Wiper Maintenance and RainX Application

[PB]

I noticed since day one when i first purchased the car that when it rains,My passenger side wiper at the very end smears the windsheild.I really didnt worry because i thought it was just road grime,but now that its winter i see it will not clear 1 to 2" of the end of the windsheild.Then i noticed if you look at the bend in the outside windsheild where the wiper sits,The wiper doesnt even touch the form of the windshield about 1" from the end,So i stopped off at the dealer to ask for an other one, since i only have less the 4600km on the car they should replace it,They said , thats no problem,He came back form parts and said ,they dont have one in stock .A dealer have no wiper? LOL.So i said what size does it list?,He said it was a 14" wiper.By the sounds of that, its a rare size.So i went out to walmart and noticed all their wipers had no 14" except rainX.So then i went to canadian tire and they had no 14" either ,The dealer said 14".So i just grabbed a 13" steel wiper.I Installed it and works great,I also noticed that the very end was flush against the windshield to,So if the dealer or factory are putting 14" wipers on ,They dont form the windshield properly,I have noticed this and maybe should tell nissan about this,But hey what would i get out of it any way telling them that a 13" wiper works better on the windshield.

[jfanaselle]

My question is this - if it was just the last 1" of the OEM wiper that wasn't touching the windshield, then how did installing a 13" wiper that touches the whole thing fix this problem? Seems to me like the same 1" isn't being touched, you just don't notice it anymore since the wiper is smaller. I'm not trying to rip on you here... just trying to understand. I checked my wipers and the whole thing touches my windshield fine, so maybe the first one you had was defective or bent?

[KimberKenobi]

My question is this - if it was just the last 1" of the OEM wiper that wasn't touching the windshield, then how did installing a 13" wiper that touches the whole thing fix this problem? Seems to me like the same 1" isn't being touched, you just don't notice it anymore since the wiper is smaller. I'm not trying to rip on you here... just trying to understand. I checked my wipers and the whole thing touches my windshield fine, so maybe the first one you had was defective or bent?

x2

not had a problem with either of my long wipers... (I had it replaced b/c of the whole windshield adventure)

[WDRacing]

If you have an odd sized wiper, you can go a size up or down to facilitate easier maintenance and usually find cheaper options as well. Look at the wiper track and see if adding another inch is going to cause the wiper to interfere with the molding or the other wiper. If not, you're golden.

My Celica had an odd sized wiper that was like $12 more then the next size down. So I switched...

Using Rain X on the windshield will help the wipers life cycle as well, since it's a lot less friction.

WD

[PB]

The last 1" on the stock wiper did not touch the windshield correct,So i replaced it with a 13",Works ,Now i dont have to look at the smears from the stocker that does not touch,I looked at both wipers and sized them and they are the 1/4" difference in length,So really i will not notice that,canadian tire calls it a 13" i guess.

[PB]

Who

If you have an odd sized wiper, you can go a size up or down to facilitate easier maintenance and usually find cheaper options as well. Look at the wiper track and see if adding another inch is going to cause the wiper to interfere with the molding or the other wiper. If not, you're golden.

My Celica had an odd sized wiper that was like $12 more then the next size down. So I switched...

Using Rain X on the windshield will help the wipers life cycle as well, since it's a lot less friction.

WD

Who ever told you to use RainX on the windshield ? Did you do the same mistake applying this junk product ?This stuff got to be the biggest junk going,Every person i know of that used it,and thats many people complaining ,that you can never see out your winsdhield after using it,Then its the problem removing the stupid product,When it rains and you use your wipers you can not see, it smears and leaves a residue behind,RAINX makes the windshield so you cant see at all.The company should be closed up and charged for selling this CRAP.This is a saftey concern,and people should have this company charged.I would like to inspect all the cars that have been in accidents because of this crap on their windshield.

