Winter Storm NEMO

[ImStricken06]

FIRST, I WISH EVERYONE A SAFE DRIVE, IF ANYONE GOES OUT. PLEASE STAY SAFE, AND BE SMART.
(i will be available on here, as i most often am, if anyone has questions or issues they wanna discuss or need advice on)

Did anyone do anything special to their Rogues to prepare?
I lowered my tire pressure to 30psi(down by about 5psi)

I know that lowering tire pressures will increase the tires' foot-print, thus increasing the tires' chance of hydroplaning at higher speeds by acting like a moving surfboard on water, but i want the extra bite from dead-stops and any acceleration from very slow speeds. Furthermore, keeping the tire slightly deflated will keep it more flexible (which increases the rubbers temps) and decreases the chances of a tire freezing and hardening to the point where it will loose traction due to the tread being so rock hard. Keeping the tires a tad more flexible will increase its ability to grip onto the snow, versus just slide past it(skid)


-be safe everyone.

Keywords: snow, storm, driving, experience, test, stuck, awd, all wheel drive, lock,

[JMed]

I did nothing to my Rogue, since I have no plans on going out until Nemo is gone...

Those of you that do go out, be careful and safe...

[followingnfront]

I thought about my tire pressure, but didn't touch it... With my 18's the specified tire pressure is 38PSI all the way around. I haven't done anything to prep the car...

I went to college 30 mins away from Syracuse, so in the winter we got SNOOWWW... I learned how to get through it in my FWD Dodge Intrepid, and then the Honda Accord, so driving my AWD Rogue today was a breeze! The car gripped amazingly! I mean, going up a steep hill, starting from a complete stop in the middle of the hill, there was absolutely no slippage... Even without using the AWD lock... I felt almost too confident while driving because on the highway I was passing other SUVs lol...

But yeah I haven't done anything, and I'm driving to Delaware tomorrow...

My R Vinyl for the door sills came in today so that would be one way of prepping the car, but the car is all snowy and salty so I don't want to JUST clean the door sills and apply that... I figure I'll wash the entire car before doing that.... But yeah.

Here is a pic at the store about 2 hours ago:

[darylzero]

Stay safe out there or as the captain from Hill Street Blues always said, "Let's be careful out there"

Take some pics of your Rogues going through the 2'-3' of snow

[followingnfront]

Sitting in my house bored... I just cut the pieces of clear vinyl for my door sills and I'm going to go out to the garage and clean off my door sills really good and apply the vinyl... My way of prepping.

[minibus4]

Dont know why the concept of driving on snow is such a hard thing for people to grasp. Just drive like youre trying to get the best mpg you can basically. Be light on the gas and brake, double the amount of time of the vehicle ahead of you( 5 seconds for studded tires, 8+ for non studded tires with icy conditions), and decrease your speed 10-15 mph below the speed limit. Also, if youre tires spin out, applying more gas is only going to make the problem worse for you and every other driver that goes on that patch of road. Deflating your tires will only help if youre going through deep snow, like 5"+, or as a last ditch effort to get your car out a ditch. Otherwise, keep your tires inflated normally. When you leave your car out and it gets a lot of snow then make sure to not only clear off your windows but also the roof. If you dont clear the mass amount of snow on your roof then you will get an avalanche of snow all coming down on your windshield when you make a stop, caused by the raised roof temp from driving.
It's interesting to see how the lower 48 freaks out to just a little bit of snow and wind(nothing special where I live). Im sure all you have the common sense on how to drive in "bad" conditions but you never be too safe by staying home. You'r main safety hazard will be the idiots with front wheel drive smaller cars or 2wd "Brotrucks"(or any vehicle really) that think they can drive just as stupidly as they can in the Summer and refuse to be cautious.

[Qashqai]

You'r main safety hazard will be the idiots with front wheel drive smaller cars [...] that think they can drive just as stupidly as they can in the Summer and refuse to be cautious.

I met with one yesterday...Fits the exact description: A small car with front wheel drive, slide for "50 meters"(as the driver said) before they hit me on the red lights..and as you can see the roads, it wasn't summer!

