo could be ounted on the end of the manifold where you blocked it off.

Perhaps if it was made to be a bottom mount, or else you'd have no place for the DP to go.

WD



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:05 PM 4/8/2007



Would there be any significant advantage?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 3:04 PM 4/8/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Would there be any significant advantage?

Not at all, the way it is now, the turbo is placed at a nice exhaust flow convergance spot.

WD



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 3:37 PM 4/8/2007



Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
Would there be any significant advantage?

No, and it'd be significantly more difficult.



Post Title:
Posted by: Florida240sx at 5:06 PM 4/8/2007



Nice. Can't wait to find out what 1/4mile is



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Craving4Boost at 5:52 PM 4/8/2007

Quote, originally posted by Bwana »
Virtually nothing. Initially I pulled a bunch of timing (with the distributor) and then started turning it back up until I got minor detonation. Then I backed it off a couple degrees. Not scientific, but it works fine.

how did you detect minor detonation?



Post Title: Re: (Craving4Boost)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:22 PM 4/8/2007



Quote, originally posted by Craving4Boost »

how did you detect minor detonation?





Post Title:
Posted by: Florida240sx at 6:59 PM 4/8/2007



Was wondering how'd you respond.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 7:39 PM 4/8/2007

Is that a HOT chick's ear?!

Is she single? Do you know her? Can I get a #? Is she easy?


Err....

Yeah, um, good call there on the, uh... timing, there. Good job, all around.


sil80



Post Title: Re: (sil80drifter)
Posted by: Bwana at 7:58 PM 4/8/2007



Quote, originally posted by sil80drifter »
Is that a HOT chick's ear?!


Presumably yes, it is. Why else would I use it? Other than the fact that it was on the first page when I google imaged it...






Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 7:10 AM 4/9/2007



So, in effect you advanced timing on boost? Brave soul, but I bet it feels pretty good.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 7:41 AM 4/9/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
So, in effect you advanced timing on boost? Brave soul, but I bet it feels pretty good.

When I first put the turbo on I backed the timing out a good 7*, then started advancing it a bit, drive it, advance it a bit, drive it until I started to sense detonation, then I backed it out about 2*.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 7:46 AM 4/9/2007



So where are you now?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: sil80drifter at 2:54 PM 4/9/2007

In Cheap-O heaven?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 4:42 PM 4/9/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
So where are you now?


I don't actually know. When I went to check, I discovered that my Craftsman timing light has somehow died on me. Time to make a run to Sears I guess...



Post Title:
Posted by: Edub1 at 10:32 AM 4/10/2007



I start pulling timing at 5lbs with 2-3 pulled out for 10lbs. With the dist pulled back 2* W/ 93 octane and a step or two colder plug you should be good to 10 lbs.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:54 PM 4/10/2007

IDK if Sears will guarantee that, though.



Post Title:
Posted by: zerepdivad at 8:28 PM 4/15/2007

So how's this holding up?



Post Title: Re: (zerepdivad)
Posted by: Bwana at 9:06 PM 4/15/2007

Basically, fine. I put the clutch in it Fri morning (Thanks Nick!) but I blew the oil seal in the poor little CA t25 . It was in unknown condition to start with, and being off a CA is almost 20 years old anyway, so it was bound to happen.

I put some coils on the car this weekend, besides the clutch in preparation for racing it at Miller in SLC in a couple weeks. I'll be throwing a gt28r on it sometime in the next week or so and then it should be gtg. Update with new turbo will arrive shortly after installation.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:52 PM 4/15/2007



+1 for the gt28r, and have fun trackin it!



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:52 PM 4/16/2007

Be careful, you keep upgrading this car, and you are gonna want to get rid of the RB. How do you like the clutch? Much better than stock, right?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 2:58 PM 4/16/2007

If any Nico member ever gets rid of an RB in favor of a KA24E, I'll see them banned FOREVER



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 9:42 PM 4/16/2007

Yeah, but you're a D-bag. BTW, I am going back to Phoenix on Wed. I interview with a local dealership there, so maybe I will end up there to terrorize you in *ugh* Tuscon.



