why do most ppl hate hondas?

[D_roc]

i mean yes the civic sucks but the new ones are kinda nice and the accords are decent and acuras are nice too

[THT]

i mean yes the civic sucks but the new ones are kinda nice and the accords are decent and acuras are nice too

My beef with a stock Honda is the lack of torque. They also seem to have the highest concentration of ricers.

[sweet3rdgen]

It is like Camaros where in the 80's, what ever is most common is frowned upon. Like in music people love a band until it becomes popular then they just get sick of it and hate.

They are inexpensive to buy and cheap to build, so they are not impressive.

[allensteiner]

they're good cheap cars with a nice mpg but...most ricers build those because the parts are cheap and available by bucket loads. the hate is not towards the car, or even a modded civic but towards people that have them and think they're the sh*t when actually they are...sh*t and by sh*t i mean cocky bastards with no class like maxima owners

[D_roc]

and by sh*t i mean cocky bastards with no class like maxima owners

lol gotta agree there in high school there was this guy with a 98 civic and the only upgrades he had done was an intake, rims and ebay muffler and always thought he can beat my maxima but i never had time to do it

[MinisterofDOOM]

I've only recently begun to dislike Honda. Until about ~2002 they were a great company in my eyes. Even though I'm a Nissan guy, I'm not a big Japanese car guy, per se. But Honda and Nissan both made some sedans I really liked. The Acura Vigor is still one of my favorite sedans.

The main reason I don't particularly like most Hondas (at least in the sense that I'd never buy one) is that their powerplants are not my style. I don't like motors that need to be revved to hell and back to make power. I want torque, I want it soon, and I want it to stick around. Honda motors don't do that. Instead, they give you peak horsepower at 3rpm before their ridiculously high redlines. Just not my style.

As for the Civic, I liked the older ones, but it seems like with every redesign I like them less. The last model was way too "cute chick car" in it's styling. The new one is straight up ugly.

My uncle just bought a brand new Accord. After checking it out, I can say I like the interior. The rear seat has plenty of head and leg room for me, and I'm over 6 feet tall.But the exterior looks like a copy of a 5 year old Saturn--and the Saturn looked better.

Acura annoys me these days for numerous reasons.First, they never let people forget that they're "real contenders" in the luxury segment now. But they aren't...nowhere close. Their top-end car is a midsize transverse V6 that sells for as much as larger rear-drive V8s.The TSX is a car that should sell in the low $20ks but instead sells in the low $30ks. $10k markup for a badge.Also, Acura is ruining all it's current models with it's new angular chrome bullcrap. The grill on the new TSX and TL is beyond bad. And both cars have lost their soul, styling-ise. The TSX went from an attractive little car with nice lines and tasteful cues to a sort of formless bland echo of the original--with a giant slab of chrome buck-toothing itself into the grille.

[D_roc]

yea the new accord is ugly the 2004-07 were nice and no i would not consider acuras as luxury cars i'd rather stick wiht a lexus

[DevonD]

Yeah it just seems like anyone who buys a 2 door civic thinks they can smoke any other car on the road, and that their muffler really is adding 10-15 HP. The cars are great and reliable but it just almost all the people buying them are uneducated about cars and honestly probably dont know how to change a flat tire, and ya think their civic is the shiz. Haha more educated people go with Nissan.

[McSteve]

IMO the new accord coupe looks pretty sick. I was passing one on the way to the grand canyon and I took my sweet time to get a decent look at it. I think the front looked pretty sick. Now Civics is another issue. They are just straight ugly, although I really like the european ones which look COMPLETELY different. They are complete different cars, so I wonder why they still keep the same name. My mom was driving a civic 20 years ago and she loved it lol. It was cheap, reliable and really quick (for the time). I think you need to give some respect to everyone that is an enthusiast and invests the effort to work on their cars, no matter what brand. On the other hand I'm really annoyed by people that think they are hardcore enthusiasts although all they do is drop their car off at some shop to get all their work done. Granted you might make money in the time it would take you to work on it, but how hard is it to do some online shopping and drop your car off? I knew someone that dumped like 12Gs in his WRX, gave it all to a shop of course, didn't know crap about his car, and it was still way slower than a stock STI that he could have EASILY bought with that extra cash. People like that are and deserve a
Modified by McSteve at 7:35 AM 6/23/2008

[D-Maxima]

My mom was driving a civic 20 years ago and she loved it lol.

lol same with my old man he loved that little thing he had it for 20 years and no big problems at all...70's civic that is haha

[mtcookson]

My mom has an '07 Accord sedan V6 that I really enjoy. Very impressive power and has solid steering that would expect in a sports car. We also have an '02 Accord with the 4 cylinder... I hate Honda's 4 cylinders, they just don't do it for me. Give me torque!

