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goodstuff86
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Ive been surfing the forums and spending time at the track and it seems like its hard for swapped 240's to break into the 13's ive only personally witnessed one do it and he was running around 320 wheel he said WTF? im just hoping some people on here can liven me up with some good times so post away cuz im getting depressed while im building my 400+ setup bcuz i wanna run some decent times...let me know!


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i ran 13s on my stock motor with a smic.theres one kid on here that did i think 12.96 with a front mount a 15 psi.hes got videos too. i forget his name though.maybe someone else will chime in here.

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goodstuff86 wrote:Ive been surfing the forums and spending time at the track and it seems like its hard for swapped 240's to break into the 13's ive only personally witnessed one do it and he was running around 320 wheel he said WTF? im just hoping some people on here can liven me up with some good times so post away cuz im getting depressed while im building my 400+ setup bcuz i wanna run some decent times...let me know!
driver ability and cheap tires.

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I would say most of the times you are refering to are from newbie driver error. Soem of us aren't drag racers(myself) and the one time I ran my car it did 15.3 @ 96mph. with a 2.6 60' and .035 reaction. That run was at 7psi witha blown 4-bolt turbo gasket. But 320whp should put him in the high 11's- low 12's. The average for a bpu SR20DET is low 14's high 13's

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i once heard someone say they ran like 13's or 14's on a stock KA just from some SERIOUS weight reduction...

don't remember who, you'd have to ask around

ok, maybe it wasn't QUITE that good a time...

who knows?

not me, i'm dumb

but everyone wants a fast car AND a nice car...

so d@mned picky...

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10psi T25, 14.2 @ 100mph, 2.3 60ft time. This was last June running on real cheapo tires. Spun 1st and 2nd completely. With a better 60ft time, the car would have been in the 13's no problem. I still have to run it with the 2871R. Hoping for high 12's or at least a high trap speed. Ill still be on the same tires as before. Still havnt gotten them down to the wear marks.

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14.2@98 mph with 2.3 60 ft as well. Basic bolt ons at about 1600 ft above sea level. Sea level has to do a lot with times as well...most of the guys doing 13s are closer to sea level I'm sure. My friend has the same amount of mods like mine and he did 13.8@100 mph...not sure what his 60 ft was but he ran at about 900 ft above sea level.

Btw, don't let sr swapped cars that is not running below 13s put you down. Everyone aren't good drag racers. You should attempt the 13s yourself. oh and one important thing...sr swapped cars are not fast and are not the bomb! They're just like any other 4 cyl turbo car out there.

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goodstuff86 wrote:Ive been surfing the forums and spending time at the track and it seems like its hard for swapped 240's to break into the 13's ive only personally witnessed one do it and he was running around 320 wheel he said WTF? im just hoping some people on here can liven me up with some good times so post away cuz im getting depressed while im building my 400+ setup bcuz i wanna run some decent times...let me know!
For starters there are a lot of young guys into the s-chassis and most of the time they don’t understand how much tires affect a car's performance. They'll spend $3k+ on suspension/brakes and run the cheapest tires they can find. Also, most s-chassis came with an open diff and the ones that didn't (or the ones who swapped) are most likely using 10-16 year old VLSD's. Most of these guys with 2.x second 60ft's would probably see consistent sub-2 second times if they had better tires and a working diff. There’s also the issue of super light weight flywheels, overdone clutches, and worn/tired/dried out bushings in the multilink.


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well im shooting for low 11's and maybe even 10's one day i pulled a 13.8 on my z with an intake so i know i can drive atleast ive had track experience anyways but im gonna have to get used to all this power it will be new to me. i plan on running BFG drag radials untill i can afford some mickey thompson slicks

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when i ran my 14.2, i ran next to a 350z. Had intake, exhaust, and drag radials. It ran something like a 13.2 @ 103mph. It definitly ripped out of the hole faster than me.

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I need a radiator, lsd, and some tires before I go back to the track. 2.1 60 open dif, stock 195's

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u must have been misled about wut was done to his car bcuz the worlds fastest all motor z is in maryland im friends with him his name is bobby and he runs 12.9 and consistant 13.1 and he is on slicks with every bolt on part basically id say that person wuz probably spraying

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The Z i raced against was a Blue Z33 at Cecil County. Ill have to hunt down my track slip to find the exact time. Its pretty close to what i stated though.

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have you went to the mason dixon dragway in hagerstown goodstuff?

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goodstuff86 wrote:u must have been misled about wut was done to his car bcuz the worlds fastest all motor z is in maryland im friends with him his name is bobby and he runs 12.9 and consistant 13.1 and he is on slicks with every bolt on part basically id say that person wuz probably spraying
When I was at SPL our 350Z ran 12.90's on slicks without even cams or any internal work. Hell it was even done on the early generation Crawford Plenum.