[JMed]

Are you OK? How fast was the person going that the car slide 50 meters? not 50 feet?

[ImStricken06]

oh man, sQash... your just not having any luck! i hope your ok. i will be on here a tad later, just wanted to check in with everyone

[zengshengliu]

I just want to say something related to snow
People, please, if you have time, clean the snow off the root of the car
I saw a car with 2" of snow on top if it, and when it make a stop, all the snow on the root slide down to the from windshield.
This is danger situation, especially if you are driving at speed, cause it block the entire view.
Good that that person is in the from of the traffic and was slowing down for red light so no one get hurt.

[Rogue One]

Dude, talking from personal experience, make sure you get a thorough medical exam. Were you alone? If you suffered any kind of injury, it may take a day or two to become evident.

I'd say you're looking at a good 5 grand to fix your ride, while they may total the offenders vehicle.

slide for "50 meters"(as the driver said) before they hit me on the red lights

So this guy allegedly slid nearly 55 yards? And did he mention this in front of the authorities?

[followingnfront]

Damn dude. Sorry to hear that!

[Rogue One]

Winter storm Nemo is setting snowfall records, some places have 38 inches of snow!

To all our Fans & Friends in the North East, Stay Safe! http://www.bikerspost.com/

[ImStricken06]

i hope someone measure or at least estimated or logged the distance of the skid-marks. from my experience in accident reconstruction; the vehicles weight, and the distance it traveled- that can predict the vehicles speed at the point the brakes were applied. if the person was hauling a**, then that weighs much more on the pain aspect. because insurances are gonna wanna deny any medical claims immediately.

take R1's advice and talk to a lawyer/doctor. im going through a lot of pain right now. was a bouncer at a night club and a HUGE brawl broke out. after fighting it out with a large/drunk patron, and taking him down to the grown- i tore my shoulder. looking at surgery. guess what- workman's comp is trying to attach to anything just to deny my claims. im still in pain(hence why i cant do much to the cars/bikes. some days are worse than others)

[followingnfront]

i hope someone measure or at least estimated or logged the distance of the skid-marks. from my experience in accident reconstruction; the vehicles weight, and the distance it traveled- that can predict the vehicles speed at the point the brakes were applied. if the person was hauling a**, then that weighs much more on the pain aspect. because insurances are gonna wanna deny any medical claims immediately.

take R1's advice and talk to a lawyer/doctor. im going through a lot of pain right now. was a bouncer at a night club and a HUGE brawl broke out. after fighting it out with a large/drunk patron, and taking him down to the grown- i tore my shoulder. looking at surgery. guess what- workman's comp is trying to attach to anything just to deny my claims. im still in pain(hence why i cant do much to the cars/bikes. some days are worse than others)

Workers comp sucks. Im on workers comp right now

[Rogue One]

i hope someone measure or at least estimated or logged the distance of the skid-marks. from my experience in accident reconstruction; the vehicles weight, and the distance it traveled- that can predict the vehicles speed at the point the brakes were applied. if the person was hauling a**, then that weighs much more on the pain aspect. because insurances are gonna wanna deny any medical claims immediately.

take R1's advice and talk to a lawyer/doctor. im going through a lot of pain right now. was a bouncer at a night club and a HUGE brawl broke out. after fighting it out with a large/drunk patron, and taking him down to the grown- i tore my shoulder. looking at surgery. guess what- workman's comp is trying to attach to anything just to deny my claims. im still in pain(hence why i cant do much to the cars/bikes. some days are worse than others)

IDK if ther's as an event data recorder in the other driver's vehicle, but I'm fairly certain it's standard on our Rogue's. This will provide some useful data.

I T-boned a kid who ran a blind intersection back in '91, and declined to go to hospital (tough guy wearing my seat belt). Next day, entire right arm swelled up like a balloon. Over 20 years later I still have to deal with the whiplash, pinched nerve, etc. See a professional ASAP.

Got to go to work, will post more later.

