Zenki to Kouki conversion

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Few questions that need to be answered. I was planning to do s14.5 conversion on my 96 se. Then i decided, it would cost less to do zenki to kouki conversion, and i kind of like it a little bit more. I was just wondering, if the fenders from 97-98 are direct bolt-on on the 95-96 models. Also, is it possible to use corner lights from 96 and kouki headlights? Would they match, or would it look funny... Im guessing, that the hood also would have be replaced. What's about the brackets? That's just thinking for now, thanks for replies and advices...


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1. Search2. Direct bolt on3. Don't do it, Zenki's are hotter anyway

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1. Search2. should be3. no4. no and yes they'd look funny if they did5. yes

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The kouki s14's are the hottest 240/silvia ever made....look way way better than the s15 anyway. The conversion should be too hard for you to do. As stated above going through search should provide you with most of your answers Best of luck.

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WRONG

Zenki > ALL

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I have to agree with NSRZ322...as usual. Koukis are all different kinds of hot.

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THe kouki front is kinda cool looking, but it totally doesnt flow with the rest of the lines of the car. Its all sharp angles, and then everything from the windshield back is all curves...looks weird together

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turtl631 wrote:THe kouki front is kinda cool looking, but it totally doesnt flow with the rest of the lines of the car. Its all sharp angles, and then everything from the windshield back is all curves...looks weird together
precisely. thank you my good man.

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To me the Kouki > Zenki

And I am sorry to say this but to me a Kouki is a tough looking mans car while a Zenki is a soft looking chicks car.

I am not trying to offend anyone this is just my 2¢

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sell it and get an s13 coupe... j/k

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stock body... kouki > zenki

zenki with lip (i.e. the "Lip KreW") is a little hotter than a stock body kouki

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Very true, a Zenki with a lip is pure sex.

Actually, curvy cars with lips are amazing, period.

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Do it!

I'll buy your old headlights from you...

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metalsyth wrote:And I am sorry to say this but to me a Kouki is a tough looking mans car while a Zenki is a soft looking chicks car.
I disagree. I like Kouki's a lot better and I think they are better looking then the Zenki's. Also, IMO I think its stupid to do a conversion. If you like the Kouki buy one and if you like the Zenki buy one. Why buy one and change it to look like the other...just to be unique, I dont understand...but that's just my opinion.

Anyways, I'm a chick and I think I would look hot driving a Kouki lol. Much sexier I would never buy a Zenki. But I do think anyone could drive either car and neither one is more masculine or feminine than the other.

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NSR240sxe wrote:
I disagree. I like Kouki's a lot better and I think they are better looking then the Zenki's. Also, IMO I think its stupid to do a conversion. If you like the Kouki buy one and if you like the Zenki buy one. Why buy one and change it to look like the other...just to be unique, I dont understand...but that's just my opinion.

Anyways, I'm a chick and I think I would look hot driving a Kouki lol. Much sexier I would never buy a Zenki. But I do think anyone could drive either car and neither one is more masculine or feminine than the other.

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Chicks do look hot driving Kouki's...that's just heaven seeing that sight lol.Haven't seen a chick drivign a zenki yet...maybe if I came over there.

There's a chick wh odrives a fastback too but I havent seen her or caught her in the act, just the car parked outside of where she works.

but I do think buy a kouki if you want a kouki, along those lines yinno?you'll find something to suit ur tastes better man

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NSR240sxe wrote:
I disagree. I like Kouki's a lot better and I think they are better looking then the Zenki's. Also, IMO I think its stupid to do a conversion. If you like the Kouki buy one and if you like the Zenki buy one. Why buy one and change it to look like the other...just to be unique, I dont understand...but that's just my opinion.
Ok i get what your saying but in my case i wanted a kouki but its out of my price range and was ready to go for a s13 hatch but i came upon this http://www.craigslist.org/pen/car/56974113.html i like zenkis and all but i like koukis more and since im already gonna be doin a quite o bit of body work thats the only way i could justify a conversion between the s14s

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wait....conversion from one car to the same car(almost anyway) thats just pointless, be happy with what you have, your mroe fortunate than im sure many people are that are lookin for an S14 right about now...

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I like zenkis. THe kouki front end looks kinda pinched and kinda looks wierd with the rest of the body. I'll take either one though(after an s13).lol

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S13 > S14

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Yes, you can use the Zenki corners and the Kouki headlamps together, you can use the Kouki hood as well, or modify the Zenki hood as shown here on an S13 Hatch. As for the bracket question..no clue

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And a side shot..also I have no clue who's car this is

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both zenki and kouki US model looks fugly as hell. without the jdm its disgusting. zenkis look like hotdogs and koukis is just a hotdog with boxes on the bumper. jdm is so much crazier the bumper is much longer. lowering any US 240sx is nasty without skirts it just cant get that low. most 240s look good when it gets all jdm'd haha.

jdm looking zenki: (notice the skirts, bumper, grill)http://store1.yimg.com/I/phase...95891

jdm looking kouki: (notice the grill, skirts, bumper)http://store1.yimg.com/I/jspec_1830_17709763

us zenki: (disgusted at the grill, bumper, imagining skirts on the car)http://images.autotrader.com/i...1.jpg

us kouki: (disgusted at the grill and bumper) damn its an eye sorehttp://images.autotrader.com/i...7.jpg

i dont know whats wrong with nissan not giving the US models any aero parts at all and giving us pathetic looking grills, bumpers and depriving us of skirts/rear valences and nicer spoilers.

