Why do Hondas try?

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legitshizz
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Someone should lock this thread, its gettin out of hand.


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masticatingcow
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legitshizz wrote:Someone should lock this thread, its gettin out of hand.
LOL, nice... just as the dust is settling and everyone is going home happy, you show up to throw in an inflammatory comment about people who don't think FF cars can drift and make an unrelated point about FF cars drifting. I'm pretty sure that no one here really CARES about a FF car's ability to drift... our little disagreement was on the "origin" of drifting, which, as has been stated, developed and was then named... no ONE person invented it. (Yes, I know the article says that an early JGTC racer used drifting techniques competitively, and that the Drift King picked it up and put it on the streets... blah blah blah.) Still, no one INVENTED drifting. And we all can agree on that.

But then you pop up to throw some lighter fluid on this God-forsaken thread by calling a HUGE population here on these boards out as "stupid," and THEN you have the audacity to suggest that the thread be locked because it's getting out of hand.

It's because of little know-it-all turds like yourself that no one respects drift forums in general. Take a look around; check the General forums and see what people are saying about other drift forums, namely Drifting Dot Com. These people are arguing over whether or not D1 drivers use a special drift foam that gets sprayed on the rear tires, much like a nitrous fogger, that both induces slide and creates smoke. Don't believe me? LOOK IT UP. (Ah, the relevance!)

You may not believe this, but this forum could be better than that. Not every thread we run in this forum needs to be about trying to validate FWD cars in a sport that is largely dominated by RWD machines. So take your "FF cars can drift and if you don't agree with me then you are a stupid poopoo face" back to Drifting Dot Com.

And for the record, no matter what "n00bs" need drifting to be defined as, let's get one little thing straight:

Locking your hand brake and dragging your smoking @$$ through a turn is one thing. Using weight transfer, throttle control and countersteer to maximize speed and angle through a series of turns is something else.

I wouldn't say I'm a "self-proclaimed" expert... but I will say I have my own opinions on what constitutes drifting, and that's all. You want a definition and you aren't going to like, and therefore, accept it. So don't bother asking.

NOW let's lock this thread. LOL.

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i was really opening my mind to Flight, the physics expert, and sensible, the nodding HondaHater.

And for my "defining drift" i wanted to see what technically was 'drifting' to those that say FFs cant' drift.

Anyone that took offense, i didn't mean to come off that way.

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legitshizz wrote:for my "defining drift" i wanted to see what technically was 'drifting' to those that say FFs cant' drift.
Look it up. This has been hashed out OVER and OVER again, in these forums and in others. You could follow those links mmatl16 posted up... helpful information.
legitshizz wrote:Anyone that took offense, i didn't mean to come off that way.
Then leave your
legitshizz wrote:Anyone that says FF cars can't drift are stupid.
at the door. It's actually very easy not to come off sounding like a sphincter.


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"Drifting" 'started' at the boat park in East Brady, PA when I decided it would be a good idea to see if I could destroy the rear tires of my '81 Chevette by driving around the asphalt access roads and launch ramps, all the while keeping the little bolt bucket alternating sideways to and fro as much as possible. Sounds good to me. OK .... so I have a pretty narrow view of the world. Oh well, it's all good fun in the end.

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masticatingcow wrote:The USDM Hachi-Roku, at least in the drift scene. Otherwise it's a fuel-efficent people mover with no other performance merits whatsoever.
I was misquoted, I know what a "corolla" is...

And now I will post a reply which is on topic, this is why hondas try:

Yea, an Integra smoking both rear tires which is more than half the people with 240s...
Modified by gogg at 11:51 PM 5/24/2005

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Pics no worky. I'm going to assume you posting a couple pictures of some FF car drifting. If it's the particular 'Teg I'm thinking of, then remember that it was converted to FR in order to drift... a more noble effort, if you ask me, than locking up your e-brake and getting your dori dori on. Ok, so (assuming those are the pics I'm thinking of) there's ONE 'Teg smoking the rear tires. One in 5,767,234. Big deal. If TWO whole 240sx's can do the same thing, then I guess we know which is the better drift car. And I promise you, there are more than two.

If you want to stay on topic, which is a futile effort, IMHO, then the reason Hondas try is because of what has already been said... Honda drivers. Honda drivers think their cars are the best ANYWHERE and can do ANYTHING. That's why they try.


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No I think it's like the one integra in the world someone decided to convert to rwd. I think it's white and if it is the one i'm thinking of I hope he's gotten much better then the last time I saw it over a year ago. BTW his father built it for him. Intersting project just not an experianced driver.

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masticatingcow wrote:there's ONE 'Teg smoking the rear tires. One in 5,767,234. Big deal. If TWO whole 240sx's can do the same thing, then I guess we know which is the better drift car. And I promise you, there are more than two.
I wasn't posting something to start some sort of arguement of what is a better drift car .. just a fact that there is an integra that is rwd with a locking rear differential. Nor anything about how good the driver was. Just making it known that a RWD integra exists, being that this is a thread on hondas drifting.


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