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If I was gonna get a Honda, it wouldn't be a CRX. A Prelude with a turbo kit would hit the spot. That is the only Honda I would have. I like the body stlye.

But I do have to admit, that I have seen impressive performance numbers from CRX's. Even if they are butt ugly.


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Bizz wrote:BTW not only can worked on crx's be fast, even with mild mods they feel damn fast. I was in a friends first gen crx and at 85 I would have sworn we were doing at least 100.
Doesn't mean that it IS fast. :rolleyes

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Old mr2s(AW11) are lighter than 240s and a VERY good option. New ones(SW20) are overpriced, heavier than 240s and unless you get a turbo (at least 8k$) the engine has less HP and torque.the 240s engine beats a CRX engine stock. I never said that it was better than a B16. Although last night I rode with a friend of mine in a CRX with a D15A6 (stock DX motor) with an MPFI swap from a SI, header, intake, exhaust, some SI susp. components incl. swaybars, Ground Control coilovers and AGX 5-way shocks and some other stuff and man that car hauled some a$$. Imagine taking your average street corner right turn at 45 mph. 4 wheel independent double wishbone suspension on a car that weighs just over 2000 pounds will make your extremities tingle.

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he was looking at older mr2 but was very concerned with trunk space.... or lack there of.:rolleyes

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mr2s rule my friend is getting a gt28 garrett on his first gen. trunk space isn't that bad unless you need to move all your belongings. mr2s also handle very well, like on rails. you could even do a j-spec swap if you wanted.

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Please, keep the guy out of a 240. If he has already wrecked a car on turn as 'technical' as an onramp, odds are he has a few more accidents to go before he really figures out how to drive. Save the 240s for those who are going to keep them alive. :)

If he has ~$3500 to spend, the CRX is probably the better bet for him. Especially considering that it already has the B16A. With the high redline, it will feel like a race car to him. He can zip around from stoplight to stoplight all day, and have fun with it.

How long does he plan on keeping the car for? How long do you think he can keep the car together, before wrecking it? If he has any viable long term aspirations for his next vehicle, get the 240. It can be setup to handle better, and with a swap it will make more than enough power.

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:he had dry rotted tires on. He didnt want to pay for new tires for winter (on his stock steel rims) and payed for it with his car. I think he learned his lesson.


*cough* :D

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I also was a previous crx owner and they are fun car's especially w/ a b16 I love my s14 but the crx w/ swap is sweet especially for 3k don't be a car snob ...tell him to get the crx sounds dope but if/when he wrecks it --the crx has no safety ..encourage him to get a roll cage and race seat w/ harness..you can't go fast in a wheel chair!!!

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Quote »you can't go fast in a wheel chair!!![/quote] witch incidently is what a CRX resembles...

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i cant even fathom the idea of comparing a crx to a 240sx as they are not even in the same class...i guess its all personal preference for your buddy...tell him to test drive that crx and see how he likes it...if he does, more power to him, if he doesnt, then i welcome another 240sx owner...

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JESTER wrote:If I was gonna get a Honda, it wouldn't be a CRX. A Prelude with a turbo kit would hit the spot. That is the only Honda I would have. I like the body stlye.

But I do have to admit, that I have seen impressive performance numbers from CRX's. Even if they are butt ugly.


Dude, a mild tune b16a in a CRX (rex) will wipe out the turbo prelude. Why? Because the lude weighs 3500 and the rex weighs 2000. The lude is way heavier and the motor is heavier than anything else. Why do you think a 220 HP lude runs mid 15? A turbo ain't gonna help much because of the high compression pistons that the lude already had. My friend has a CRX with a b16 i think and he's making it run 13 with BOLT's ON only, no internal work...with SAL ECU, carb intake manifold..wow!!!.

Anyhow, i wouldn't want to drive a rex because it's fricking retarded looking, and it's cheap with almost no protential unless you put in about 10K in it. My brother drove a Rex for a few time and damn, i hated that car.