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 9:26 PM 4/18/2007

Aaron, I got the springs today, you should have that turbo by Monday at the latest, I would think.



Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: Bwana at 9:50 PM 4/19/2007

Ryan: Sounds good, I won't be home 'till Sun anyway.

Nick: I put the clutch in on Fri (3 hr job) but with the t25 dead I haven't been able to test it out yet.


Have no fear in regards to the RB, it IS going in



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 10:39 AM 4/20/2007



Are you putting a new turbo on it?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 1:32 PM 4/20/2007

Yep, GT28r. I traded Ryan (float_6969) a set of new eibach sportlines for it.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 1:59 PM 4/20/2007

Is it ebay?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 3:58 PM 4/21/2007

Nope.



Post Title:
Posted by: Jungguo at 5:36 PM 4/21/2007

Hey bwana, im workin on a KAeT right now... im from S Ft Collins.... my 240 is in berthoud right now getting a new clutch.... i ate the splines on my stage 4..... hit me up on my cell.... id like to check out your ride. I'll be out on College rollin tonight.... 391 3726. Laters... oh and yes im on codrift.



Post Title: Re: (Jungguo)
Posted by: Bwana at 9:56 PM 4/21/2007

Quote, originally posted by Jungguo »
Hey bwana, im workin on a KAeT right now... im from S Ft Collins.... my 240 is in berthoud right now getting a new clutch.... i ate the splines on my stage 4..... hit me up on my cell.... id like to check out your ride. I'll be out on College rollin tonight.... 391 3726. Laters... oh and yes im on codrift.

I'm in CA right now, but I'll be back home for about half of next week. I'll hit you up!



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: r3skyline at 1:05 PM 4/23/2007



any updates on this? thinkin about actually trying something to what you did with the stock mani. :D also, what was that block piece that you welded on before the flange? where can i get one?

Modified by r3skyline at 1:26 PM 4/23/2007



Post Title: Re: (r3skyline)
Posted by: Bwana at 4:51 PM 4/24/2007

I just got the gt28r installed and running today. It IS wastgated, at 5psi for now. It's running well, but I do kind of miss the super fast spool of that tiny turbo . I'll get some more under hood shots soon, it's raining right now.

Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
what was that block piece that you welded on before the flange? where can i get one?

I just made that out of 4 small slightly angled pieces of 1/8 plate steel.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 8:03 PM 4/24/2007



Funny, I would think that the spool would be more or less the same on a T28 as a T25, since the compressor is not much heavier. WERD!



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: r3skyline at 1:10 PM 4/25/2007

hey, after your done having fun with it, can i actually buy your mani and downpipe? :D



Post Title: Re: (r3skyline)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:50 PM 4/25/2007

Here's a current pic with the new gt28r installed.

As you can see, I actually went to the trouble to fab a intake this time, with the bov installed and recirculated and a pcv system port.

I really am going to do a real world breakdown of the cost for this setup, I just haven't had time...


Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
hey, after your done having fun with it, can i actually buy your mani and downpipe? :D

I'm going to be selling everything in a month or so, so it will be available.



Post Title:
Posted by: nvrplzd240 at 8:31 PM 4/25/2007



Looks great man.. I still say you should trade me turbos tho



Post Title: Re: (nvrplzd240)
Posted by: Bwana at 6:21 AM 5/1/2007

*Quick Update*

I did manage to melt down the poor 'ol KA out at Miller Motorsports Park this past weekend, on the road track, at 12psi .

I'll get back to this thread soon with more info!

A pic of the '40 racing:





Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 9:46 AM 5/1/2007



that is a WICKED tease. How did you "Melt" it? throw a rod, blow ring lands..... literally "melt" it? PICS!
12 psi would put your fuel pressure pretty high.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 10:34 AM 5/1/2007

Yeah, you can't do that to us. Well, it was still really neat while it lasted.