[followingnfront]

The "black box"? I didnt know our Rogues had the "black box"! I dont like things like that... And no, Im 99% sure that Scion doesnt have one.

[Rogue One]

The "black box"? I didnt know our Rogues had the "black box"! I dont like things like that... And no, Im 99% sure that Scion doesnt have one.

Ok, @ work using my Sony tablet so I'm limited. First, don't go into end times panic mode, as they're mostly benign and activate to collect data during an accident, being triggered by a collision. There are other onboard systems that record stuff, But that's primarily for system performance and maintenance.

[darylzero]

That sucks Qashqai. Hope you are ok.

[darylzero]

The "black box"? I didnt know our Rogues had the "black box"! I dont like things like that... And no, Im 99% sure that Scion doesnt have one.

Most cars have had EDR's for awhile now. 96% of 2013 models have EDR's.

Our Rogue does have one. From csuvs.com

This vehicle is equipped with an Event Data Recorder (EDR). The main purpose of an EDR is to record, in certain crash or near crash-like situations, such as an air bag deployment or hitting a road obstacle, data that will assist in understanding how a vehicle’s systems performed.

The EDR is designed to record data related to vehicle dynamics and safety systems for a short period of time, typically 30 seconds or less. The EDR in this vehicle is designed to record such data as:
- How various systems in your vehicle were operating;
- Whether or not the driver and passenger safety belts were buckled/fastened;
- How far (if at all) the driver was depressing the accelerator and/or brake pedal; and,
- How fast the vehicle was traveling.
- Sounds are not recorded.

These data can help provide a better understanding of the circumstances in which crashes and injuries occur.

NOTE: EDR data are recorded by your vehicle only if a nontrivial crash situation occurs; no data are recorded by the EDR under normal driving conditions and no personal data (e.g. name, gender, age and crash location) are recorded.

However, other parties, such as law enforcement, could combine the EDR data with the type of personally identifying data routinely acquired during a crash investigation.

To read data recorded by an EDR, special equipment is required and access to the vehicle or the EDR is needed. In addition to the vehicle manufacturer and NISSAN dealer, other parties, such as law enforcement, that have the special equipment, can read the information if they have access to the vehicle or the EDR. EDR data will only be accessed with the consent of the vehicle owner or lessee or as otherwise required or permitted by law.

[followingnfront]

The "black box"? I didnt know our Rogues had the "black box"! I dont like things like that... And no, Im 99% sure that Scion doesnt have one.

Ok, @ work using my Sony tablet so I'm limited. First, don't go into end times panic mode, as they're mostly benign and activate to collect data during an accident, being triggered by a collision. There are other onboard systems that record stuff, But that's primarily for system performance and maintenance.

I know what its used for.... And I dont like it. No end times panic going on here... I dislike being monitored... Even in an accident. Its not the biggest deal in the world but it is excessive in my opinion. Just another way for insurance companies to stiff you and all-around too "big brothery" for my liking. I feel that Im entitled to that opinion.

[ImStricken06]

i wouldnt mind EDR's, as long as there would be laws on the books that govern who can access and when. if i accelerate to go around someone and reach 80mph(ny/nj highway standard) and 30seconds later im back down to 65 and an accident happens- i dont want anyone turning that around as me being aggressive and speeding- in a court of law.

[minibus4]

A little off topic but, if you have a dashcam, do you have to turn the footage into the insurance company in the case of an accident?

[ImStricken06]

A little off topic but, if you have a dashcam, do you have to turn the footage into the insurance company in the case of an accident?

only if they subpoena you and your evidence

[Qashqai]

Guys, thank you for your messages. Here I have really good friends, that's for sure.

I was with my wife. We are all fine, nothing serious. My wife has some little pain in the neck and shoulders. During weekend the physiotherapist and insurance company are both closed, but on Monday we will let insurance company know that and go to physiotherapist. I know the procedure, last year we got rear ended...

There were no skid marks left ImStricken, we waited for officers to come for nearly two hours and both cars were covered by 1-2 inches of snow.

