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Post by **r34 gtr** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

didnt really like it, they, as usual, didnt have a single part for the ca18det.

Post by **gh0st** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

teh ca18det is in SCC. and says its a good engine.

Post by **mrniceguy715** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

In oklahoma city 240sxs are everywhere and the prices already went up about a grand in the last year. but there are a lot of all the nissans where I live I have a z31 and an s13 and there are like 12 240s and 7 300zxs in the two neiborhood radius at least

Post by **r34 gtr** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

yeah, sport compact car seems to cover the ca more. i dont recall seeing a ca in super street. ever. i am probably mistaken though. i just wish they'd list parts for something other than the sr. there are a lot more engines than that.

Post by **Jookmasta** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

well it was only a matter of time till our secret was discovered. plus the drifting scene didnt help to keep our car under wraps. its good that we might get a boost in parts but as u can already see, it can hurt us. (im referring to the increase in price for the agxs for our cars)

Post by **kansas240** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

i just wish the article in scc was never written. sr swap is getting thrown around, and the cost is going up for parts. my little brother has caught the bug, he wants a 240 and he saves every ebay and news paper ad for me to "judge " if its a good car or not. at least he hates civics. the prices are going up for s14s but steady for 13s. unless i've totally missed something.

Website · Post by **drifter** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

KA is a great engine.

KAT-T is an even SEXXXIIIIEEERRRRR engine...and I would go that route too, but $$$$ seems to be an issue with me.....

Plus I would do it on a lower-mileaged KA

Post by **MasterMan** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

Stee Flo wrote:I hate the term "truck engine".:rolleyes You can tell whos been reading superstreet and SCC when they use that term. The KA gets bashed alot in those mags; they dont give it its due credit. Our cars make more power stock than alot of sport compact cars out there. It also has alot of potential when you turbo it correctly. Show some respect please.

KA is an awsome engine, a guy in my car club is building it up.. it will be done in a week or so.. low compresson set up, with a turbo.. and alot of other stuff.. it will put out over 300HP.. gonna be a nasty car

Post by **93semax** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

I don't see why you guys praise the KA. IMO the S chassis and the KA is the worst mismatch in NNA history.

Anyway, does anyone know how/why the magazine craze with 240's/silvia's started? Why did SCC decide to do an article on chris may's car and the sr swap?In CarCraft (a domestic mag) they always featured Chevy articles. They recieved a lot of angry letters about that and later on they featured a few mags with just Mopar articles.Did anyone write SCC or SS about the honda only articles? If you did, you opened the floodgates and it aint closing...

Post by **Lsnaple** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

i dont see why you say its the worst mismatch. sure it would be better to have the stock turbo motors in them here, but the ka has plenty of potential, and torque!

Post by **AJ-SPEC** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

It's a horrible mismatch because the engine does not produce enough power to work the chasis to it's potential. that makes for a well handling but poorly balanced car, which is exactly the way the US manufacurers want it. no one to face the other way in oncoming traffic (spinout). check out the article in import tuner, I think it's called the G2 factor, or something to that effect. it's by chris Harrington, on a 96 s14.

In defense of the KA, It's kinda growing on me. it's not that bad of an engine, it just lacks power. But I've got too many miles on mine to turbo it, and I haven't heard of anyone KA-T that hasn't blown their motor at least once. there might be, but too many horror stories for only 300hp (unless you're rich) and too many daily driven 350hp+ sr's.

Post by **Stee Flo** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

AJ-SPEC wrote:It's a horrible mismatch because the engine does not produce enough power to work the chasis to it's potential. that makes for a well handling but poorly balanced car, which is exactly the way the US manufacurers want it.

Ah you forget that they also came with the sr20de as well which was roughly about the same power as the ka is. They would have not made that available had the chassis not worked with it as well. Not all 180s and silvias in japan where turbo. Even the turbo ones stock werent mad powerful; 205 stock aint super.

