window tint violation

[lain]

LOL. Two years of law school, eh...

didnt know i was getting graded here..did you want me to fax you a copy of my transcripts?

[Ever Victorious]

didnt know i was getting graded here..did you want me to fax you a copy of my transcripts?

The more and more you post weird crap like this, particularly with your bragging about all you've done, the less we believe you.

So yes, I will call your bluff. Fax them to my email address.

Oh, and let's not forget... driving while stoned is no less illegal than driving while drunk. Actually, it's probably more so since the marijuana is illegal to begin with... unless you've managed to get glaucoma at such a tender young age.

[marleyfan]

Are you actually 22 lain? If so how is it that you entered law school at 20? Around here you need to complete your degree before starting law school. And I'm sure I have been "threw" lots in my 46 years. Wanna compare notes? (By the way....it's "through".... but spelling doesn't count in law school) I'll leave you alone now before EV gets mad at me........again. (Oh....I also have a Criminal Justice Diploma in addition to my Bachelors Degree....just for the record)

[XterraVersa]

lol i wasnt drinking i was stoned...and it wasnt another car or person it was a wall. and i barly hit it...i only took the clear coat off the paint...no dent or scratches...thats how close i was..barly. And I would never drive drunk drunk...maybe drunk...but drunk drunk your just looking to hit something. and try driving while tripping out on halucigens...that was stupid and I would never do that again...made it home safly tho...even tho i had to get on 2 freeways to get home.

You got to know the law if your going to break it.

Drinking, stoned, who cares, it was very stupid. Please grow up before you kill or hurt someone with your vehicle.

[KimberKenobi]

Kimber -

Well I have to say its not a LAW here in NJ. But as my trooper friends says, his Boss wants him to have a ticketable offense (or suspiction of) to pull someone over.

A jerk always get as many tickets as are obvious, someone nice may get a warning and or a defensible ticket. A cute crying girl may walk if it looks Real and is not an act. (a crying guy - needs to be arrrested)!

Yes, they need to have a ticketable offense in order to pull over (so they don't get harassment charges, like our friend Lain pointed out) {edit} This includes probable cause since they could have probable cause of a ticketable/citable offense but they still need to be able to show logical jumps in their progression... I just recently sat through a suppression hearing where the cop was informed by an anonymous woman of drugs in a car... He didn't know the woman, how she would know of the drugs, or her connection to the people... It was a rather iffy as to how the suppression hearing would go... {/edit}

No, they do not need to issue a ticket for every offense. Most cops pulling over for something 'minor' will let you go if you act like a reasonable human being. I was pulled over once for a headlight being out - no ticket. I honestly didn't know the bulb was out, I was on my way back home from work and stated that I would change the bulb in the morning. He let me go. (this was pre-badge for those of you who think about calling me on it) I sit around and discuss with deputies, troopers, and officers... If you get pulled over for something like a light out or speeding and the uniform believes that you may have been unaware of the infraction, you are likely to not get a ticket, or get a fix-it ticket. If you are a jerk, you'll just get the ticket - they won't be reasonable if you won't be. But I need to ask... what is a defensible ticket? Very rarely can you fight (or get dismissed) tickets... unless it is a situation similar to the start of this thread where you can prove that nothing is outside of DOT statutes. There is a rare case of speeding being dismissed because of cruise malfunction... but that is usually just amended down to improper equipment. Really, the way you can get off scott-free from a moving violation is if you also have a felony charge and the Commonwealth/State chooses not to indict you on the moving offense... rofl. (this is the end of me discussing this... everybody is entitled to their opinion/experience where the law is concerned, but I just wanted to add my thoughts on this.)

Yes, several guys we arrest cry... oh wait, that wasn't the statement... sorry.

Lain, did you ever get ticketed for your lack of a license plate being displayed on your vehicle?
Modified by KimberKenobi at 7:19 AM 2/7/2008

[Andrews Chalmers]

Let's not disparage lain's assertion that he attended law school for 2 years.

The ability to differentiate between "threw" and "through," "there" and "their," is not required for admission to a 4th tier institution.

Police officers can't conduct discretionary stops, see Delaware v. Prouse, 440 US 648 (1979). But they don't to have observed a ticket-able offense to pull you over. They just need probable cause or some sort of reason to pull you over under the plainview doctrine.

If the officer can testify and convince the trier of fact that a reasonable person observing what the officer observed, would find that by the greater weight of evidence that a crime or violation has been committed - they can pull you over.

