Y'all know fast so...

[TheClevelandSound]

Im asking u. I own a Nissan Versa (yes wrong forum) but i am trying to build the ulitmate race machine and most of the guys in the Versa forum are more focused on efficiency (no offense to them).

So heres the bad stuff...i only have a 4 cylinder, a small turbo...and a small hood.

The good stuff...all-season performance tires, tuned up suspension.

I want to know how big of an engine my V can fit, how much a bigger turbo will cost, and any other suggestions to make my V as fast as possible.

Since u all prolly own my dream car, the skyline, i will respect ur opinions excessively.

Here are some pics of my car:http://www.nissanversa.org/gal...shtml

[BMAR240SX]

[Encryptshun]

You are 16. You work at Wendy's. You have previously stated that you didn't have the money to buy window decals except off ebay. And you are "trying to build the ultimate race machine" out of -- a Versa?

[themadscientist]

My wife drives a Tiida, you have no chance in hell, stop now before you break your toy.

[srpowered240sx]

wow. in the skyline forum no less.

[BMAR240SX]

An exhuast and a intake thats as far as i suspect your getting. You bought a eco car not a sports save your money

[themadscientist]

Hey I want to convert my Skyline to an electric motor and power it with solar panels, cool?

[BMAR240SX]

Thats not a bad idea, talk about cheap on gas too.

[themadscientist]

That's why I picked the Skyline as the car to use because I am all about fuel economy.

[S13Teddy]

good luck with buying those $3k solar panels though...

[themadscientist]

where can I get one of those Mr. Fusion things, 1000hp on bannana peels and egg shells!

[j35us]

Don't flame him, I bought my 240 for offroading

[TheClevelandSound]

You are 16. You work at Wendy's. You have previously stated that you didn't have the money to buy window decals except off ebay. And you are "trying to build the ultimate race machine" out of -- a Versa?

Do I know u?

And um y are u guys bein d!ck...ur all worthless if u cant respect on another.

[themadscientist]

you have picked possibly the worst chassis ever to build a performance car. You definitely have the vibe of a guy with big dreams and no skills to make them happen. What did you expect?I am one of the most friendly supportive guys here for weird projects but I have to draw the line somewhere, you showed me where the line is, I was wondering.Unless you are some extremely talented chassis designer with a fully equipped shop you can hang it up. Judging by the fact that you seem unable to install your new E-bay neon kit zerothread/284329 you would seem to be out of your depth here. Very far out of your depth. Perhaps getting proficient at an oil change to start with them move on to building a one-off race car, hmmmm?

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

Wow this thread is a failure of epic proportions!

Skyline forum...o0o0o0o 4 M0ar P0wa! Skyline owners are Gods. If they told me to drive off a cliff, I would!

Oops I dropped my .02 on the floor...

I own a Nissan Versa (yes wrong forum) but i am trying to build the ulitmate race machine

You should have bought a Honda. Seriously. Making your Versa into the ultimate race machine? A FWD economy car? Hahahahaha you're too funny. You know why the other Versa owners are focused on efficiency? Because they aren't trying to make their car into something it's not.

(AKA they're not stupid.)

And um y are u guys bein d!ck...ur all worthless if u cant respect on another.

You came here for opinions and that's just what you got. If you can't handle internet criticism, then you're hopeless.

Come on man, let's be real here. A 16 y/o that works at Wendys wants to build the ultimate race machine? Out of a Versa? Seems a bit far-fetched... wait, no it IS far-fetched. Never hurts to dream, though. Will it ever be reality? I doubt it. It's an idea with a serious lack of money or knowledge to back it up. Save your money so you can buy a real sports car later down the road. You should be able to have one by the time you start college. In the meantime, read up on as much as you can. RESEARCH!

[TheClevelandSound]

U know what i hate the most about this forum...everyone treats me like dirt just because im sixteen. Well sorry.

[BOOMSHAKALAKA]

U know what i hate the most about this forum...everyone treats me like dirt just because im sixteen. Well sorry.

Nobody's treating you like dirt because you're 16. You're just not being logical.

They're being brutally honest. You just don't realize it because you're so caught up in this stupid fantasy of yours.

[srpowered240sx]

U know what i hate the most about this forum...everyone treats me like dirt just because im sixteen. Well sorry.

id make fun of a 60 year old if he came in here with the same statements as you. seriously, gain some knowledge about building cars, then pick a platform that fits your needs. dont buy a big wheel and ask how to set a land speed record.

