Zenki to Kouki conversion

[hannibal]

Kouki are the hottest. Only reason Zenki owners say otherwise is cause they couldnt afford newer Kouki.! (Putting on fire-retardent suit for all the flaming I'm about to receive)

Zenki's are the hotness. Kouki owners say otherwise cause they paid $2000-3000 more and they got the same car with nicer headlights...

[_neokeoki]

this thread got hi-jacked... the question was about what you needed to convert from zenki to kouki...not zenki vs kouki... identical cars with minor changes... thanks for the actual help from the ones who wanted to help...

[yoozef]

Well thank you all, it's quite entertaining... As for my project s14.4 i guess i'll have to wait till summer. Zenki Love for now...

[yoozef]

S13 with Zenki fenders and corners and Kouki Lights? Looks nice

[gabossie]

You think so? You and I clearly have different tastes. I thought that looked pretty horrible, especially with the zenki corners w/ the kouki headlights. Talk about a confused 240.

[hannibal]

this thread got hi-jacked... the question was about what you needed to convert from zenki to kouki...not zenki vs kouki... identical cars with minor changes... thanks for the actual help from the ones who wanted to help...

I'm sorry... SEARCH

[_neokeoki]

SEARCH?

[hannibal]

Yes, search! ---->

[2s4x0]

OK the headlight competition between zenki and kouki is old now....But what about the taillights. You zenki owners know koukis taillights look betterlol

[PantherRacer]

zenki><KoukiCoupe><Hatch

Nissan> Mitsubishi Toyota Subaru >Hyundai Daewoo Suzuki >honda

end of argument lolol

[j-z]

the zenki flows as a complete looking piece of art. while on the other hand, the kouki doesnt. end of story! zenki>kouki

[Dirtylou]

I can live with that.lol

[_neokeoki]

the zenki flows as a complete looking piece of art. while on the other hand, the kouki doesnt. end of story! zenki>kouki

what kind of wheels do you have on your car?

[yoozef]

You think so? You and I clearly have different tastes. I thought that looked pretty horrible, especially with the zenki corners w/ the kouki headlights. Talk about a confused 240.

Actually the front doesn't look that bad, unless you look at it from the side...

[KDashy]

IF any of you have seen a kouki S14 front end in real life (or closeup pics). it has a crease going from the headlight to the turn signal, to the fender.

Just putting on the headlights and hood on a zenki, cuts off that line at the headlights. I proably dont imagine it looking that fantastic.

Edit: I envy Zenki owners for your yellow projector foglights.

[Chimera]

yeah zenki vs kouki is like hatch vs coupe. i dont having any as long as its done jdm. its like how they can charge 27-what 40k+ for a brand new 350z when basically the brembo brakes are !@#$. i understand the navi being expensive but the rest is just dumb. rather buy the low end and pick up a hks 6 speed transmission over the crap they give and want to charge what 3k for. car +mods > stock car with same engine/peformance

haha this maybe an old post, but you just proved yourself a total RICER.All JDM, please!? jdm is nothing but bodykits, you can get the turbos here, but since they arent JDM they arent worth it?the best part was when you said car + mods > stock car with same performance, now that right there takes the cake, signs of a true ricer, bodykits/neon lights/fart cannon exhaust/jdm this jdm that in other words YOU juujai.

[jchilders04]

haha BURN!i'm done.

s13>all.

[vvaffle]

s13>all.

Truer words were never spoken, or written.

[Megadeth]

haha this maybe an old post, but you just proved yourself a total RICER.All JDM, please!? jdm is nothing but bodykits, you can get the turbos here, but since they arent JDM they arent worth it?the best part was when you said car + mods > stock car with same performance, now that right there takes the cake, signs of a true ricer, bodykits/neon lights/fart cannon exhaust/jdm this jdm that in other words YOU juujai.

So what you're saying is that anybody who takes a good economy car and dumps money into it to make it as fast as high performance stock car is a "RICER". They should just go out and buy a Mustang GT, Supra, or a Camaro. That comes down to a matter of taste in cars or personal preference. Some people don't like the cars that I listed and would rather push there 4 banger to the limits of performance mods.

What FYRAMS said can go hand and hand about Toyota Supras. Thus making him a hypocrite. There are Supras out there that have broken a 1,000hp, but how much money and mods did those people throw into there car? A lot!!!! That makes them no better than the economy suped up "RICER" guy.