Let him test drive the 240 first and see if he likes it. Or take him drifting once to see how he reacts to it. If no reaction from him, just give up. GL

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sixxdeuce wrote:The Rwd is definatly a plus, but a crx with a b16a will kill a stock or mildly modded 240 in a race. I do not like hondas and would never own one besides possibly a s2k but a b16a swapped crx can be a real sleeper, especially if its an hf model, i believe that is the lightest car that honda ever produced, and despite the fwd they still handle very good, i have seen them do quite well at autocrosses, however low torque and 2 seats would be a drawback, and of course its a honda. I think he would get more enjoyment out of a 240.


Woah, lets go apples to apples here:stock CRX v.s. stock 240 = 240 winsswapped b16a CRX v.s. swapped SR20DET 240 = 240 wins

You want a real sleeper? Build a 240. Everyone and their sister is so into Hondas, and what youve done to them, they just ask "Whats a 240?" Then you smoke em....

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and lets be honest. Girls just look a hell of a lot better sitting in my 240 passenger seat than in a shopping cart with a chassis..(crx)

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i currently own both a 91 240 and a 90 crx si. the 240 is a way better car to get around in and they are not garbage stock. i've had my share of races and a friend of mine has a crx with a b16, from a dead stop he whooped me by llike 3 car lengths, after that we raced starting at 20 mph and my 240 pulled a car length ahead. On the other hand my crx is just a fun little car, i picked it up for $1300 and spent another $300 putting a new s/roof in it. The crx definately handles like a go kart and even without power steering it isnt that bad. By early March i plan to have a b18b installed and later on this year turbocharging it. the complete swap is going to cost me about $1600 including the mount kit and axles. so for $3200 i have a mid 2k lb car with 140hp and 130lb ft of torque. I have driven a crx with this swap and it is pretty fast stock. From an every day driving perspective i like the 240 a lot more but if you want to go fast for cheap you cant beat the bang for the buck with the crx. another good point for the crx is the abundance of them at junk yards, it seems as if they grow them there.

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Here's my 2 cent's: You should just let him get whatever he wants. 240 or CRX, whatever. Both are cars and will get him around where ever he has to go. Just remind him that Honda's are more frequently stolen than Nissans. All because the majority of the parts are interchangeable. Especially if he mods it out, oh man. I have this thing about Honda people. Not that I hate them, but I just think that they have no REAL respect for the Import Scene. Look at what they do to each other......1) Steal each other's cars, parts, etc.. 2) Drive around and REV the hell out of their cars..3) When they drive by you, they try to mean mug all the way down the street..4) Always trying to race people5) I know for a FACT, that when they see a fixed up Nissan, Toyota, Subaru, or whatever, they'll do something to it that'll damage the car. In my case, some guy in a CRX stepped on my front bumper and cracked it and also broke the supports, hit my trunk lid with a ratchet, tried to steal my spoiler, and drew a "Your car sucks" on my rear bumper. This was all while I was at school. So......just remind him. Now, I'm not trying to say that ALL people that own Honda's are like this. I have a lot of friends that own Honda's and all fixed upped. And the majority have been broken into or stolen at least once. There are just those young guys/girls who think there car is the shizznit with a 5 inch tip and Altezza every where that annoy the hell out of me. Enough about that, just let him get what he wants!!! :D

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J-Spec Tuner wrote:Alright heres the deal. Earlier today my friend drove his 89 accord into a wall after loosing control on a off ramp. Im trying to convince him to buy a 240sx. He already has located a honda CRX with a b16a in it for about $3300 (wow these honda guys dont waste time). I wanted to prove to him that the 240sx would be a better buy and was wondering if you guys could help me come up with a list of the good points of a 240sx vs. a CRX.
id let him buy the honda, we dont need a 240 in a wall:thinker