[WDRacing]

Thats the dumbest thing I've ever read. RainX works great, if applied correctly. It needs to be buffed off. But once it's applied correctly it works fantastic. I've been using it for years...

Whoever you got your info from is NOT using it correctly. Thats just simple fact right there. Don't bother posting anything else either, cause it would just be you making crap up with NO valid proof. Its like waxing the windows, if you apply the wax, guess what, you can't see. Thats cuz you have to remove it first...lol.

WD

[PB]

I have seen many people apply it the proper way,even according to Rainx instructions,I know two people that applied it while i watched,They let it sit on the window for a while then buffed it off with a microfiber cloth,Still when it rained both cars windshields were a mess when the wipers were going,I was in the passenger seat in one car looking at the haze through the glass,Yes what a mess.Then he tried to remove the crap with just about everything,And still wouldnt come off his glass,If you think its good use it.And why would I make up this story,I did not buy it,I did see the product in action and heard from other people other than these two people i am talking about,that it was junk also,So you say its crap that i am telling you,,Do i have to drag all the owners that used it on to this forum to prove my point.i am just telling you what i heard from many people and what i have seen.So the many people a good 20-30 at least all applied it wrong Ya right.I like to add,I just did a quick search in google ,and you can read more of problems with the product from users.http://www.lexusownersclub.co.....html

http://www.benzworld.org/forum....html

http://www.epinions.com/review...87716

http://www.classadrivers.com/p....html

This is from your local Nicoclub forums,Check Matttail comments on the bottom of the page.

zerothread/283024

Modified by PB at 9:20 PM 12/9/2007
Modified by PB at 9:29 PM 12/9/2007

[XterraVersa]

RainX is the greatest invention ever. I have used it since it came out & it makes a huge difference. I also use the RainX washer fluid. The mag chloride they use here doesn't stick & wipes clean without using the washer fluid, unlike the work vehicles I use.

Snow does stick either & scraping the windshield is a breeze compaired to the untreated side widows.

But back on topic... I have noticed the same thing with the wipers. The last 3-4 inches of motion, the wiper doesn't touch the window for ~1". I don't care about it since it is a spot on the windshield I don't look out very often.

I will have to compliment Nissan for their selection of wiper compound. 1 1/2 years, 2 blizzards, 10+ snow storms, countless rain storms, the stock wiper are still going strong in dry sunny Denver. Maybe the RainX has something to do with it.

[07Vsdn]

did YOU read your own links? there were more positive remarks than negative...

some of the quotes from your links:

http://www.lexusownersclub.co.....html

"RainX is great!"

"I think its pretty good. don't need to use wipers above 40 ish mph. only problem is you've gotta keep putting it on every nown and again "

"Rain-X is great on motorcycle helmet visors."

"I've used Rain-X for several years on the front windscreen - and used wipers & screenwash - with no real problems."

"I have been using RainX for about 10 years now on a range of cars - its one of the first things I do when I get a car."

http://www.benzworld.org/forum....html

"Rain X and similar products make your w/s hydrophobic and do the EXACT opposite. The rain will sheet, improving visability and even eliminating the need for wipers at times! These products are now being applied by some OEMs to the front door windows to improve visibility."

http://www.epinions.com/review...87716

this is a review for rain-x anti-fog.... relevance?

http://www.classadrivers.com/p....html

"I have used it on my car winsdshield with no problem"

"I put it on all my windows and mirrors. The only problem I notice is that when it wears out to the point you need to use the wipers, they leave a black mark where the wiper stops and heads back the other way. "

"Rain-x hasn't hurt my windshield/ wipers that I can detect..."

"I have never had a problem using Rain-X and most of the people I have talked to who have had problems it is because of not applying to correctly."

"I use it on my personal cars."

"Rain X works just fine.... "

"I've used it on my car the tip is to clean it with alcohol to cut the old film off. It works great then."

"Rain X is a good product."

zerothread/283024

again, comment was about rain-x anti-fog. not relevant...