Post Title:
Posted by: AZhitman at 11:05 AM 5/1/2007

We'll have an article up shortly - it was AWESOME.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 12:50 PM 5/1/2007

I feel as though "melted" is a key word here... maybe something to do with the PVC piping, getting all up in there?

Video would be nice.



Post Title:
Posted by: daconkiftador at 6:06 PM 5/4/2007



we wanna know!



Post Title: Re: (daconkiftador)
Posted by: boriquaS13 at 6:17 PM 5/4/2007

Waiting watching, come on please.



Post Title:
Posted by: zerepdivad at 12:41 AM 5/5/2007

waiting......... lets hear it or better yet SEE it....



Post Title:
Posted by: Charlie240sxt at 7:29 AM 5/5/2007

12psi with stock inj, stock MAF his pistons are whats melted i bet



Post Title:
Posted by: WDRacing at 7:36 AM 5/5/2007

Nope, wasn't any of the internal rotating parts that went. Out of all the things to go bad, this was the "best" option. Personally I think he's a puss if he doesn't fix it and boost it again...



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 2:32 PM 5/5/2007

Bull**** WD, you know what it is and aren't sharing?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 3:22 PM 5/5/2007

The first time he took her out on the track it overheated and a plug wire caught fire. The car was steadily increasing boost by itself as every lap went by.

Aaron left to go get a scuba certification but let Greg take the car around the track for a few hot laps. Greg is the one that "blew up" the motor.

How's that?



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 4:45 PM 5/5/2007



Bummer. So is Greg putting a new motor in it, LOL. So I am guessing that it just blew a ring land?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: WDRacing at 5:50 PM 5/5/2007

No and no...lol.



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: Bwana at 11:09 AM 5/6/2007

Sorry for the cliff hanger guys lol. I'm on a bit of a European tour right now, so I've been kinda busy.

Basically I think that the majority of damage to the engine was due to plain overheating. It blew the upper radiator hose on the back stretch of lap 7 and that's when I finally stopped, and found the burning plug wire . Pretty much I think the heat resulting from the incredibly lean situation was just too much for a 250k motor. It still runs, but it's tight enough that the starter can barely turn it and it won't idle. I'll tear it down when I get it out and take some pics of the internals for you all. I really think that with some 370's it would have run happily at 12psi, and kicked it good at the track. When I saw the boost beginning to creep I thought "I should pit and fix that", but since I didn't really care about the engine, I just kept it rolling!



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: WDRacing at 11:24 AM 5/6/2007



You forgot to mention that Greg popped your headgasket.



Post Title: Re: (WDRacing)
Posted by: Bwana at 11:28 AM 5/6/2007

Well, I assume it is blown, but it's not super bad, and really probably due to me overheating it. Greg let us thrash the G, so I have no hard feelings .



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 6:56 PM 5/6/2007

I am guessing that Loveland is in the four corners?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: r3skyline at 8:51 AM 5/7/2007

so your gonna part it out now right? :D i wanna have fun with it too. :D cant find anyone around here willin to help me out to try something similar



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 9:25 AM 5/7/2007

Quote, originally posted by Chezedik »
I am guessing that Loveland is in the four corners?

Nope, northern front range. About 1 hr north of Denver.


Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
so your gonna part it out now right? :D i wanna have fun with it too. :D cant find anyone around here willin to help me out to try something similar


I am parting it out. My buddy Ed says he may want it, so he has first dibs. If you want, I have another manifold laying around I can do up for you.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 6:58 PM 5/7/2007



I just assumed that since you knew AZ and WD and race together that you would close to AZ.



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: Bwana at 12:37 PM 5/8/2007

Nope, just know them from NICO events and the forums.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 7:56 PM 5/8/2007

Ah...



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: r3skyline at 9:56 AM 5/14/2007

thatd be awesome if you could do a mani for me. :D



Post Title: Re: (r3skyline)
Posted by: Bwana at 10:16 AM 5/14/2007

Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
thatd be awesome if you could do a mani for me. :D

I'm in Europe right now, but I'll be home this weekend. I'll get in touch with you after I get home.