[davskins97]

For what it's worth, I have a Honda Odyssey LX and it's a great vehicle. I wouldn't trade it for any other model. It also wasn't cheap, and the resale value it Toyota-esque. It's got the V-6 powerplant, and there is no lack of power or responsiveness. But, I am talking about a minivan here.

I had a loaner accord ('07 I think) with the 4 cylinder and I didn't care for it. Slow, doggy and very uncomfortable. The interior was uninspiring. The exterior styling was boring as well. But it was a base model, too.

[ctbkmaxima]

i mean yes the civic sucks but the new ones are kinda nice and the accords are decent and acuras are nice too

haha i just think its funny how guys with civics talk the biggest line of crap to people with ANY other car, including mine, but they have no idea maxima STOCK engines are like twice the size and power of most of the modded civics theyre ridin in. haha yet, they still talk..

[ZGadson]

Its the "Hondas hold their value" line that kills me everytime...

It's not that they hold their value, its that they all have negative one year old from the start because they sell models almost a full early; for example, my friend just bought an 08 Civic in January of 2007. She could basically drive it for a year and then turn around and sell it as a band new car - hence, they "hold their value."

[Presscott707]

they're good cheap cars with a nice mpg but...most ricers build those because the parts are cheap and available by bucket loads. the hate is not towards the car, or even a modded civic but towards people that have them and think they're the sh*t when actually they are...sh*t and by sh*t i mean cocky bastards with no class like maxima owners

I agree with allensteiner on this one. Alot of the honda guys are like the VW guys. but I dont knock honda at all because i use to have a CRX. But the motor went.

[Chris93se]

they're good cheap cars with a nice mpg but...most ricers build those because the parts are cheap and available by bucket loads. the hate is not towards the car, or even a modded civic but towards people that have them and think they're the sh*t when actually they are...sh*t and by sh*t i mean cocky bastards with no class like maxima owners

^^^I agree with this guy fully

VW guys act the same way?... ive never noticed... I have a VW fanatic friend. he had a fox which i thought was a kick *** car too. he does preach a lil too much about them but he still doesnt think him and his VW club buddies are the **** heh

[spinyones]

my brother just got a 2008 white accord coupe v6 and that thing is pretty as hell. fully loaded with the nav like 3 something a month, and its a gorgeous car. my other brother has a blue acura tl type s 2008 in the midnight blue color and that **** is stupid fast and very attractive but hes at like 6 something a month. I've driven them both and the honda by far is a way more comfortable ride. I guess it really depends on what your personal preference is... for me....im trying to sell my 98max gle to get into a 2008 max 3.5 sl!!!! hook a brother a up. I had a 91 se then i upgraded and now...i want to upgrade again. I took it for a test drive and i was so impressed with smooth ride and quick pick up...im practically DROOLING!

[davskins97]

Its the "Hondas hold their value" line that kills me everytime...

It's not that they hold their value, its that they all have negative one year old from the start because they sell models almost a full early; for example, my friend just bought an 08 Civic in January of 2007. She could basically drive it for a year and then turn around and sell it as a band new car - hence, they "hold their value."

You can phrase it however you like it but over the life of the vehicle they lose their value slower than most makes except for Toyota. It's the GM's and Hyundai's that offer the big factory incentives that lose 25% of their value after year one. Go look at used vehicles and you will see the GM's, Chryslers and Hyundai's are a dime a dozen, and the people that bought them lost a lot of their money on them. I bought my 07 brand new a few months before the 08's were coming out. I can drive it a year and larger percentage of my money back out of it than if I had bought another brand.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Its the "Hondas hold their value" line that kills me everytime...

It's not that they hold their value, its that they all have negative one year old from the start because they sell models almost a full early; for example, my friend just bought an 08 Civic in January of 2007. She could basically drive it for a year and then turn around and sell it as a band new car - hence, they "hold their value."

Model year has very little relevance. Once a car leaves the lot it looses value, regardless of MY. And milage plays a bigger role than either.Honda's also far from the only brand that's become extremely premature with their model years. The 2009 Corolla became available in January of this year.

Honda's do tend to retain their resale values better simply because people expect them to be more reliable cars. It's something that applies to all brands, and is not necessarily based on reality, but perception. Same reason Toyota can get away with the prices it sells it's cars for new. People are okay with that because they believe they're buying a better car. In the case of Honda, it's still somewhat true.

[Presscott707]

^^^I agree with this guy fully

VW guys act the same way?... ive never noticed... I have a VW fanatic friend. he had a fox which i thought was a kick *** car too. he does preach a lil too much about them but he still doesnt think him and his VW club buddies are the **** heh

Up here in maine most of the vw and honda guys dont know there *** from the elbow, so they put a wing and a fart can and then clam there car is fast. dont get me wrong there are some smart honda and vw guys out there, but there is alot more ricers. and all they do is give imports a bad name.