[WDRacing]

Thanks for taking the time to quote all those. I was starting to read through but I get upset quickly when it comes to people not understanding simple concepts. So sometimes it's best if I don't reply at all...lol.

I have seen many people apply it the proper way,even according to Rainx instructions,I know two people that applied it while i watched,They let it sit on the window for a while then buffed it off with a microfiber cloth,Still when it rained both cars windshields were a mess when the wipers were going,

Here's the exact method I use for application. I want you to seriously attempt this using my method. I can't possibly see how you could feel it doesn't work once you see what and how it works when applied correctly.

You're going to need a roll of paper towels and 2 terry cloth towels, or the towel of your choice for product removal.

1, I clean the windshield with InvisiGlass (best thing ever, no streaks).

2, To apply the product, either poor the RainX onto the paper towel, or spray it on depending on what version of the product you have.

3, Use the first paper towel with the RainX on one side of the windshield. To apply the product you need to use over lapping circles like you're buffing wax. If you notice dirt and grime on the towel it's OK. The alcohol in the RainX is breaking down some of the filth on the window that the cleaners have left behind.

4, Repeat this procedure for the other side of the windshield with a clean paper towel.

5, If you want to insure total coverage, repeat this entire process by applying the RainX directly over the previously treated windshield. This product does NOT buildup. So there are no worries about using to much. In fact, with RainX, to much is just enough

6, Allow the product to cure/dry for about 10/15 minutes.

7, Now, take a clean towel and buff one side of the windshield. You'll notice the product smears around and hazes up, but does not come off. This is actually what you want to have happen. Now do the other side of the window with either a clean towel or a clean section of the current towel you're using. I use two small towels or one large one. Terry cloth, micro fiber and even paper towels will work for the entire process. I found the terry cloth works best.

8, Go back to the side you buffed to a haze first, and rebuff the window with a clean towel. Repeat this procedure as many times as it takes to remove the haze from the window. I usually have to do each side 3 times, possibly going over certain sections that require a little more buffing then the rest of the windshield.

Notes: Once treated the product will usually last 2-3 months depending on climate and weather. I use the above process on ALL of the windows on ALL of my cars. When on long trips it's especially nice since bug splatter and road grime come right off at the service station.

[Vahagn23]

my original wipers smear the whole windshield for about 5 seconds and then the windshield dires up, but its horrible cant drive in rain

[PB]

did YOU read your own links? there were more positive remarks than negative...

some of the quotes from your links:

"RainX is great!"

"I think its pretty good. don't need to use wipers above 40 ish mph. only problem is you've gotta keep putting it on every nown and again "

"Rain-X is great on motorcycle helmet visors."

"I've used Rain-X for several years on the front windscreen - and used wipers & screenwash - with no real problems."

"I have been using RainX for about 10 years now on a range of cars - its one of the first things I do when I get a car."

"Rain X and similar products make your w/s hydrophobic and do the EXACT opposite. The rain will sheet, improving visability and even eliminating the need for wipers at times! These products are now being applied by some OEMs to the front door windows to improve visibility."

this is a review for rain-x anti-fog.... relevance?

"I have used it on my car winsdshield with no problem"

"I put it on all my windows and mirrors. The only problem I notice is that when it wears out to the point you need to use the wipers, they leave a black mark where the wiper stops and heads back the other way. "

"Rain-x hasn't hurt my windshield/ wipers that I can detect..."

"I have never had a problem using Rain-X and most of the people I have talked to who have had problems it is because of not applying to correctly."

"I use it on my personal cars."

"Rain X works just fine.... "

"I've used it on my car the tip is to clean it with alcohol to cut the old film off. It works great then."

"Rain X is a good product."

again, comment was about rain-x anti-fog. not relevant...