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corey240 wrote:have you went to the mason dixon dragway in hagerstown goodstuff?
No, Hagerstown is more of a drive than Cecil or Maple Grove for me. I still need to get my car running good enough to take it back to the track.

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I'm hoping for high 13's but am expecting low 14's. I'll know this weekend (as long as the weather permits). I have a stock redtop in a base model s13 coupe with an apexi intake, greddy turbo elbow, rsr 3 inch DP, BRM 3 inch catback, and a vlsd that for some reason hooks up very well. The bad thing is that I ran out of money so I am on some stock alloys with 205/55/15 rubber I am @ 500 ft above sealevel. I'll post up my time hopefully by sunday.

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Two on the boards.

SPL's car Sfarrah I think is his SN. 1.69 60ft and he went 12.9 @ 106

Raptorbh12 is th other. He will tell you he pulled a 1.5 60ft and ran 12.7 @ 105.XX, but anybody that knows anything about DR would question that(I think he staged with the back tires ). What I do believe he legitemately ran were 2 12.9's iirc. With 1.7 60ft's at almost 106mph-that was on a hot day so I do give him all the credit in the world, I dont want my above statement to turn into a "yes he did I saw it" thread.pulled that straight off the 350z forum raptor is my buddy bobby why am i being doubted i own the car and have tested its limits turbo is the way to go just not in a 350z to much $ and 2 many tickets! ull see when im done

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SFarrah is my friend Sean.

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Dori Dori wrote:For starters there are a lot of young guys into the s-chassis and most of the time they don’t understand how much tires affect a car's performance. They'll spend $3k+ on suspension/brakes and run the cheapest tires they can find. Also, most s-chassis came with an open diff and the ones that didn't (or the ones who swapped) are most likely using 10-16 year old VLSD's. Most of these guys with 2.x second 60ft's would probably see consistent sub-2 second times if they had better tires and a working diff. There’s also the issue of super light weight flywheels, overdone clutches, and worn/tired/dried out bushings in the multilink.
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90% of the import guys who go to the track race trap speed. hence 400whp and busted stock suspension with all seasons from 1985.

The other 10% have suspension built for things other than drag racing and don't really know or care how to launch a car.

Thats why you dont get good ETs. IIRC Enjuku did a 12.5 on gutted out 240 with a bolt-on SR20.

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Not that this really counts as a street car...because it's not, but it's still a 240 with an sr20 power plant.

Mazworks drag s14. http://www.markmazurowski.com/...7.wmv

So there's a number for you that's under 13's

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that car is quick

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Who cares about going in a straight line.....240s are meant to be going sideways.

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vwhite_turbo wrote:Who cares about going in a straight line.....240s are meant to be going sideways.
-5 cool points for lack of creativity.

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you can make a 240 do ALMOST anything you want.....just need the right set-up and $......

still it will be a ***** to try and get your S13 far inside the beach sand! LOL friend tried.......and got stuck very bad.

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My last time at the track I ran a 13.6 @ 95mph with a 2.0 60ft. One of my coilpacks popped loose at the 1000ft mark and I ended up coasting in thinking I blew my motor...

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most BPU SR's ive seen run are on average between 13.8-14.1 on the stock turbo and ~12psi on average

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went 13.40s @ around 100-102 consistently with nitto 245/45/17 drag radials in las vegas, stock turbo, and all stock head and bottom end.

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vwhite_turbo wrote:Who cares about going in a straight line.....240s are meant to be going sideways.
I believe in tuning a car for all aspects of motorsports not just 1 but because there isnt a track to drift on anywhere near me and theres a drag strip right down the road i think thats gonna be my main worry i drift my z in huge parking lots like at fedex field and yes i went to the comp. there but its no fun drifting around just me and my buddy with his corrolla so ill stick with wut every1 else does?

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goodstuff86 wrote:I believe in tuning a car for all aspects of motorsports not just 1 but because there isnt a track to drift on anywhere near me and theres a drag strip right down the road i think thats gonna be my main worry i drift my z in huge parking lots like at fedex field and yes i went to the comp. there but its no fun drifting around just me and my buddy with his corrolla so ill stick with wut every1 else does?
i live in tennessee. on the dragon actually. so thats where i do a lot of my driving. other than that, i dig drag racing. for those of you not in the area....

http://www.tailofthedragon.com/dragon.h ... llboy.com/

i have actually been thinking it might be cool to have a meet up there sometime.


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