widebody info???

[cattrikk]

sry, but can somebody please explain how a widebody works? i have a 89 coupe i may want to widebody, depending on what type of mods are involved..for ex. do you cut the metal away from under the new rear quarters? heres a pic of what i would like to achieve:



so whats the quarter beneath doin? just hangin out in its entirety? i know this may be a stupid question...but i just gotta know how this works lol..thanks.

[Stev0n]

to fit a wheel/tire combo like that with that wide of a stance a decent little amount of the original quarter would have to be cut out

[Xdisaster240sX]

The quarters in that picture are custom I THINK. You could get over fender and rivet them on. Some people cut away the stock panels and some dont.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Don't do it unless you know for sure you have the funds/time to achieve it properly. There are countless people out there that just half a$$ it and end up having it look like crap. But when people do pull it off, it looks great.

[BrianHarte]

IF you put on overfenders and DON'T cut out the original fender, you are an idiot.

Original Poster seems to have a good head on his shoulders.

Most overfenders end up being rivited on.some mold them in.

yes you need to cut out part of the stock fender and "pinch" the metals together and weld it. Otherwise, you are just left with a hole between metal parts.

[joker350gt]

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what they said

[tank1]

i have a 150mm fenders in the back and just payed for some jline rims what offset should i get to make it look right

[ViolentRunning13]

^^^ HUH?! 150?!

[achikennugget38]

DAMMMM THAT CAR IS SIK

whats that b series stuff on it sorry for off topicc

[rico05]

I tried looking around on his blog, but more info on the car and converson can be found on here:http://www.sillbeer.com/

IIRC he cut the fenders (guards) and mounted/molded the overfenders.

[s13sillbeer]

Hi cattrikk

You're on the right track with regard the original rear quarters. The work was done by a professional, but essentially the original quarter panels were cut do there was a good clearance, then rejoined I believe. The new fibreglass wide body fender was then riveted and fibreglass moulded onto the original quarter, with the under fender area being also fibreglassed back up so there was no gap between original (cut) quarter and new quarter.

The fenders used were from M Sports (Wise Sports) in Japan and are 50mm wider than original quarter each side. Rims used on the rear are an 18x10.5+12 Weds Sport TC105N with 265/35R18 tyre. In the pic you've posted, I also had adjustable lower control arms, but I've now gone back to a standard set.

Any more questions, just ask.

CheersBrendan

[simmode1]

^^^ From the horse's mouth!

But whenever I meet ppl who tell me they want to run a widebody kit, I always have to ask 'Why?'

Naturally the answer should be "Too run wider wheels/tires!". That's what half of them say anyways.

Then I ask, "How wide of a wheel/tire setup you talking about? You know s13's can fit 10.5 inch wheels with 275 rubber out back on stock fenders, right?"

This info usually goes right over their heads and the conversation goes in a different direction. This isn't to look down on any widebody users, but I just don't think alot of ppl realize this is possible...

[Crazyirish]

But whenever I meet ppl who tell me they want to run a widebody kit, I always have to ask 'Why?'

In the case of silbeer, I would have to say: Cause it looks freakin sick! The Front fenders on an s13 are already nicely rounded, but the rears looks a little squarish. I've always like how wide fenders complimented the styling of an s13. Its something I would like to do myself one day.

[LoserCard]

^^^ From the horse's mouth!

But whenever I meet ppl who tell me they want to run a widebody kit, I always have to ask 'Why?'

Naturally the answer should be "Too run wider wheels/tires!". That's what half of them say anyways.

Then I ask, "How wide of a wheel/tire setup you talking about? You know s13's can fit 10.5 inch wheels with 275 rubber out back on stock fenders, right?"

This info usually goes right over their heads and the conversation goes in a different direction. This isn't to look down on any widebody users, but I just don't think alot of ppl realize this is possible...

Wow can they really fit that without wide body?

[simmode1]

In the case of silbeer, I would have to say: Cause it looks freakin sick! The Front fenders on an s13 are already nicely rounded, but the rears looks a little squarish. I've always like how wide fenders complimented the styling of an s13. Its something I would like to do myself one day.

'For the look' is the only thing that justifies all that hard work IMO. Either that or you're planning wheels wider that 10.5 inches w/ appropriate rubber...

Wow can they really fit that without wide body?

