Xentec HID Problem....HELP PLEASE!

[MattyJatz]

I'm super pissed...I hope there is an easy fix.

Alright, so I'm a compete newbie when it comes to installing HID kits but I thought I would give it a shot and order some "Xentec" 6000K Ultra Slim HIDs from "supervtek" on ebay. Paid about $80 shipped. Here's what my HIDs came in.

After opening up the box and checking everything out, the first thing I noticed was the ballast didn't say "Xentec" on them, even though they were in a Xentec box. You think these are really Xentec?

Could someone give me a hand maybe and tell me exactly what this connection below is used for?

I was unable to successfully install my HIDs because I think the douche bag on ebay sent me the wrong size. I ordered the H11 and the bulb housing says h11. I was able to get the bulbs to light up. However, the only way I was able to do this was if I plugged in the assembly in the above picture to the ballast, and then the prongs I plugged into the factory female power connection.

I'm trying to make sense with this but I know I'm going to confuse the hell out of people! I'm extremely frustrated lol and hope someone can help. I will add more pics

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Modified by MattyJatz at 12:15 AM 3/28/2009

Modified by MattyJatz at 12:17 AM 3/28/2009
Modified by MattyJatz at 12:17 AM 3/28/2009

[MattyJatz]

Also, does anyone know what this piece is called that came with my HID kit? I think this is the only thing I need replaced since it doesn't house my stock power connection properly. It appears to be to big....

[psi101101]

oo, buddy, they dont look like Xentecs to me..the ballast SHOULD say xentec on them ..

[Stryker617]

Those look just like the ones I got. The one cable plugs into the existing connector of the bulb on your car. The 2 prongs go in the holes. It's kinda iffy, but so far mine have been working. That then plugs into the ballast. The lights fit, just gotta work em in. I had the same set up. I'm guessing other did too. Lemme know if you need any more help.

[bina12834]

the wires on these

get plugged into the smaller side of these



youll know you have them the in the right way because youll feel them click and you wont be able to pull the wires back out. also make sure you put the positive and negative in the right sides(go out to your car and check the stock wiring plug that plugs into the headlight bulbs)

then the way to hook it all up is you plug the bulbs into the ballast the only possible way that you can(you cant screw this up). then one side of that wiring harness that came with the kit plugs into the ballast and the other end plugs into the stock wiring plug that went to your stock halogen H11 bulb. once you get that one plug onto the wires like i explained above, you really cant install the kit any other way besides the right way. its fool proof. but like i said just make sure you put the positive and negative wires on the right sides of that plug.

easiest way to make sure you get the positive and negative wires in the right sides is to take this plug out to your car (without the wires plugged into it) and plug it into the stock wiring plug that would go to the headlight bulb and see which side the positive and negative wires on on the stock plug.

easy as pie

[MattyJatz]

Alright, Bina. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate you helping me out on this. What you said is exactly what I attempted to do.

However, this connector: does not support my stock halogen plug properly. If you put this plastic housing side by side next to my stock halogen bulb, it's a hair bit longer and not as stubby looking as the halogen bulbs connector. I plugged in my halogen bulb again to feel how snug it plugged into the power connection and it clicked in. This unit needs a ton of pressure and actually looks like it expands the power connection housing just so it will fit, and it doesn't fit snug....sorry for this crazy description!

[MattyJatz]

Stryker, so you are saying you didn't use this?

If you didn't how are those prongs staying inside the holes in the power connection without falling out?

[SneakyFish]

i have the same kit and the same problem. except that the wire and plug that bina was talking about came put together already. do i need to use that wire and does it really need like 10 mins to fire up?

[MattyJatz]

Sneaky, your plug doesn't fit into your stock power housing?

[SneakyFish]

nope. its really annoying me!

[MattyJatz]

I don't think we will be finding a solution...what are you gonna do?

[rjdmmfl1]

OK, this is all really simple... 1st, regarding the Xentec on the ballast, you must remember, these are cheap &80 kits, all made in the same factory as 50 other kits, they all just slap a different name on the package. Regarding a &80 kit, you get what you paid for! (And I'm not dissing the kit, I have the xentecs in my wife's car and in my fog lights!

Regarding the little black plug, as bina stated, the red and black cords from the first picture go into the smaller end of the black plug. Sometimes, they put this on at the factory, sometimes they don't. regardless, what you should do is wait until you are ready to install the kit onto your car, look at the positive and negatrive wires on the factory plug, and then attach them accordingly.,

To the user that stated that the plug won't connect to the factory plug.... try turning the plug the other way. if you do this., be sure to take the metal prongs out of the black housing and reverse those also.