[DanCouga]

you have picked possibly the worst chassis ever to build a performance car. You definitely have the vibe of a guy with big dreams and no skills to make them happen. What did you expect?I am one of the most friendly supportive guys here for weird projects but I have to draw the line somewhere, you showed me where the line is, I was wondering.Unless you are some extremely talented chassis designer with a fully equipped shop you can hang it up. Judging by the fact that you seem unable to install your new E-bay neon kit zerothread/284329 you would seem to be out of your depth here. Very far out of your depth. Perhaps getting proficient at an oil change to start with them move on to building a one-off race car, hmmmm?

TMS stole my words!

You started with the wrong base to your project. If you want to make a "race machine", stop sinking money into your versa and save and put it towards buying a better chassis.

While you are saving, read up on engines, transmissions, chassis, brakes, tires, suspension and how everything is affected by the other. Set your goal. Figure out what race you want to compete in. There isn't just one style of racing out there, if you didn't already know that. Read up on cars that have won those styles of races. Plan your design and budget and build your car to suit.

The reason you got ribbed so hard is because you came in and just wanted to add a bigger turbo and a bigger motor and never once considered anything like brakes, suspension, tires or the chassis OR A BUDGET. That and you've already made a name for yourself around the boards apparently.

Like I said, stop sinking money into a car trying to achieve an unreasonable goal. Read everything you can, figure out what you want to do and save up.

[Encryptshun]

Do I know u?

And um y are u guys bein d!ck...ur all worthless if u cant respect on another.

No, I don't know you. However, your profile zer...76063 says you are 16 and strongly implies, at least, that you work at Wendy's. Your other threads regarding your underglow neon and your window stickers gave the rest of the information I used in my reply. The point being that I wanted to know more (in this case about you) before I made any statement or asked any question, so I used the SEARCH tools on this site to get my answers.

I'm not hating on you or trying to be a d!ck. I was asking a question to be sure I understood you correctly, and for all the valid reasons previously stated. Maybe the Versa was a gift from your family or maybe you saved up and bought it yourself. It's a great DD -- good comfort, great gas mileage. But you aren't going to be able to make it a race car without basically rebuilding the entire car from the ground up. We get a lot of younger people on this forum who have grown up playing Need For Speed - type games and who honestly think every car is just a trip to the shop away from being a street beast. So we've become a bit jaded about it. We don't condone street racing here on NiCO, and we certainly don't condone taking a perfectly legitimate and functional daily driver and installing a bunch of bolt-ons which are, in the end, simply a huge waste of money.

We're trying to head you off at the pass. If you wanna put $30 grand into your Versa, you could do what you say you want to do with it. But other than the novelty, why would you want to? I still don't think you've answered that question.

[TheClevelandSound]

Well here is my answer...

I believe that whatever kind of car anyone has, they should be proud of it and do whatever they want with it.

I had a 1997 Toyota Camry, but it blew up, so my dad bought me the V. I want to race, so I have no choice but to supe up the V. Thats jsut the way it is.

If my dad would have done a little more research before buying me a car i wouldve ended up with a Dodge Caliber SRT4, 07 Mustang, or Altima Coupe.

So once again, sorry.

But i love my V, so its all good.

[frosti108]

well i dropped a treefiddy in my vee and now i smoke skylines all day on the pennsylvania turnpike

[Encryptshun]

I had a 1997 Toyota Camry, but it blew up,

How did it blow up? Were you racing it at the time?

so my dad bought me the V.

And your dad doesn't mind you taking a brand-new car that he most likely bought you because it was safe, reliable and efficient and not only absolutely voiding the warranty, but also potentially blowing it up or wrecking it?

I want to race, so I have no choice but to supe up the V. Thats jsut the way it is.

The choice you have is to save up some money of your own and buy a car with an engine pointing the correct direction, rear-wheel drive, and no longer in warranty to modify. Like, say...a 240SX? You can get one for like $600 - $1000.

If my dad would have done a little more research before buying me a car i wouldve ended up with a Dodge Caliber SRT4, 07 Mustang, or Altima Coupe.