Post by **180fan** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

I don't like the recent surge in popularity of the 240sx either. The other day when I was passing by a local grocery store, I saw a red coupe with blue street glows on the back most pillar, rims, and clear turn signals. I also saw some now appearing around local "ricer" hangouts. Truly a sad day and my heart sinks whenever I see crap like that.

But back to the mismatch, I think it's alright. The suspension handles and that was actually the selling point for me. Obscene amounts of power isn't really necessary for drifts or for autox so why the issue on the slightly underpowered engine unless you plan on doing alot of drag? Sure Japan had the turbo. Don't get me wrong, I would have wanted the SR20DET too but that's what we got. Just gotta deal with it.

Post by **AJ-SPEC** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

Stee Flo wrote:Ah you forget that they also came with the sr20de as well which was roughly about the same power as the ka is. They would have not made that available had the chassis not worked with it as well. Not all 180s and silvias in japan where turbo. Even the turbo ones stock werent mad powerful; 205 stock aint super.

You're right, I DID forget about that... But isn't carrying around ridiculous amts of hp fun? hehe, and I doubt if anyone leaves the sr stock, doesn't take a whole lot to make it pretty quick. my eclipse started with 210 also. you should have seen what intake/exhaust/dp/boost controller did to that bastard, w/o spending over $1500. :ylsuper

Post by **drifter sx** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

i agree with many of you guys. i knew it had to happen sooner or later, but i guess i never wanted to believe it. when i read the issue i could already see all the ricers in thire ugly a$$ 240s talkin their usual ignorance about cars. SS is just a teenie pop magazine that will squirm its way into anything thats making a scene right now. and with the mega-surgance of drifting and the like, of course they weren't gonna miss out on it. either way, im not gonna let it get me down, i still know my car kicks a$$ and it always had, BEFORE SS said to go and buy one

Website · Post by **cpt276** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

The increase in popularity has started awhile ago...meaning several years ago. The increase in popularity will only push vendors to carry a supply of parts for the growing "fad." Several years ago when the swap was still relatively new, it would have been a bit more difficult to find/get replacement parts, or aftermarket parts, if you unfortunately broke something. Now that there is a big following, it is now easier to get replacement parts for the sr motor, as well as wider range of aftermarket support.

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

I started wanting a 240 when I happened to stumble apon one when in the 10th grade (hatch). They looked like a probe yet so much cooler. It grew from there. Now I am a sophmore in college and still love the cars no matter what jerk off with an apc sticker and a wing do to their car.

Post by **RyanT** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

s14's are real hard to find.. i see alot more s13's for sale the s14 but since the 240 is rare and there not like a common car (civic) the scene will always be controlled so that it doesnt become to crazy.. u guys think the same..

Post by **96_S14_SE** » Wed Jul 30, 2003 9:52 am

AJ-SPEC wrote:and I haven't heard of anyone KA-T that hasn't blown their motor at least once. there might be, but too many horror stories for only 300hp (unless you're rich) and too many daily driven 350hp+ sr's.

Look a bit deeper and you will find daily driven KA's on stock internals running 350 down.

Its about tuning an NA engine to work with forced induction. It takes a bit more skill and finesse to do it in this manner and extract every hp out of the stock block with out grenading it. Taking a forced induction motor and tuning it for more forced induction power on its stock internals designed from the factory for forced induction is the simple way...

The KA-T guys are the more tinker / tuning, DIY crew of s-chassis enthusiasts. Dont get me wrong there are a vast amount of proficient SR tuners, its just that there are more tuners and DIY installs per KA-T in the KA-T camp, then there are per SR in the SR camp... I hope I was able to convey that correctly.

The KA-T will always be the least travled route, as the media follows the trends thus reinforcing them, and the media hates the KA but loves the SR.

Edit: yeah it was like hide and go seek, or a treasure hunt, to find parts back in 97 when I got my liscence and my first s-chassis... Actually kind of fun in an irritating kind of way

The craze has been around for years now, and its not going away. I just accept the fact I cant change anything but my own actions, and dont worry about it.

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