Will I get into the 12s?

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Okay, i've got the GT25R .86, tial 38mm wastegate, Hybrid FMIC, 3in downpipe, 3in testpipe, apex dual N1 exhaust.. Soon I'll have a SS tuned ECU and 740cc injectors. I'm on 245 Nitto Drag radials. At the max boost on pump gas (Cali) (probably 16psi) will I be able to most likely get into the 12s? I've been betting pretty hard that I would. I need 12s at LACR (2700ft). I hope to put down 320-330whp. I should be good, right? I ran a 13.9@102 at that track at 11psi on the T25. A dude was there a few weeks ago with a Big28@16psi running mid 13s.....

Post by **compression** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

You will be close. I guess a 12.99 is still a 12....

Post by **msaskin** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Well, 390rwhp (jay's car) was enough for an 11.8 @ 118, so go from there

I'd say you'll be fine. I'm aiming for 350rwhp w/ the same turbo and am shooting to break 11's on slicks.

~matt

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I'm shooting for 11s on slicks too. After get the head gasket, cams, etc. I think i'll do easy 12s with 330whp. But I just wanted to see if i'm right. If I ran high 13s with probably 220whp, it seems like I can run at least high 12s with an extra 100whp.

Post by **RMiller** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I desperately hope you do. With that power you could get into the 11's. Ex: A guy w/ an FD made ~410whp on stock turbos and ran a high 10. Several FDs are making under 400whp and are running 11s. I'm rooting for you, I'm guessing you'll run a 12.7. If I guess right do I win something?

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Sure, i'll send you a money order for $20 bux if you guess right.

Seriously.. Remember i'm at 2700ft though.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

It'll be a GT25R @16psi probably. 330whp

Post by **GTS4-R** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I'm aiming for 440-450rwhp....and ill still be barely gettin in those 11's with MT streets......no traction sux!I trapped at 98mph on street tires on stock boost (9psi) in the blazing heat with my timing WAY retarded (it was 3BTDC instead of 15btdc like is shoulda been.....).....when shes all done i shoul dsee 110mph on 10psi or so.....wonder what 21psi will get me....heh...i cant wait to crank my boost soon

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

390whp seems like it should be enough for 12s.. Maybe with some slicks/skinnies on racegas, but it seems like plenty of power. So you to think 320-330whp is enough for 12s?

I've had my turbo at 5psi, it was decent.. I think your turbo it a little bigger than mine. Plus you have the cams and stuff that I do not yet have.

Post by **msaskin** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

390whp will get you 11's with slicks. There's no reason it shouldn't, unless of course you can't drive

Work on the driving skills, that + traction are going to make or break your 1/4 mile times

~matt

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

ET Slicks + Racegas + ET fronts on skinnies + remove some seats hehe = 11s... I think at least. I better hit 11s. I'll spray a 50shot too if I can't. I NEED 11s!! No, I won't spray, that's gay. I'll just throw more boost at it. My life won't be complete if I don't eventually make a single 11 second pass in my 240.

Post by **JJ240** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Dont remember the name or anything but there was a guy with a gutted out hatch with a VLSD, slicks, dont remember what turbo, greddy intake manifold, cams, and all the other goodies with dynosheets showing 390hp and a 10.9X timeslip. Close to 400hp with traction will do it. Theres guys with foxbody mustangs where I live pulling high 10s with just under 400hp too. Putting the power to the ground is more important than having more power.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I'm sure i'd have to get my weight down to get into the 11s.. (speakers and stuff), but I think it can be done with my mods + fuel + cams + head gasket + greddy manifold... Should put me in the 380-390 range.. Which I think I can run 11s with.. Maybe i'm wrong.. But that's what I think

Post by **VitaminT** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

If you run that .86 turbo at 17-19psi you should be making 375+ with cams and a tune. I don't think you will have any problems getting into the mid-low 12s

BTW...has anyone heard that secretservices is not doing the rom tunes anymore?

Post by **JJ240** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I just remembered today...the car I spoke of was running a GT-RS factory fit upgrade turbo

Post by **DriftS14** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Scott from SS still does ROM tunes.