Post Title:
Posted by: Chezedik at 11:12 AM 5/14/2007



You are just a travelling fool, aren't you?



Post Title: Re: (Chezedik)
Posted by: r3skyline at 4:57 PM 5/14/2007

geez, only place i ever go to is japan...IF im lucky...



Post Title: Re: (r3skyline)
Posted by: Morph at 11:09 AM 5/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by r3skyline »
geez, only place i ever go to is japan...IF im lucky...

Wow that's tough. Dude how do you stand it??? I mean all that sushi and Japanese women I'm surprised that you haven't killed your self yet. Hang in there man maybe you will get to go to Montana one day.



Post Title: Re: (Morph)
Posted by: S13FX at 11:43 AM 5/15/2007



Well I got to go to countries where it's nice a warm all day and night long about 114F , and they like to shoot at you if you don't worship the cow. And especially if your wearing cammies ...



Post Title: Re: (S13FX)
Posted by: Bwana at 5:32 AM 5/22/2007

I'm back home now, and the turbo setup will be removed and ready for sale shortly. The classifieds thread is here.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 2:10 PM 5/22/2007

Dude, I can't wait to see the next project you build after having some hands on experience on the last one!
I bet it's gonna be some MacGyver s**t that has something to do with a paperclip, some bubble gum, and a tube sock!

Naw, seriously.. You got to try something else man. I would definitely build the motor to be bulletproof first though. Then you can throw almost whatever you want at it!



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: Bwana at 2:54 PM 5/24/2007



Right now I'm preparing to put the 25 in the 240. It'll end up running a gt3071r, injectors and megasquirt, tuned to about 325whp.

The real upcoming project is the J30 track car we're planning. 450whp of VH45 goodness, possibly a z33 6 speed, full suspension, stripped and caged. Full out road race car...



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: jallen at 8:20 PM 5/26/2007



i just read through this entire thread, and it wasn't until i get to the end that i see you're in Loveland! I live in Denver, and have been trying to find any worthwhile 240 in this state with little luck, there's a couple S14s but no 13s yet. Are there any worthwhile meet ups in CO? I'd love to see the 25 when you get it done. And if you should randomly hear of any 240s goin for sale in CO, i'd appreciate a heads up!



Post Title: Re: (jallen)
Posted by: Bwana at 2:49 PM 6/22/2007

UPDATE INTERNAL ENGINE PICS!!!!


The block:


A cylinder wall:


The head:


So basically, here's the deal.

The KA has gained my respect immensely. This is a 250k mi engine, harshly abused. When I got it the PO had trashed the guides and the chain was in the pan, in like 3 pieces. There are clearly visible marks on the tops of the pistons from contact with open valves. Notwithstanding, this thing held up to some major abuse (12 psi) while road racing with basically 0 management and minor ( FMU only) fuel mods. The head gasket was perfectly intact. There is no evidence whatsoever of detonation in the cylinders. There is very little ridge at the tops of the cylinders, even with the high mileage and the fact that when I got it there was a ton of coolant in the pan due to the timing chain wearing through the cover into the water jacket.

Just thought I'd give you guys a final update on this project. We're doing a major cleaning in the shop today so we figured now was the time to zip it apart and take some pics. The engine will be going in the dumpster shortly... The majority of the turbo setup is still for sale (even as cheap as it is... ).



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 3:15 PM 6/22/2007



Well done my friend!

After about 180k on my motor, I had the same light ridge at the top of my cylinder walls. The best thing about it, was that the factory cross hatch marks in the cylinders were still visible!

Good luck with your future endeavors!



Post Title: Re: (eazye2000)
Posted by: eds13 at 3:32 PM 6/24/2007



wow, that did alot better than i thought it would do!



Post Title:
Posted by: Charlie240sxt at 2:42 PM 6/25/2007

so it was the ring lands???

Modified by Charlie240sxt at 5:07 PM 7/6/2007



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Edub1 at 2:31 PM 6/27/2007

Wow, that is one hell of a motor. Now we know why people buy imports. 12psi and no management and 250K - wow.