When I review a product,I read the bad comments of the product,I dont have to read the BS comments,Have you ever heard of members joining different sites to push products?,These are mainly users that are on forums to do more sales for the manufacture,They get paid to sign up on every forum they can to push their product,So dont read all the good remarks of a product, you read the bad ones.If you join a site where there is paid product pushers or members that support products you will see what i am telling you,Join and start complaining about certain products,You will soon see someone jump in ,and say you are full of BS or you are a troll.Happens all the time.and then different workers on the forum will all start piling up on you.They all work together pushing this same product.So all the remarks in the links i gave you about rainx being Great ,i wouldnt believe them.They are probably forum workers.

[Ever Victorious]

When I review a product,I read the bad comments of the product,I dont have to read the BS comments,Have you ever heard of members joining different sites to push products?,These are mainly users that are on forums to do more sales for the manufacture,They get paid to sign up on every forum they can to push their product,So dont read all the good remarks of a product, you read the bad ones.If you join a site where there is paid product pushers or members that support products you will see what i am telling you,Join and start complaining about certain products,You will soon see someone jump in ,and say you are full of BS or you are a troll.Happens all the time.and then different workers on the forum will all start piling up on you.They all work together pushing this same product.So all the remarks in the links i gave you about rainx being Great ,i wouldnt believe them.They are probably forum workers.

There's something wrong with you.

Seriously.

I suppose that if I said that Rain-X was a great product, you'd accuse *ME* of being a paid worker.

Wait, wait wait... that must mean that NY.AD.MAN is being paid by Tanabe! Because he's said he likes his springs like what, twice? Man, what a sellout.

Wait... you like your Versa. How much is Nissan paying you? Fess up, man!

[bikeman]

When I review a product,I read the bad comments of the product,I dont have to read the BS comments,Have you ever heard of members joining different sites to push products?,These are mainly users that are on forums to do more sales for the manufacture,They get paid to sign up on every forum they can to push their product,So dont read all the good remarks of a product, you read the bad ones.If you join a site where there is paid product pushers or members that support products you will see what i am telling you,Join and start complaining about certain products,You will soon see someone jump in ,and say you are full of BS or you are a troll.Happens all the time.and then different workers on the forum will all start piling up on you.They all work together pushing this same product.So all the remarks in the links i gave you about rainx being Great ,i wouldnt believe them.They are probably forum workers.

WOW! How can you process any information with that brick wall starring at you? My sympathies.

David

[WDRacing]

Wait... you like your Versa. How much is Nissan paying you? Fess up, man!

HAHAHAHAHA, I just pee'd a little

[0wn3r]

There's something wrong with you.

Seriously.

Yeah, PB you're really suffering from paranoia.

http://www.google.com/search?h...anoia

However, I have to admit I LOVED RainX at first. As I kept using it, I liked it less and less.

Maybe it's because I bought cheap wipers, but it seemed that the chemical ate my wipers and started leaving rubber lines in random spots where my wiper would be fully extended.

That, and it's difficult to use at low speeds and misty conditions because using the wipers with the RainX causes excess wax to be scraped off causing the wax-like residue to appear. In my book, it's not "hazey", but having my attention focused on how well the RainX is working and whether or not to use the wipers became a distraction for me.

Using good wipers on a plain, clean windshield works great.

I haven't heard too many good things about the blue bottle of RainX windshield additive though, but at the same time I never looked for reviews.
Modified by 0wn3r at 12:17 AM 12/12/2007

[WDRacing]

Yeah, 07Vsdn you're really suffering from paranoia.

http://www.google.com/search?h...anoia

However, I have to admit I LOVED RainX at first. As I kept using it, I liked it less and less.

Maybe it's because I bought cheap wipers, but it seemed that the chemical ate my wipers and started leaving rubber lines in random spots where my wiper would be fully extended.

That, and it's difficult to use at low speeds and misty conditions because using the wipers with the RainX causes excess wax to be scraped off causing the wax-like residue to appear. In my book, it's not "hazey", but having my attention focused on how well the RainX is working and whether or not to use the wipers became a distraction for me.