If anyone can't understand these basic instructions, then I would suugest you take these to a professional shop and have them do it before you set your car on fire.

Honestly though, this is a pretty simple thing to set up!

[MattyJatz]

RJ,

Thanks for the tips. Everything you stated I tried originally. The problem I was able to find out is that this was too big: I actually just finished installing my HIDs and they work. What I ended up having to do was shave down this black piece with a razor knife and sandpaper. They sent it too big. Shaving it down to look more like the original size worked. Unlike before, it wouldnt click into the power connector like the stock bulb did. Once I shaved it down it clicked it securely and worked fine. Sneaky you may want to try comparing that black piece to your stock bulb and look at the size difference because you will notice the aftermarket piece is wider and longer. Get some rough sand paper and a razor knife and work at it, it should fit. Also trim down the little piece at the top that allows it to click into the power connection. I'm so glad I was able to think of this idea and it actually worked! Thanks for everyone's help in trying to resolve my problem.

[SneakyFish]

wait so you HAVE to use the wire thing that bina was talking about? cant i just connect the ballasts directly to the harness wire since there the same plugs?

[MattyJatz]

I dont think that will work dude. I tried that at the beginning as well and it didnt work. I dont think it is meant to be plugged in like that. I think that's why they supply the pronged plug as well. Try shaving down that black insert piece and see if that works...

[SneakyFish]

god i hope shaving it works, cause if it doesnt then i dont know how im gonna return it. did you have to shave it alot?

[MattyJatz]

quite a bit, just look at your halogen bulb and compare it as best as you can.

[SneakyFish]

yea so i tried shaving it and either im not shaving it enough or it doesnt work. its really pissing me off! i thinking about just cutting the entire top piece off. you guys think that would work? hey matt does the piece that needs to be shaved click when you connect it to the harness?

[MattyJatz]

Keep shaving it down until it clicks. You may want to make the little notch on top a little thinner. Take a razor blade to both sides and that should help it click into the harness. It comes too wide.

[SneakyFish]

alright thanks for the help matt and everyone else that helped him

[Rob.Vegan]

I don't think you should have to shave anything, If they gave you the wrong setup they should replace it with something that fits.

I don't have xentecs and have only installed one set of HIDs with problems here and there but it just doesn't sound right to have to shave down something to fit.

[BlackNWhite]

Those parts that both of you are having trouble with the fitment, I never had a problem with it.

The reason I never had a problem with those parts is because I did my install using an HID relay kit. I'm assuming you guys are connecting them to your car with no relay protection. With the HID relay, you don't use these parts that are a problem for you, you use the connectors that come with the relay kit and those connections fit like a glove.

I got it for about 20 bucks shipped on ebay. Just type, "hid relay kit" and look for a seller that has NY in his name. I think it's like NYdirect or something.

[SneakyFish]

we are using the hid relay harness. its just that it doesnt fit into the cars harness cause its too wide and long

[MattyJatz]

Black,

I'm sure you are correct about what you said. I didn't order a relay harness. Sneaky, I'm not sure if you bought the exact same kit as mine because mine did not come with a relay harness, unless you ordered that separately.

Thanks for the tips Black.

[SneakyFish]

wait isnt the relay harness the wire that we needed to shave or am i just completely retarded and total misunderstood what it is?

[Stryker617]

Nope, no issues with mine. You want some pics? I could rip apart the car tomorrow and take some. The day after I installed them, it rained like hell here. Drive through puddles and everything, still working great! They haven't fallen out yet, but I also used electrical tape to tape them, just make sure they don't touch.

[BlackNWhite]

No Sneaky. The HID relay harness is a separate set of wires that you have to order. It protects your factory harness from getting fried incase water gets into your HIDs. It has it's own fuse that'll blow.

It's about 20 bucks shipped, and the connections that come with it bypass these connections that you are all having problems with.

[rjdmmfl1]

No Sneaky. The HID relay harness is a separate set of wires that you have to order. It protects your factory harness from getting fried incase water gets into your HIDs. It has it's own fuse that'll blow.

It's about 20 bucks shipped, and the connections that come with it bypass these connections that you are all having problems with.

also, the HID relay harness prvides a steady power source and will prevent misfiring/flickering that can occur without the harness...

I have the Xentecs on my fog lights, and without the HID relay, although I don't have misfiring, I DO have a slight issue with my HIDs flickering

[SneakyFish]

thanks for the clear up blacknwhite and rjdmmfl1. hey stryker if you wouldnt mind taking some pics, that'd be great.

[Stryker617]

Sure, I'll try to get some tonight if I can. It's raining here again, and still no issues with the lights.