Sure. Broadfield did. And so have alot of guys in Zilvia's 'Maximum TIRE(Rubber) and Wheel fitment thread'. It's not all about offset, but front spacing and back spacing too. I don't understand all the details yet myself, but they are slowly but sure getting it down to a science fitting 255's up front and 275's out bact on stock s13 fenders. Even wider on s14's...

[SILVIAJayS]

It's not all about offset, but front spacing and back spacing too. I don't understand all the details yet myself...

Yeah, it's not all about inches, but millimeters and centimeters too.

[xX RB Xx]

in the op.. what does the spec b stand for?? ive seen it on multiple s13s and i have no idea what it stands for... sorry for the thread jack.

[tEknoS13]

in the op.. what does the spec b stand for?? ive seen it on multiple s13s and i have no idea what it stands for... sorry for the thread jack.

I'm sure he doesn't know either. Ask s13sillbeer its his car.

[cattrikk]

appreciate all the info guys. thanks! seems like a hell of a process....and i have to say, of course i want to run bigger wheels/tires, but widebodies definately compliment the coupe. IMO.

[s13sillbeer]

But whenever I meet ppl who tell me they want to run a widebody kit, I always have to ask 'Why?'

Naturally the answer should be "Too run wider wheels/tires!". That's what half of them say anyways.

Then I ask, "How wide of a wheel/tire setup you talking about? You know s13's can fit 10.5 inch wheels with 275 rubber out back on stock fenders, right?"

This info usually goes right over their heads and the conversation goes in a different direction. This isn't to look down on any widebody users, but I just don't think alot of ppl realize this is possible...

There are 2 reasons for me going wide body:

1) I've owned a couple of R32 GT-R's and really liked the way the body comes out over the wheel arches rather than straight down the line

2) I wanted to run wider rims, which is possible with a standard S13, but to use low offsets so you get the concave spoke look, they'll stick out from the guards a good 50mm at the rear and 30mm at the front. Thus the need for either overfenders or widebody guards. This of course also increases the cars track which certainly helps out with regards to handling performance. Also, you might be able to run a nice wide rim at the back on a standard guard, but not on the front. I'm running an 18x9.5+10 on the front and have only 5mm clearance to the coilover. Of course I have test fitted an 18x10+12 on the front an S13 before running the standard front strut, but you're going to get rubbing somewhere.

http://www.sillbeer.com/2004/0....html(Joel's 180SX had the standard front struts)

Oh, and as far as I know, only my car has 'Spec B' on it. I wanted a unique 'Spec' badge on it (as S15 has Spec S and Spec R), and my name starts with a B, so 'Spec B' it was. It stemmed from the build philosophy of a 'Factory Special' like Nismo's Z-Tune. Mine was just 'Spec B'.

CheersBrendan

[miracleboi123]

no dont cut away your body LOl, leave it, and go to AIT's website, if you want it widebody, go and get the d1 widebody fenders and they just overlap onto the existing oem fenders. job is done and dont go cheap for those ugly *** fender brows or w.e

[keith0486]

fender brows? you mean fender flairs if you do how is that going the cheap way? fender flairs can be just as much as over fenders.

[miracleboi123]

ive seen them pretty low priced, and then that goes to say why would someone pay THAT MUCH for them, when they can just get the overlay ones...

[keith0486]

depends on the look your gooing for to me fender flairs is a more old school look and over fenders are more modern type of look.

[miracleboi123]

ah, i feel you now. sorry for being so single-minded

[keith0486]

[mattblancarte]

no dont cut away your body LOl, leave it, and go to AIT's website, if you want it widebody, go and get the d1 widebody fenders and they just overlap onto the existing oem fenders. job is done and dont go cheap for those ugly *** fender brows or w.e

You have to cut the fenders if you want wider wheels and tires. Otherwise, the overfender would be a waste.

[miracleboi123]

not what they did in modified mag WITH AIT overlays.

[Crazyirish]

not what they did in modified mag WITH AIT overlays.

If you don't cut or somehow clearance the oem rear fender then overfenders will allow you to "fit" a wider wheel, but only when the car is parked. If you want the wheel to fit throughout the range of suspension movement, you gotta cut something.

[miracleboi123]

im pretty sure its just simple, easy to just slap it on...