why all the CA ignorance?

[Dattebayo]

Eery time i look around the forum and it's SR this, SR that.

I like to glance into the CA forum every once in a while and i usually find these guys putting down alot of power and good track times, like low 12's and high 11's.

So why is everybody so SR crazy like you shouldn't even bother with the CA? I (like most people on this forum) am not going to make a huge 500 hp beast and only want a quick turbo engine to haul my heavy a ss around town and maybe get some track action on weekends. Its kind of perplexing to not hear anything outside of the dedicated forum.

[S13 King]

its a cool motor

[ArticDragon192]

I like the motor. It's like a mini RB, iron block and turbo stock :-D I'd put one in, but I'd rather work with the KA.

[KDashy]

Although I think it holds its own many people consider it the " I couldnt afford an SR so I got this" engine.

[Dattebayo]

i could definately say that too.

There used to be alot of bashing going on here back in 2001, but its like they've all retreated to their little forum area... its kind of sad cause i think ill be buying one soon and i dont want to end up marooned from the rest.

I think its cool too, and i like how it has different problems and solutions than the SR, and has higher torque than most motors it's size.

[KDashy]

yeah, but the engine is getting up there in years, it might be hard to find a good one soon.

[sleepyRPS13]

maybe in a few years it will be rare as fJ20's

[rico05]

The problem lies in the fact that the American mentality is that bigger is always better. When I see the Sport Compact Car the issue that detailed the birth of Porject Silvia, they played off the CA as the goofy kid brother of the S13/S14 swap motors. Most people just have no clue about the CA so they assume things. I chose the CA over the SR, not because I couldn't afford the SR. The CA is a superior motor, blendig the best parts of the motors that Nissan produced at the time and came from the same design pot as the VG and RB series motors. I'll say it once and I'll say it forever: The SR20DET was ONLY produced because the CA was too pricey to construct to continue to sell it in a low priced car, so the SR was born in all of its cost cutting glory. The SR is a fantastic motor, but I'll keep my 1.8l of Fury thank you very much

O, and mine was $1300 to get it to my house, and came with ~45k miles.

[dfw240_EE]

Anyone know of a good place to find CA's? I wouldn't mind considering the CA as an option. Any websites with the specs on the CA?

[f s t caz]

Eery time i look around the forum and it's SR this, SR that.

So why is everybody so SR crazy like you shouldn't even bother with the CA?

with such a small aftermarket, its easy to understand why people don't talk about them. The SR is like a honduh when it comes to aftermarket parts. nearly everything has already been made for it and made by several companies. If you can find a part for the CA, it'll probably be coming from Japan, carrying a hefty price tag and be from one of 3 companies (Tomei, GReddy, HKS) or it's actually for another car but someone on the interweb discovered it could be used(read dsm injectors). and, as far as i know, there are no step by step install guides on the interweb like there are for the SR. That alone is probably enough to keep a lot of people at bay. But, its a neat motor and I'll be very pleased when I get mine back w/ a whole slew of new parts to install
Modified by f s t caz at 1:18 PM 10/20/2004

[f s t caz]

Anyone know of a good place to find CA's? I wouldn't mind considering the CA as an option. Any websites with the specs on the CA?

sticky for where to buy a CA motorpersonally, i went through Boost boy and was very pleased with what i recieved. J-Hot, Jarrco sell quality front clips. member Pulsar_gtr can also supply a motor set. I'd recommend steering clear of venus auto based on their history on several forums.

spec's post

[Altiman94]

If I were a ca owner I'd be happy abotu all the SR hype. It keeps the prices down for those who do choose the ca route.

[f s t caz]

If I were a ca owner I'd be happy abotu all the SR hype.

[Doomed2Walk]

CA may be cheaper to buy and install, but looking for parts to upgrade or if things break is harder for the CA. As great as the motor is, with the SR's popularity peaking, finding replacement parts and aftermarket support is much easier.

[Dattebayo]

I never thought about the overshadowing thing, but i have made up my mind. I guess ill be the only CA powered sileighty i know qround here.

But i am going to need alot of help with the upgrades i can do get it down to about 13 sec QM. I hope it will be cheap enough to afford over time...

[iliketocrash]

a 13 second 1/4 mile is easier than you think. :-)

[574-240sx]

I guess if I was going to go through the trouble of swapping I would go with the SR. I guess if I got a decent price on a CA I wouldn't turn it down. I'm a KA-T at heart.

[drifter_for_life06]

i know too much to turn away from SR and go CA. id be lost in that relm

[Hijacker]

every motor has it's plusses and minuses. The one thing you have to remember is that the SR is an evolution of the old L series motor, so I would say it shares a bit more than some would think with the RB.

The main issue comes down to the aftermarket support. Since the SR was kept in the S chassis for so long, there's just way too much aftermarket support for it.

I have driven a CA powered hatch with a turbo upgrade. It scared the **** out of me once the boost kicked in (and it kicked in LOW). And that's coming from an SR owner.

[drifter_for_life06]

i would like to ride in one or drive one for that matter. SR is still mind-blowing to me but if boost kicks in as low as you make it out, i gotta find someone with a CA.

hmmmm......or start new project

[[Zero-S]]

I have *driven* caz's rhd CA. Man oh man was that fun...

[drifter_for_life06]

lucky ba5tard

[supra brit]

The only thing that draws me away from a CA is the scarcity of parts for it...

I don't know, if I found a good deal for one and had the money though...I couldn't say no...

[drifter_for_life06]

thats a good point one80 ^^^ the fact that the SR motor is becoming liek Honda motors almost(well there isnt any parts in JC Whtney yet so we still arent that bad) CA is vertually unherd of outside these forums and the Nissan community

[supra brit]

thats a good point one80 ^^^ the fact that the SR motor is becoming liek Honda motors almost(well there isnt any parts in JC Whtney yet so we still arent that bad) CA is vertually unherd of outside these forums and the Nissan community

Exactly. I am so sick of seeing SR's EVERYWHERE, and having everyone and their mom's ask me if I have one in my 240...

To me, 202hp to the crank isn't all that impressive, or at the least not worth all the money and hastle involved with a swap (for a gain of what, 67hp? For $2500-$3000, my car would be making at least 400!

[drifter_for_life06]

true that

correct me if im wrong but isnt it 205?

[supra brit]

true that

correct me if im wrong but isnt it 205?

Meh, close enough. 202-207hp, varying from blacktop to redtop I assume. Slightly more on the s15 SR's, I don't know. I'm not an SR connoiseur.

[drifter_for_life06]

red an black top 205

notch and S15 250

once again someone say somthing if i am wrong

[nsrZ32]

If i was building an s13 I'd go CA without a doubt. You can get a clean solid CA clip for peanuts compared to what the SR costs. And don't shoot me, but I have this fear that the SR is this becoming what the b series was a few years ago for hondas. I see it EVERYWHERE. Not that it isn't a fantastic motor, because the SR is amazing. Still I'd go CA tho

Also.....I know you one80sxy....ran into you on cardomain a couple days ago.

[drifter_for_life06]

only comment i have on that last post ^^^ is that sooner than the Honda craze SR/Nissan will die out, they are getting harder to find quality and quantity for good price and more and mroe states are mking it harder for them to pass emissions

take my county for example, this past february we just got emission testing