Using good wipers on a plain, clean windshield works great.

I haven't heard too many good things about the blue bottle of RainX windshield additive though, but at the same time I never looked for reviews.

Try just using paste wax...anything cheap will work. Doesn't last as long, but it's easier to apply and remove.

I also suffer from the "wiper control" issue. Except it's the same even when I don't use the RainX. That slight difference between one delay setting and the next is just not quite right...lol.

As far as wiper go, you can take some 160grit sand paper and run it down the wiper blade edge a few times and they will be as good as new. I also buy cheap wiper blades

[KimberKenobi]

Yeah, 07Vsdn you're really suffering from paranoia.

can we get a correction here... you meant PB, right?

[07Vsdn]

When I review a product,I read the bad comments of the product,I dont have to read the BS comments,Have you ever heard of members joining different sites to push products?,These are mainly users that are on forums to do more sales for the manufacture,They get paid to sign up on every forum they can to push their product,So dont read all the good remarks of a product, you read the bad ones.If you join a site where there is paid product pushers or members that support products you will see what i am telling you,Join and start complaining about certain products,You will soon see someone jump in ,and say you are full of BS or you are a troll.Happens all the time.and then different workers on the forum will all start piling up on you.They all work together pushing this same product.So all the remarks in the links i gave you about rainx being Great ,i wouldnt believe them.They are probably forum workers.

your reasoning is incomplete.

if you argue that you do not read positive comments about products because the companies that make those products pay people to say good things about them...

well, then it would also make sense to argue that you should not read the negative comments about products because of the companies that compete with that product pay people to say bad things about them.

thus, anything anyone says about any product can not be trusted as they are likely being paid to say what they are saying... good OR bad!

[07Vsdn]

can we get a correction here... you meant PB, right?

he's not talking about me! i don't suffer from paranoia i enjoy it! (see above!)

[KimberKenobi]

he's not talking about me! i don't suffer from paranoia i enjoy it! (see above!)

but that is sound logic... remember when the electric cars came out and oil/car companies were putting ads/editorials about how bad electric cars were for the environment...

[WDRacing]

Wait...so I can't trust anything ANYONE says...ever. Wow...that is going to makes thing way harder.

[KimberKenobi]

welcome to my life (I spend my days interviewing felons...)

[WDRacing]

Yeah but anything is a felony thses days.

[0wn3r]

yea, PB you don't seem trust the dealer, you don't trust anyone online... hmmf.
Modified by 0wn3r at 9:45 AM 12/13/2007

[KimberKenobi]

Yeah but anything is a felony thses days.

(so should your bad spelling ;oD)How many felons (or actually anybody) who says "I just want to be honest with you" are actually being 100% honest and not 'minimizing' or down-right lying through their teeth? (or gums, this is the Commonwealth of Kentucky...)

[WDRacing]

(so should your bad spelling ;oD)How many felons (or actually anybody) who says "I just want to be honest with you" are actually being 100% honest and not 'minimizing' or down-right lying through their teeth? (or gums, this is the Commonwealth of Kentucky...)

I broke both of my hands when I wrecked my Quad racing two weeks ago. One hand has pins all through it and stitches where a bone punched through the skin. So I'm just picking at keys here. I usually hit sp ck...lol.

Over the handlebars at 60mph is no joke

But it's ok to pick on me when I'm down

[KimberKenobi]

there, there. I'm sure you'd pick on someone else when they're down too ;oD

... in my defense I couldn't have known. ;oP

[Ever Victorious]

PB?

yea, vsdn you don't seem trust the dealer, you don't trust anyone online... hmmf.

Go back and re-read the thread, and pay careful attention to usernames.

PB is the user who is the "paranoid" one, 07vsdn is agreeing with the rest of us.

Kimber was asking you to correct yourself when referring to the users.