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I've run several 13.4's @ 105 on the T25 with 2.2 short times (thats a crappy short time)

I'm planning on running mid 12's with the S15 T28 and slicks. That sould be right around 300 RWHP.

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

i have a friend who had my sr before i bought it from him. he ran a 12.9 on 15psi, stock t25, conquest fmic, vlsd, slicks, and one cylinder half dead(same one i have thats still half dead:) ). wanna know how? sea level on a cool fall night. its kind of cool being at sea level.

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

not to take anything away from anybody on here but if you don't get into the 12s with that much power you need to learn how to drive. actually i've been very dissappointed with the times posted on this thread at the power levels posted. It is not easy to pilot these cars with a lot of power. It takes a lot of practice. Derek Greaser ran a 10.85 with 385 whp.

I ran 13.018 on the stock t25 making only 244whp. that was with vlsd and drag radials. Aubrey from this board ran a "traction limited" 12.3 with 325 whp.

Here is my timeslip..

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

f150intally wrote:not to take anything away from anybody on here but if you don't get into the 12s with that much power you need to learn how to drive. actually i've been very dissappointed with the times posted on this thread at the power levels posted. It is not easy to pilot these cars with a lot of power. It takes a lot of practice. Derek Greaser ran a 10.85 with 385 whp.

I ran 13.018 on the stock t25 making only 244whp. that was with vlsd and drag radials. Aubrey from this board ran a "traction limited" 12.3 with 325 whp.

Here is my timeslip..

Track conditions have a lot to do with it. I've heard of people running a LOT faster at Eastcoast tracks (i have no idea where you are), but I'm racing at 2700ft. Oh a track with a poor surface. But I want to run 12s HERE. So it'll require more power. Plus, i'm running a S14 with a typical 3050lbs. race weight. (if I can't run 12s with my subs it's no good). I'll play with the car more to run 11s but I want to run 12s with a *street* setup.

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

oh, o.k. i forgot you were at 2700 feet. that is pretty high. To the traction comment, the night i ran 13.01 was only the second night the track had been opened. my 1.84 60 ft time was decent for a brand new track but my next visit to the track i averaged 1.706 short times. all on the stock turbo.

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Let's put it this way, on my 245/50R16 Nitto drags, launching my [email protected] psi@6500rpm I was only able to turn a 2.11 60ft. My friend with a WRX launching at 5.5k was only able to get a 2.16 60ft.

Post by **DriftS14** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

I only have an 1/8 mi. track here so I can't comment on the 1/4 mi. times. The altitude at the track is 3400 Ft and I trap 84 mph at 14 psi and my best short time is 2.3 on street tires. I'm running 18 psi now and will be going to the track this Wednesday night. I'm hoping to get really low 8's on drag radials and open diff.

Post by **Altiman94** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

those 60 foot times look real good. What launch method are u using?

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

240SXer wrote:Let's put it this way, on my 245/50R16 Nitto drags, launching my [email protected] psi@6500rpm I was only able to turn a 2.11 60ft. My friend with a WRX launching at 5.5k was only able to get a 2.16 60ft.

wow, the wrx 60ft really puts it in perspective.

Post by **f150intally** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

thinking about this, maybe your track you run at has piss-poor track prep. Do they run NHRA events there at all?

60 ft times should just be better than that, especially running sticky tires.

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Yah our local track sucks for traction. 2.2 is the best i've gotten on street tires of course. I'm going to get some real slicks eventuially. I want to pull 1.9's. With that short time i would probibly be running low low 13's with my current setup Maybe even high 12's.

Post by **WhItES13** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

Hey Rob, when are you going to the track to try out your new setup?

Post by **240SXer** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

f150intally wrote:thinking about this, maybe your track you run at has piss-poor track prep. Do they run NHRA events there at all?

60 ft times should just be better than that, especially running sticky tires.

They do events all the time. We all just deal with the sucky track. Everyone complains, but eh.. Battle of the Imports is out here all the time...

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:03 am

WhItES13 wrote:Hey Rob, when are you going to the track to try out your new setup?

Not till i get the turbo bolted up and AEM comes out with their Standalone.

Will I get into the 12s?

Will I get into the 12s?

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