That statement makes my rage go to 11. You typify EXACTLY the negative stereotype of kids your age. Holy sh*t, man -- I haven't heard a more "then let them eat cake" comment in a very long time, so congrats. You get the "Ungrateful a$$" of the day award. Tell you what, Your Majesty, why didn't you help him pick one out? Why don't you consider yourself lucky that "daddy" bought you a car in the first place and not throw his generosity in his face by messing up his gift? If you want to race, go buy your OWN f*cking car and donate your Versa to some less-fortunate kid who works two jobs plus going to school full time just to afford a POS beater needed to get him/her back and forth to work and school.

F*ck it. I was trying to be calm, but now I'm just f*cking done with you. DIAF.

[edthemanjp]

Well here is my answer...

I believe that whatever kind of car anyone has, they should be proud of it and do whatever they want with it.

I had a 1997 Toyota Camry, but it blew up, so my dad bought me the V. I want to race, so I have no choice but to supe up the V. Thats jsut the way it is.

If my dad would have done a little more research before buying me a car i wouldve ended up with a Dodge Caliber SRT4, 07 Mustang, or Altima Coupe.

So once again, sorry.

But i love my V, so its all good.

1+ what Encryptshun said.

I have an18 and 16 year old son, if this happened to me or I bet if your dad read this I'm hoping he'd realign your thinking because I sure would and I wish I could reach through this screen. Spoiled brat is you, you should make that your sign on name. I purchased a 240, KA,Auto trans, for my oldest son to use and he's off at college now and his brother will use the car to learn with.

You probably over revved the other car, ungrateful person that you are and its only a matter of time till you destroy your V. With the attitude you have you don't deserve a performance machine. I'd love to talk to your dad why don't you show him what you've been writing

[DanCouga]

So I read some of your previous posts to get an idea of what you have done to your car and my recommendation is DONT WORRY ABOUT GOING FAST!!!

I could tell you to drop a FWD SR in the car and redo all of the wiring with a full standalone and a 3076r, but you are still riding on steelies. That tells me you are going to have crap tires with a crap sidewall. It also leads me to believe you don't have any suspension work done.

If you are dead set on putting power down in the car, start at the bottom. Figure out how much power you want. Pick out a suspension setup for whatever race you are trying(you still haven't said so I am guessing you are a parking lot pimping kind of guy). Measure and see what wheels you can clear. Pick out your new wheels and tires. Measure for brakes. Upgrade your braking system(lines, pads, rotors, master cylinder, etc). Once you have looked at prices for all of this and realized you can't do it, start saving your money and find another car.

I could tell you thousands of ideas on used cars to build. Find an old 80s BMW 3 or 5 series and build it. But the truth is, you aren't going to listen to anything anyone says in any of these threads unless it is what you already wanted to hear.

[TheClevelandSound]

But i love my V, so its all good.

For some reason u ****s failed to see this.

[DanCouga]

But we are all well-read, likeable ****s.

[themadscientist]

steps of the new car guy.Young guys new to messing with cars and forum tactics usually follow a series of steps, let's take a look.

step 1kid has outlandish idea and tells everyone what he wants to do

step2others dissect and critique idea based on superior knowledge an experience usually with some harshness of course

step 3Akid takes information and works his idea some more, continues to build up knowledge base and skill sets so he can try to make his dream a reality

step 3Bkid gets pissy that people expect him to be in possession of any skills, funding etc before they will take him seriously and rather than try to attain said items chooses instead to have a little tantrum

step 4Akid makes project happen on some level and the skills an knowledge he gains he then offers to another young guy in his step 2

step 4Bmanagement gets tired of whiny hostile kid who probably doesn't know what to do with a **** if it were put in his face and bans his *** allowing him more free time to study the proper way to choke himself while jerking off to Import Tuner.

where do you see yourself in five years cleveland? visualize and post.

Oh wait you can't 4B

[Gold Digger]

This thread has run it's course...Locking it for reasons that are pretty obvious.

To the OP...

Calling other members a word with which you have used, is not a good way to build a good reputation in our little corner of the world. Take the criticism, learn from it and research what you are trying to accomplish. Things in this forum aren't handed to you like the car you drive was. Time to start thinking for yourself instead of depending on other people to do your work for you.

[AZhitman]

You kiss your mama with that filthy mouth?

I've a good mind to call your Daddy and show him this thread. Then again, it's his fault for not spending more time in the garage with you.

p.s. Don't go racing anything badder than a golf cart - You'll get pwnt.