Post Title: Re: Project el cheapo KA-T (Bwana)
Posted by: jongy at 2:02 PM 6/28/2007

the motor cost is



Post Title:
Posted by: HOMEMADE240SXTURBO at 9:10 PM 7/13/2007

kat ftw



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: 240sx_Guy at 4:31 PM 8/21/2007

ccan we get a lis of parts and costs.



Post Title: Re: (240sx_Guy)
Posted by: Bwana at 7:58 AM 8/22/2007

Ok, I'll run down this quickly but it should be pretty close.


Turbo: T25 should be about $200 in good shape, T28's will be more.

Manifold: Parts to modify approx. $25. I have made a couple for ppl at $125 per.

Downpipe: Approx. $30 depending on exactly how you do it.

Intercooler and piping: Get an eghey kit for approx. $120 and do some minor mods.

Turbo oil lines: $50-$150 depending on your quality standards.

8:1 FMU: Cheap ones are about $100 new, $50-70 use


That should be pretty much it. Wouldn't hurt to throw some colder plugs in, figure $25 for that or so...

Total then is something like $600 if you do the fabricating yourself and get decent oil lines and a new FMU and go with a SR T25.





Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 4:05 PM 8/22/2007



Did you ever sell the kit? If not, can I have the turbo back?



Post Title:
Posted by: S13 240SX at 8:07 PM 8/22/2007

so wait... chear this up for me... you got a rb25 engine set for cheap but yet your still messing aroud with a ka-t???

why?



Post Title: Re: (S13 240SX)
Posted by: Bwana at 8:40 PM 8/22/2007



The ka-t is long gone, but the thread popped back up in my "recent topics" list so I figured I might as well answer the questions...


Quote, originally posted by float_6969 »
Did you ever sell the kit? If not, can I have the turbo back?


Sorry Ryan, the kit did sell sans turbo, but Ryon (redtop) has your old turbo now...



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 9:00 PM 8/22/2007



OH well, I tried.



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: dirty240sx at 5:58 PM 11/1/2007

damn man!!!!
that is super sweet!!!!
I live in aurora colorado!!!
id love it if we could work sumthing out for u to custom one of my manifolds for a t2.
And id love to see hows the other projects are going sumtime.



Post Title: Re: (S13 240SX)
Posted by: nelson8708 at 4:53 PM 11/2/2007

Quote, originally posted by S13 240SX »
so wait... chear this up for me... you got a rb25 engine set for cheap but yet your still messing aroud with a ka-t???

why?

why not? might as well have some fun with it. Just beat the hell out of it because it doesnt matter if it blows.

I would add to that list to take a few degrees out of the distributor to help prevent detonitation. (spelling?)



Post Title: Re: (hannibal)
Posted by: matthunter8819 at 12:44 PM 11/6/2007



sweet



Post Title:
Posted by: wishihadas14 at 8:01 PM 12/5/2007

How would you do this to a DOHC manifold? Reliability?



Post Title: Re: (wishihadas14)
Posted by: psi240 at 2:18 AM 12/6/2007

Quote, originally posted by wishihadas14 »
How would you do this to a DOHC manifold? Reliability?

dohc manifolds u can get for cheap on ebay ... couple ppl on ka-t.org are selling them for like 100 new

or if u have a sr mani - u can cut the runners and weld them back on to fit the DE



Post Title:
Posted by: 240sx_Guy at 12:31 PM 1/24/2008



can someone explain all the lines coming from the turbo
noob



Post Title: Re: (Bwana)
Posted by: Dougbo9807 at 3:10 PM 11/19/2009

Totally reading this post, watch the video of the cruise looking kinda familiar and then I see Dairy Delight! Dude you in Loveland? I live in FOCO.... lol.



Post Title: Re: (Dougbo9807)
Posted by: Doya at 6:03 AM 11/20/2009

Thanks for bumping an almost 2 year old thread




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