[chrunner09]

People EXPECT hondas to hold their reliability and think that there so special because of that. ANY car can last at least 200K as long as the person takes care of it. Hondas are in lack of torque tho, which is a must have in my opinion. MPG aside, ii love my '99 I30. Much rather have that baby than some honda ricer.

[chrunner09]

ha, come to think of it, i race my friend and he has an '03 Accord V6 with like MAYBE 57k ON IT. i have almost 3x the mileage and STILL beat him

[reknab]

I agree, its that sweet v6 block. Thrust is almost as good as sex. I have 2 Maxima's and a Quest. The engines just keep on running and running. 225k miles on my 86 I let it sit for 6 months and it started on the second ignition tap... amazing!The wife does have an '07 CRV and it is a very comfortable cruzing ride, but going up hill in the wind forget it you have to get out and push. The gas mileage is nice though 25 city compared to 22 city on my 2001 anniversary Maxima.

[davskins97]

Honda doesn't make anything that compares to the maxima as far as power, looks and space. But they do make some nice vehicles.

Any underpowered car riced up with a fart pipe and a giant spoiler is going to look stupid, whether it be a civic, a cavalier or a neon. It does seem that Honda's are the most likely candidate for such ridiculousness.

[chrunner09]

well, a fart pipe and big spoiler look stupid on almost every car.

[hsckris]

I think Honda makes a lot of good options for commuter/daily type vehicles. They offer little for the true enthusiast, pretty much the only choice is the s2000, maybe the Civic Si and Accord coupe. But if you look at those cars, there are far more sporty things available for the same or less money (example - Mazdaspeed3, which also has more utility than the Civic or Accord coupe).

I would seriously consider a Honda as a daily, but not as a 'fun' or 'performance' vehicle. Ricers tend to give Hondas a bad name, and I think thats why people don't like them.

FYI -- My brother has a '00 Integra (non-vtec) with bolt-ons, susp., wheels & tires and he runs ~14.7, which I think is 1) pretty good for a mostly stock 4 banger 2) on par with, if not faster than, most maximas in stock/near stock trim.

Hondas can be fast, just depends on how you do it... I think a Civic Hatch with a k series swap would be a real fun car, plus you'd probably get good MPG to boot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ-VGRAacf8

[allensteiner]

i had to dig this one up because...i was pushing a shopping cart through walmart's auto section and i hear someone say: there's not many cars around here that can keep up with me, yeah, i'm pretty fast.

i found the guy one isle over talking on his phone, walked up and told him that i have a pretty fast car and maybe he wants to do a little run. the guy said "whatever, i'll smoke you anyways". then i asked what he drove and he proudly replied "CRX, bro". i looked at him and seriously said: "this shopping cart can smoke your crx, what a waste of time, l8r" and walked away.

this is why i hate ppl who drive hondas.

[sixteenXnine]

This thread is hilarious.

ctbkmaxima, um, is that, um, YOUR car in your sig? Yeah, the one with the huge-*** wing and fart can. It's just ironic to see that at this specific moment.



Here in the Finger Lakes region of NY it seems that if you're 16-25 and male, then you own a civic (coupe OR sedan) or a dented jetta.

I think nobody has money around here for anything except their stereos. So these guys (all white, pasty white, World of Warcraft white) ride all stupidly low and off to the right, bumping their sh1te sexist hip-hop that they only know the hook to, they gather at a pier or a parking lot a couple times a week, they hang with the very few that own WRX's or crotch rockets, they fight over smelly overtanned loose hussies with bad taste, and well, they seem to all think they're the sh1t. Oh and they deliver pizza.

We had the same problem with camaros in the 90's. Except those guys were all local mechanics.

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I like early 90's accords. Damn solid cars, good for when you need something easy to drive, easy to clean and easy to maintain. And I think preludes are pretty cool as well when they're either stock or classily modded.

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We of the maxima/i3x are in a special niche. Our cars just completely kick arse in so many ways that... hell we don't even need any mods done to have a classy, roomy, durable, free-revving car that is as at home dusting jettas as it is making a 16 hr 90mph beeline business trip with a pressed shirt hanging in the back.

[danielekfuj]

My beef with a stock Honda is the lack of torque.

even my v6 accord lacks in torque compared to the maxi pad.

[DevonD]

haha same thing happened to me! But this was a mazda protoge? protoge speed to be specific. so it's turbo'd and a pretty quick little car. This guy was saying before he bought it he looked at Maxima's but decided not to get the 03 SE with 6 speed manual because it was to slow! I told him he was wrong and to either shut up or race me. He accepted by laughing at me and saying good luck keeping up! to make a long story short I won and he doesnt talk smack anymore...