On my "previous" rear ended collision, a Hyundai Sonata (of course heavier than a Yaris) hit us on dry road conditions. We don't have a hitch receiver at that time and:
-Ms. Qashai had a whiplash (took six months to fully recover)
-My seat rails were deformed and cause my seat to wobble
-Something inside my heat restraint was broken (the headrest was squeaking when I drove the car)
-They replaced the seat
Compared to the damage I have right now, it was a major accident. The road was covered with a thin layer of ice/snow, so after the impact, we slide forward. That, I think, reduces the impact on me and my wife. We have the trailer hitch as well which reduced the damage on my Rogue.

Here is my Rogue today:



(It is funny, the colour of the sky in this picture is amazing. It is ironic that my Rogue's best picture was taken after it got rear ended for the second time )

Anyway...on Monday, I will take my Rogue to the body shop and my wife to the physiotherapist...will be busy day.

I will let you know and share the numbers once they calculate the estimate.

I hope none of you experience such a thing. It is annoying. At least I stopped far away from the intersection, so we didn't t-boned by the coming traffic.

I love my Rogue, it saved our lives again...

[Leo2005]

@Qashqai. It's a minor accident and you will feel really bad about it if you simply replace the parts because the car already been throw the accident. I think it's a good news because it is time to modify the Rogue! If you never wanted to invest to modify your rogue it is time then. Get Krom conversion...at least for the back. Get Krom bumper and replace exhaust with dual pipes in the middle or just rewire the pipe.

[ImStricken06]

You cant have the krom edition with a hitch

[darylzero]

Qashqai don't worry your insurance won't go up. She hit you. At least here in the States the person who gets rear ended is NEVER at fault. Ok never say never but it's literally 99.9% not your fault.

We have the trailer hitch as well which reduced the damage on my Rogue.

Also, make sure the frame where the hitch bolts to is ok,

[Rogue One]

Qashqai don't worry your insurance won't go up. She hit you. At least here in the States the person who gets rear ended is NEVER at fault. Ok never say never but it's literally 99.9% not your fault.

We have the trailer hitch as well which reduced the damage on my Rogue.

Also, make sure the frame where the hitch bolts to is ok,

Well you're partially correct. If you stop suddenly for no apparent reason, then you're considered at fault and can even be charged.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/ ... 29535.html
Example

Bob was in a car accident in which he stopped short and was hit from behind. If the other person had been 100% at fault, Bob's medical bills and lost income would entitle him to $1,000. However, the police accident report notes that Bob stopped short because one of a group of children next to a school looked as if he was going to dart into the street. The insurance company for the person whose car hit Bob from behind points out that Bob should have been going slowly enough in the school area to be able to stop without having to slam on his brakes.

In this case, not going slowly enough may have made Bob about 10% negligent. Because of this, the person who hit him is not liable to Bob for the full compensation of $1,000, but for only $900 (100% liability minus Bob's 10% liability = 90% liability).

The Rear End Car Accident http://nylawthoughts.com/2011/04/26/the ... -accident/
Who Is Responsible in a Rear End Collision? http://www.ehow.com/info_12011239_respo ... ision.html

All that being said, I think you're fine, you weren't at fault, and you may want to remove the magnet that's pulling others into your rear end!

[ImStricken06]

just found a parking lot that had roughly 9inches of snow. the little kid in me couldnt help it.... i drove in LOL MS.ImStricken distracted me with some "curb!!" shriek and i slowed down. the rogue was stuck. i switched the VDC off, and actuated the AWD LOCK function. gently tested the throttle... no go. it just spun its tires. So i gave it some gas(about 75% throttle to the floor) and tires started spinning and digging- and guess what..... THE ROGUE GOT OUT, WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS!!!

as i exited the parking lot i looked back and saw the whole underside of the car slid across the snow. the snow was taller than the ground clearance of the car, and yet the rogue still got out. WOW were me and the Ms impressed total lapsed time: 30seconds.

after leaving i wished asked Ms. ImStricken to film it, but it was to late

(PS:there was no curb, she just shrieked "CURB" as an advice, in advance. no sexy-time for her today lololol/jk)