[Juujai]

sorry but i never mentioned body kits, neon lights, fart or anything youve listed. ive simply stated that the original japanese 180sx/s14s looked way better stock wise than in US. maybe you didnt understand that?

car+mods > "can be" better than stock car for sure its all about preference.if youre 0-60 or 1/4mi whatever you "care" so much about240 with ka-t or sr with some bolt ons could probably rock a lot of the more expensive "stock" sports cars such as the 350z, supra, mustang gt whatever. and it can go the same way a 350z built with a twinturbo kit or some sort of induction could probably take on some more expensive sports cars also "stock". are all these guys doing this ricers? does a car need to have a certain hp requirement for you or something?

sorry if you hate on hondas so much i used to too. maybe you should open your eyes and see different cars have different characteristics and racing is not about having a lot of hp/good handling etc its about having fun in the track. its not all about street racing/drag... either way in race cars most people strip it down to nothing and replace a lot of the suspension, upgrade their brakes and do heavy tuning on the engine anyway.

whats wrong with liking stuff made in japan anyway. you always see guys with japanese wheels, 180sx turning signals etc its all preference. whats wrong with some of the stuff made in the US you have "apc" and all of the goodies. you dont have to hate so hard atleast i dont go cheap on my performance parts.

some people become brand loyal like me. after buying lots of things from certain sources we become a loyal customer in that case i prefer stuff made in japan atleast i tend to get a quality product. kind of like how people like to buy made in USA tools like craftsman and etc...

maybe you just dont understand what ricer means theyre the ones on forums that go "i want a 240 and im going to buy an ESSArtwenty i have 10k what can i do to my car and what 1/4mi times am i going to be getting, im going to be a drift monster!!!" or the ones you see make no sense when they talk/type. "that intercooler is really big (pointing to the radiator).
Modified by Juujai at 2:40 AM 3/9/2005

[eds13]

If you do convert your zenki to kouki I'll take your headlights.

[Chimera]

What FYRAMS said can go hand and hand about Toyota Supras. Thus making him a hypocrite. There are Supras out there that have broken a 1,000hp, but how much money and mods did those people throw into there car? A lot!!!! That makes them no better than the economy suped up "RICER" guy.

the pic by fyrarms was to add spice to what im saying. Juujai says if u cant do JDM you shouldnt do it at all, can you believe that, that to me is a sign of a total RICER , JDM this JDM that, if u like JDM so much why dont you move there and quit hating on the cars that are out here, if you think about it the faster cars are out here in the US, Japan is a small country with not many open roads vs here where i can take a drive and in less than 5 mins im already on a freeway.he also says its better to buy a cheap car and mod it to perform as much as the stock car, well if you do think about it the stock car is still under warranty and if anything breaks on the modded (most likely illegal car) he'll be strapped for cash.

i find it funny how people like juujai try so hard to make their cars look like they came from japan, who besides yourself are you trying to impress?Nopi Tuner Vision viewers?

1: i dont hate hondas, that pic was an example of what you said "cheap modded car > stock performance car" well no ****, now put a little money into the stock performance car and you just beat the modded cheap car and you have still have the everyday creature comforts that new cars have today.

2: fixing up a supra to me is worth more than fixing up a 4 banger that you want to see its limits, you dont have to swap engines, and its already fast compared to our sluggish truck engines. & makes more power. Someone who fixes up a supra in my eyes and many PERFORMANCE CAR enthusiasts are not considered RICERs simply at the fact that they chose a SPORTS/PERFORMANCE and not AN ECONOMY/SPORTS COUPE. Obviously it can be rice when it has the ugly body kit to fit it.

3: as far as quality products go you like to buy jdm, in other words jdm bodykits, i cant see anything else besides body kits when i think of JDM, i know i have missed the critical parts (engine, turbo, trans, suspension) but when i think of all JDM first thing that pops into my head are the bodykits and the wheels.

im expecting a response juujai

[Chimera]

and please no body is hating so hard, why not post pics of your ALL OUT JDM CAR?since our cars arent good enough unless its TOTAL JDM.

[xyoufailmex]

Why dont people just do what they want, gah.. Be original, do an S13 Silvia front on a S14 or something if you want to impress people.. No matter what you do, you're not gonna be the first, so do what you think looks best. I went Sileighty on my S13. Ok, so what there might be alot already, but mine is unique because its mine. I have to drive it everyday. I have to look at it everytime i go to the garage, and Im the one who dropped the bills for it. Have the same mentality.

[Juujai]

it's not about making my car look like it came from japan it's just i prefer the look of the original japanese car. i like the side skirts, kouki tail lights, bumper etc. i mean if it were all available in the US i'd actually get em but its not. if you would honestly look at the lines on the car what the aero parts do for it you'll notice it looks so much hotter also.

he also says its better to buy a cheap car and mod it to perform as much as the stock car, well if you do think about it the stock car is still under warranty and if anything breaks on the modded (most likely illegal car) he'll be strapped for cash.

um i think you make the decision to do what you want to a car and not regret it afterwards. you have to have the money to play dont you? think about it you buy a supra and u mess it up? theres 15-30k down the drain easily. you buy a 240 and you mess it up youre only down anwhere from 1-8k maybe. you know once youre on the track anything can happen. even professional drivers crash tons of cars so thats why choosing a car that you can afford is important. i mean i''d buy a supra or whatever too if i can afford a mass load of them. just look at it i dont know why youre complaining about why some cars are capable and some arent. even people on the track dont drive with 1000hp supras all you get is lag.

i find it funny how people like juujai try so hard to make their cars look like they came from japan, who besides yourself are you trying to impress?Nopi Tuner Vision viewers?

tell that to everyone that bought kouki taillights on this forum and see what happens. we aren't impressing anyone but ourselves. it's like a good solid paint job a lot of people dont paint their cars to impress anyone but themselves.