The Supreme Court has affirmed on multiple times the notion that a vehicle enjoys a lower expectation of privacy.

Oh btw - police can impound your vehicle for "safe keeping" if there are legitimate concerns that pass the reasonableness threshold. If your vehicle gets impounded, police can conduct an "inventory exception" search if the department policy routinely inventories impounded vehicles for "inventory" reasons.

So please - go ahead and be a jerk when pulled over - you might just meet a police officer who went to law school and is willing to wear a dress uniform to testify in court. The officer may say that he observed you swerving within your own lane and that your vehicle speed was unsteady, and in his professional experience, these signs indicate that the driver may be under the influence.

Once stopped - the officer may search your vehicle if you give him probably cause that a weapon may be within reach.

It'll be your word against his when he claims you appeared to be reaching for your glove compartment. Oops - you just gave him probably cause to search your car and look what did he find?

Better hope there's no contraband.

[KimberKenobi]

oohh... you use such big words and make me tingle all over...

If you're 28... does that mean you have 8 years of law experience?(I poke because it's funny and if you can't laugh at yourself, then you don't need to put things up on the internet)

[Great White Versa]

When I first got my V one of the headlights wasn't plugged in. On my way home from work I got pulled over. The officer asked me if I knew that the headlight was out. I told him that I had just noticed it the day before and that I already had an appointment with the dealer to figure out why. He said, ok good, drive safely and have a good night.

Really, I think that he just wanted to make sure that I hadn't been drinking, as most drivers at 1am on the weekends here in Vegas have some amount of alcohol in them.

[bdu]

In general I'm quite nice to any cop who pulls me over, and it usually helps.

There *was* one time when I was slightly less than nice to one, because I knew the situation was BS... I'd squealed my tires a bit exiting a parking lot. The exit had a light, said light is usually quite short, I needed to go left, so I usually pull out fast, hit the speed limit, and hold it steady until I'm through the light. This was in my old car with pretty bald tires, so this maneuver usually resulted in some noise.

After doing this, he pulled me over, asked if I was in a hurry. I said no (because I wasn't), and asked if he thought I'd been speeding (because I knew I hadn't). He didn't reply to that, he just walked around my car, shined his flashlight in all my windows, then came back around to my window and said, "were you in a hurry to get through that light?" to which I replied an honest "Yes, but I'm sure I wasn't speeding, nor did I at any point deviate from my lane or lose control of the car". He just left me with a "be more careful next time" and that was that.

Clearly he was just using the noise as an excuse for a fishing exhibition.

But usually, and especially if I know I was in the wrong, I just politely do as I'm requested and act a little oblivious. Oh, and I keep one of the police fund donation stickers in my back window. Every little bit helps ;0)

[weems84]

I got pulled over for my window tint and my yellow headlights. texas law is 35% front any in back and 5" or the AS1 line for you front windsheild. However for annual vehicle inspection its 20% for front windows and the rest is the same as before. State trooper check my tint, it was of legal limit and let me off with a warning on my lights.

[jfanaselle]

Oh, and I keep one of the police fund donation stickers in my back window. Every little bit helps ;0)

LOL - I know it's off topic, but that reminds me of these bumper stickers that I saw on ebay a while back. They were stickers that you were supposed to stick on cars of people that you did not like. One of them said "Screw you, stupid cop!" It seems like a funny prank but could end up getting someone into alot of trouble. I remember that there was one that said "back off, biker trash." Imagine thinking, "why do all these bikers keep giving me the finger?"

BTW, when I used to be a fire fighter, I kept my structure helmet on the seat next to me. Never got a ticket despite being pulled over 6 or 7 times. Fringe benefit I guess.

[kaze0]

CAn't you just aget a firefighter license plate?

[jfanaselle]

You sure can, but it costs an additional $80 per year on your vehicle registration fee. My helmet was free (already issued to me!) and I liked to keep it on my seat anyway, in case I was suiting up next to my car really fast (driving up on a traffic collision or fire). It was always the easiest thing to walk away from the car and forget, because you'd be wearing a flash hood and didn't know if you had your helmet on or not. It was just alot easier to have it right on the seat.

Plus the no ticket benefit. BTW, I found some more of those stickers on ebay. They're actually magnets. Warning: Some of the things printed on them are offensive (but very funny to put on someone's car when they don't know!).http://cgi.ebay.com/8-REVENGE-...wItem

[KimberKenobi]

Those are awesome... I just laughed myself sick. If I could order one and have it get here before 6, I already know which one I'd put on Rodney's cruiser...