So, like the rich studios/actors/directors/et al paying for the movie (in time/materials/etc) and you getting it for free? Got it.dusred wrote:I complain about people who think everything should be paid for by 'the rich'.AppleBonker wrote:How many times have I read posts from you complaining about people on welfare and their handouts and calling them lazy? Hell, or just handouts in general?
Well, your post shows that you want it for free. You originally said nothing about convenience. That tells me you either can't afford the movie, or don't want to afford the movie. The solution to either of those is to work harder and get more money so the movie takes a smaller percentage of your funds. I thought it was a clear jump.dusred wrote:Bonkers wrote:Then, you post this explaining that you are just too lazy to work a little bit harder to be able to more easily afford this stuffI've read my post forward, sideways, upside down, and while riding a horse and I still can't see where I explained how I was to lazy to work a little harder to afford a movie. Maybe you could elaborate.dusred wrote:that site has saved me so much money. I love free stuff
Once again missing thedusred wrote:Meh. I've heard that BS enough.Bonkers wrote:At least the libs can put things under the umbrella of trying to help the less fortunate.
where I essentially agreed with you that it is BS.Me wrote:(though that is often a misguided description)
Not sure where I ever claimed to be liberal. I actually see solid points from all sides (though as that may be for people to believe). But in this argument, you're saying that (if I were a fiscal liberal) I should be happy about you stealing from the rich to provide for yourself as it is redistributing the wealth, correct? So are you claiming that by your actions you support certain liberal ideals that you have previously railed against? Or only when they benefit you directly?dusred wrote:Ironic. You claim to be a liberal and then you complain that those evil rich producers are being cheated out of $15 from dusred. Last I checked it was your mission to "spread the wealth around a little" (translation: steal it from them and give it to those who didn't earn it).Bonkers wrote:Do you know how many more jobs could've been created by the movie studio/game developers/music producers had you actually paid for their products rather than stealing them?
I am not the PO-lice. I don't do that. Studios have gone after people before, though I don't think there is much benefit in it. But calling you a criminal wasn't the point.dusred wrote:Then come arrest me. If the producers feel like I'm sealing from them they're welcome to come sue me.Bonkers wrote: And, by the way, that's a criminal act.
But you do still receive handouts. Everyone does. The government plays games with money to try to support certain actions, it's true. So while you may push hard for those on welfare/medicare/medicaid to be screened thoroughly for any criminal activities, would you push equally hard for screening of people like yourself for criminal activities IF being found a criminal would result in higher taxes? Or some other "punishment" (by that I may mean removal of a benefit, too)?dusred wrote:That was random. If I had my way there would be no 'handouts'.Bonkers wrote:So should the government be able to invade all your privacy now just to be able to remove any "handouts" you may be receiving?
Ah, the crux of the matter. This is precisely my point. Nope, I'm not going to stop you. And, to be completely honest, I don't care at all what you do in the privacy of your own home as that is your business. It certainly is a moral issue, so you don't need my approval or my criticism. But, most conservatives freely dole out approval of moral issues like abortion and gay marriage. Ding ding ding - there's the hypocrisy I speak of.dusred wrote:Like I said in my original post, you can all get up on your high horse and act all self-righteous and say I am a criminal but you aren't going to stop me from downloading stuff. Now, if I need a program for my business or other commercial purpose I pay for it. But when I'm in my bedroom and want to download a movie I'm going to do it if I need to and you aren't going to stop me. Am I dishonest? Depends on how you look at it. But that's a moral issue so I don't think I need your approval of my morals.
And, for the record, I am not on a high horse. I'm also not preaching. I don't try to push my ideas and morals on anyone else. All I'm asking for is that they do the same. Unfortunately, ALL extremists are incapable of this simple request. They all try to tell everyone the correct way to live. I'd be much happier doing what I do and letting you do what you do without either of us telling the other their lifestyle is wrong. Simple in theory, impossible to implement.