yeah i basically hate looking at stock US spec 240s some of u might not feel that way but its just an opinion. that goes for 89-93 240s too. i dont know why some of you guys see stock color 240s and get all wet... i think theyre disgusting. i mean its cool to see them but id never get wet its just another car rolling on the street. when you see like a m3 or something thats a car with nice aero stock so yeah its pleasant to look at. i dont like stock nissan paint either but yeah my taste are different. even repainted to me without any aero or wheels whatever it just looks like a sub 15grand car. .

nissan depriving us of stock vlsds, aero, Atleast N/a sr20de's if not turbos, suede interior.

we gotta pay our 3k-8k for a car that isnt sport tuned or nice looking stock thats not fun =/. 3k for say a regular 91-93 fastback, 400-500 for kouki tails, 150-400 stock jdm skirts, 150 ~ rear valence, 350-400 jdm bumper, 3k front clip, 250-400 vlsd. XXXX paint... and finally our car will look decent. so were basically gonna have to pay 8k for a lets say 91-93 car =/ to make it have about 200hp and look good. im not saying jdm it the only route but im saying the cars we buy here look and run ugly =/. and not only that... 8k for a stock style car its not lowered, wheeled up etc so yeah 240 is not a cheap way to go if u want it to look good. its just as expensive as any other car: 300zx, rx7 3rd gen, whatever.

anyway enough nonsense im just like many of you guys working hard maybe day and night, going to school full time, supporting family and hoping for a day we have a nice ride

drifter for life yeah im with u s13 love. s14s parked next to say supras look pathetic i like cars that stand out no matter what its parked next to.

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funny I thought about this today... I was wondering about it, i guess some are trying to say is that the fender from a kouki is direct bolt on, and the hood... the question is will the headlights just drop in and can you use the existing zenki bumper? i just hate my headlights.. cant see **** at night, i think the projectors on the kouki will work much better.

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Torso wrote:Yes, you can use the Zenki corners and the Kouki headlamps together, you can use the Kouki hood as well, or modify the Zenki hood as shown here on an S13 Hatch. As for the bracket question..no clue

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Hmmm, so if you keep your corners and fenders, you could do a kouki conversion using only the hood and headlights (and maybe brackets). I actually like the look.I would consider this just for the headlights. Like neokouki said, the kouki lights are just nicer (projectors!!). I think you would need to modify either bumper cause no bumper would fit the kouki headlights and zenki corners.

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the headlights just wont drop in, you need to buy the headlight brackets. u need a kouki bumper, grill, lights, fenders and hood so you have a clean flow. kouki parts will bolt in, just that you need to change the headlight bracket and your set.

a stock zenki 240sx SE is hott!!! i guess even with stock lip make it lots hotter compare to the base model. a lowered zenki SE is better and with a nice set of staggered wheels make it looks bad ***.

a us kouki 240sx se with stock side skirts looks decent. with the optional lip, its nice. lower it and it will look better, and add nice wheels it would look a lot sleeker!

imo, stock us zenki se > stock us kouki front. jdm stock kouki > us 240sx. jdm zenki sideskirts > kouki sideskirts. jdm kouki rear bumper > all zenki/240sx rear bumper.

imo, the zenki front brings more of a musclecar look and the the kouki front makes it a sleeker look.

ps i would be more than happy for a stock s14 240sx se with vlsd, performance wise, its not powerful enough, but the handling is great. i choose control over speed any day! performance > form. i would rather spend more money to my 240sx than buying a newer car or the other cars that was mentioned. 8k+ for a car and in the end, you will mod it anyways and more money down the drain. i choose individuality and personal preference. i could have gotten an m3, g35 or 350z and it will look stock for so many years, well not really maybe change the wheels and thats about it.

the last gen supra is the hotness! but 20g+ for a decent n/a AUTO. hehehe i'll invest my money elsewhere.

if only the zenki's comes with projectors, then i am happy... glass headlights is the hotness too!!!!

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Fug it...

Kouki conversion = new paint

Zenki love!!!

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Kouki are the hottest. Only reason Zenki owners say otherwise is cause they couldnt afford newer Kouki.! (Putting on fire-retardent suit for all the flaming I'm about to receive)

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zenki vs. kouki is like us s13 people with hatch vs. coupe

it shall never end

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either way any 240 to me is the same i still need like 3-5k to make it look jdm. any rps13 fastbacks, s13 coupe, zenki 14, kouki 14s. so it doesnt really matter to me. for the 8k i could buy a what 97-98 US 14 id rather buy a 89 pig nose rip all the body parts besides the rear bumper apart. and go jdm. put nice 3 inch lip wheels with perfect offset, get a paint job and even lower that sucker. rather than have some goofy looking stock 240

yeah zenki vs kouki is like hatch vs coupe. i dont having any as long as its done jdm. its like how they can charge 27-what 40k+ for a brand new 350z when basically the brembo brakes are !@#$. i understand the navi being expensive but the rest is just dumb. rather buy the low end and pick up a hks 6 speed transmission over the crap they give and want to charge what 3k for. car +mods > stock car with same engine/peformance


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