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I'm sure if your friend has $3,500 to spend I rather grab a 240sx 91 or older, and do a swap. My friend did just that. He grabbed a high mileage 240sx w/ 200k+ on it, body and interior was in great condition for $1600, then got hooked up for a full sr20 swap with most of the fixings for $2400 installed. For $4000 the 240sx halls major ***. I understand that these prices were about 1-1 1/2 yrs ago. ANd not all people have hook ups to engines and stuff. but if you try hard enough you can get parts cheaply. Plus CRXs don't come in good condition like 240sx do. And I think CRX are plaid out. I see rice boys with CRXs thinking they can wipe on anyones butt. With a 240sx w/sr20 you can pass the crx w/b16a 3 times over.

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they make great "daily drivers" and are a lot quicker stock and handle like crazy!!!! i'm sorry to say that my 240 will outhandle my Z28 in lateral acceleration. now on the straight-away............well..........that's a different story.

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Infamous wrote:id let him buy the honda, we dont need a 240 in a wall:thinker
:rotflmao

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Is he going to race the CRX or 240? If he's going with a daily driver, just get the CRX. Honda makes reliable cars and parts for a CRX are cheap and interchangable between other Hondas. I have a Civic and 240 myself. It's freakin easy to locate replacement parts for my Civic in case anything goes bad, but as for the 240, parts don't come so easily.

I believe that the 240 out performs the CRX in every aspect of driving. And I also believe that if the SUV craze never took off in the 90's, Nissan sport car sales wouldve done better. It's about damn time people are getting tired of minivans and SUVs. Thanks to the S2000, MR2 Spyder, RX-8, and 350Z, sports cars are finally making a come back. Ok, I'm getting a bit side tracked, anyways, I'm going to play devil's advocate again.. Tell him to buy a HONDA. Then in a few months, you'll be saying, "I told you so, I told you so."

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CRX with a B16 will do a good 14.8 Stock.

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14.8 1/8th of a mile? ahahaha

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howza bout let him stay an H boy so we don't have another ricer "crashing into a wall" w/ an already becoming rare 240. I don't know anything about your friend, but being an FF guy, he'll probably make a 240 swap ends before he can utter "Daaaayuuumm Yoooo!!!" Remember, they weren't produced in big #'s in the U.S. and they (Nissan) aren't going to make any more. Protect our precious endangered species.

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What nationality is your friend? If he is not hispanic, tell him not to buy the CRX. I am sure he will understand. :ylsuper

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CRX'a are good but still not true sports cars like 240, How I see it is: CRX's are to 240s like 240s are to lambos/ferraris, the 240 is just so much more "mature" and refined, sleek interior and a nice practical looking exterior. Both have modding capability but the Rex will always be a buzzing bee and the 240 will always have more class...

BUUUUT... as far as the dilemma, get either for now, I mean, come on guys, you wont have the next car forever and you can buy or sell at any time. Ya know, have one for 6 months then sell and buy the other, get to know what you want...

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To me, its as easy as FWD drive vs RWD, both are good reliable cars...But to me, I LOVE the handling of the 240 SX! Great underrated true sports car!

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wow, i didnt even realise that someone dug this tread out of no-where.

OK, you can let this thread die, he already bought a 98 240sx SE.

BTW, he's not an idiot or a ricer. He had dry rotted tires on, i explaned this already, he is a very capable drive, it just wasnt a smart move putting on old tires...

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good 4 him :)

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Quote »Dude, a mild tune b16a in a CRX (rex) will wipe out the turbo prelude. Why? Because the lude weighs 3500 and the rex weighs 2000. [/quote]Um, exaggerate much? A Prelude does NOT weigh 3500 fkng pounds, more like 3000 even. A CAMARO weighs 3500 lbs; I'd be pretty pissed off if I bought a 4-banger Honda and found it it weighed THAT much :P

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a crx looks like a terd on steroids. there is all the reason you need!!!


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