2. why do you insist on any car thats not big on hp is not a capable car? a car has it's characteristics man. who said you wont need to swa pengines lol. either way if you're a serious racer not a ricer then you wont heavily modify a car without even driving it will you? most guys with heavily modified cars actually race them and end up swapping multiple engines. a car is not made to perfection out of the factory man. a 2jz can run you anywhere from 4-10k do you think we can afford that? not only that almost everypart made for the supra is a big amount more than the 4 bangers for instance look at the headlight prices.... and check out how much the body panels cost vs the classified on this forum i think if you hate on 4 bangers so much you should just leave this forum and stick with your supra forum. that is all

3. maybe thats your problem if thats what pops up to your in your head when you hear jdm.

[GEO]

Did someone call the lip crew?

[Juujai]

thanks for covering me geo. dont know why i even need to argue with him anymore.

he has a lip, eyelids, fog lights and a grill on the middle car. is there anything wrong with his preference? no. are you going to call him a ricer? i dont know maybe

so whats wrong with jdm aero? i dont see anything wrong with it.
Modified by Juujai at 11:59 AM 3/9/2005

[Chimera]

either way any 240 to me is the same i still need like 3-5k to make it look jdm

now the funny part is i read your comments and i just dont get it, i never said anything about 1000hp supras? but i want to say that since yes you do buy a cheap *** car and build it up, but in the end its still that cheap *** car, remember you cannot polish turd. im pretty sure all these guys with fast cars considered having a cheap as hell ****box before they bought a REAL performance car.

for the price that i bought my 240, i could have bought 3 s13's, but i didnt buy it because to me it doesnt look nice, if you were to go out and do a survey the public doesnt really like the look of the older 240 models, infact most of the late 80s, early 90s cars (including US & euro) were ugly. Some were more performance oriented but still ugly, you can say some are purpose built BUT the old 240sx (s13) werent purpose built except to be a cheap affordable sports coupe.

SO you only bought JDM taillights? then i was wrong from the start, first you said if you were to do it you would go all out JDM, but all you have are the JDM tailights or did i miss something?

ANd the most guys with HEAVILY modded cars race them, dont race 240's over built:MustangsPorsches240ZM3sie PERFORMANCE CARS

and last time i checked rebuilding a supra 2jz motor is A HELLUVA LOT CHEAPER than buying a sr20det front clip and the work that requires to put that stuff together. the money you spent making your car even run with stock performance cars are what FRYARMS said ungodly. also im not even going to compare a stock 240 motor vs a stock supra motor, no **** you can fix up the 240 motor but it wont handle much HP like the supra does and thats where the engine swap or engine rebuild option comes to play.

and please, i wont leave this site until i get 240s and s15s out of my system.

[Chimera]

GEO, can a '97 kouki 240 join your lip krew?

[Juujai]

it's all down to what you prefer. and as ive said before its not about hp......... even porsches, mustangs, and m3s dont turn like butter compared to a lot of the cheap cars out there.

for the price that i bought my 240, i could have bought 3 s13's, but i didnt buy it because to me it doesnt look nice (see thats preference right there) you put more money into another car because you like the looks of it whats wrong with that? what if i like the look of the s13 with original aero parts 10x more than i like the looks of the s14? is there somethign wrong with that?

of course i went all jdm lol. but i dont think you know what all jdm means? not all cars have a billion parts you need to get basically on the 240 its just exterior thats it. excluding engine.

ANd the most guys with HEAVILY modded cars race them, dont race 240's over built:MustangsPorsches240ZM3sie PERFORMANCE CARS

i already said most serious racers crash their cars maybe multiple times. do you think we have 50-60k to invest in another m3 everytime we mess it up? oh yeah and how is a stock m3 a performance car its basically a 3 series with european aero bigger engine/beefier suspension. why cant we do that with the 240 ourselves and call it the m240 or something lol. anything that comes out of the factory is not at its highest potential anyway. same with the lancer look at it they put beefier suspension, brakes, reclinable racing seats, better engine, some ugly aero and call it the evo. think outside the box. just because some cars are cheap production doesnt mean its crappy

you may be able to rebuild a stock 2jz but do you seriously think racing a supra is cheaper than racing say the 240? either way youre going to get an engine swap after a couple rebuilds. of course like i say again its not about hp....
Modified by Juujai at 12:27 PM 3/9/2005