Who think's its possible to turbo a KA in 1 day?
Who think's its possible to turbo a KA in 1 day?
Ok so one day I plan to turbo my S14, and I really need to do it in ONE day. If I purchased a turbo kit, pre-modified another oil pan to swap in, and I had all the various tools to do the install, do you think its possible to turbo it, and get it running in one day? I need it done in one day because I have no other daily drivers, and my parents can't find out I turbo'd my car.
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I installed an HKS turbine kit on my Skyline in 4 1/2 hours. Including the new lines and FMIC. But I've been an aircraft mechanic for the last 10 years...The average Joe could probably do it. Assuming you have all the parts and pieces prior to starting the job. The best thing to do is become completely familiar with the parts and how it goes together prior to beginning. Perhaps modify your car for the FMIC and anything else a few days before.
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pornflakes is right, Murphy's law is a bi**h. you can plan to do it all in one day but if it's your first time putting in a turbo, and you aren't very mechanically inclined then you'll probally run into a few problems then have to deal with getting your old stuff back in so your parents don't find out and you still have a car. You should talk it over with them. That way if you it doesn't work out only problem will be not haveing a ride instead of haveing to face the parents.
Yeah I see what you guys mean. I can't talk to my parents, because they dont believe in modifying cars. I gotta do it secretly, and in one day. If I do it, I'm gonna do several things ahead of time, so when the install day comes, it will be as quick, and trouble-free as possible. I'll have another oil pan already modded with the fittings, and I'll fit in the intercooler before, so that I don't have to do any cutting that day. Besides that, I plan to have another motor already built, with the turbo installed on it, so now it will become more like a motor swap.
I would suggest finding a good friend with a garage you can use, and go over to thier house and "spend the night" and that way you can have the better part of a day and all night and then the morning until you need to go home as it not to be suspicious, thats good for atleast 20 straight hours of work. But believe me, some bumps will come up if you arn't expierenced with cars. I know it took me and my band of MENSA buddies 45 minutes of trying to pry off a heat shield, and then we thought that maybe we could get to the 02 sensor (which has a special hole for it cut through the heat shield therefor keeping us from taking it off) nut from UNDER the car. So just dont think laterally or anything if you hit a bump, that's the little advice I have to offer.
I was not trying to be a jerk, sorry if I came off that way, I am just being realistic. Although I forgot that he will be using a prefab kit most likely, which definitely makes things easier. It still does not guarantee success though. I think that if he has to ask if he can hide it from his parents then he probably is not experienced enough to do it in a day. :P
Plus, like people said, things WILL go wrong. It's the nature of the beast.
Actually I guess I should be more specific; I was not picking on him specifically, I was just saying anyone who has as little experience as he appears to have will not be able to pull it off in such short time. Nothing personal.. just facts. I know I couldn't either.
Plus, like people said, things WILL go wrong. It's the nature of the beast.
Actually I guess I should be more specific; I was not picking on him specifically, I was just saying anyone who has as little experience as he appears to have will not be able to pull it off in such short time. Nothing personal.. just facts. I know I couldn't either.
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no to bring down th aprty, but how do u plan on keeping your parents from seeing the 3+ gauges you need, the FMIC, and that pssssss when your driving? you'll need at leastmaybe 2 other people to work on it, i think. one for the electronics, etc, 2 for the engine, if your swapping, to make it smoother, maybe, thats my .02(correct me if im wrong, please)(no sarcasm intended))
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Red Lightning
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I don't think you can do it in one day. Me and my friend swaped a Saturn motor in 3 days. It's a first time for both of us. We got the tools, just something unexpected like when we installed the engine, there's no spark, so we have to trouble shoot.
If you have to do it secretly, find a friend that had swapped engine before, have a digi cam and take picture of every plug you pulled, then you might be able to do it in 1 day. But I would say 2 day is more realistic. Good Luck.
If you have to do it secretly, find a friend that had swapped engine before, have a digi cam and take picture of every plug you pulled, then you might be able to do it in 1 day. But I would say 2 day is more realistic. Good Luck.
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matt4pl wrote:no to bring down th aprty, but how do u plan on keeping your parents from seeing the 3+ gauges you need, the FMIC, and that pssssss when your driving? you'll need at leastmaybe 2 other people to work on it, i think. one for the electronics, etc, 2 for the engine, if your swapping, to make it smoother, maybe, thats my .02(correct me if im wrong, please)(no sarcasm intended))
Yep, your wrong...only need a boost gauge. No electronics of any kind and 1 guy can do it himself. As far as the pshhh goes, you should be running a BOV that vents to return anyway, so that will eliminate alot of the noise.
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Not to be an *** but maybe you should rethink things.
First, this is your only car and your daily driver, something goes wrong, your sh*t out of luck, and your parents find out when they send the car to a mechanic.
Second, you hurry your install to hit your one day time frame and you miss something as you are hurrying through things. Your screwed.
Third, if your worried about your parents finding out that means your either way young or to damn dependent on your parents. Either of which would suggest to me you shouldn't be doing this as you much have a lack of responsibility.
Fourth, if you were smart use your money elsewhere as in saving for a college education or invest it instead of blowing it.
Fifth, if I knew your parents I would give em a call, not to be an *** or anything but it would probably be doing you a favor later on when you think about what your doing.
Sixth, if you still want to go fast, buy your self a beater car with the money and save again for a turbo kit. That way you have some sort of vehicle. 3000 grand or what ever it takes for you to get a turbo kit could be a nice beater you could strip to hell and use for fun.
First, this is your only car and your daily driver, something goes wrong, your sh*t out of luck, and your parents find out when they send the car to a mechanic.
Second, you hurry your install to hit your one day time frame and you miss something as you are hurrying through things. Your screwed.
Third, if your worried about your parents finding out that means your either way young or to damn dependent on your parents. Either of which would suggest to me you shouldn't be doing this as you much have a lack of responsibility.
Fourth, if you were smart use your money elsewhere as in saving for a college education or invest it instead of blowing it.
Fifth, if I knew your parents I would give em a call, not to be an *** or anything but it would probably be doing you a favor later on when you think about what your doing.
Sixth, if you still want to go fast, buy your self a beater car with the money and save again for a turbo kit. That way you have some sort of vehicle. 3000 grand or what ever it takes for you to get a turbo kit could be a nice beater you could strip to hell and use for fun.
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You can do a turbo in stages without losing the use of your car for more than 1 day at a time. Mine ended up that way just beacuase of certain circumstances. I bought a used XS kit. It was still on a car. I was asked to pull the turbo kit and re-install the factory parts and it reducd the cost of the kit by $700. I pulled all the parts, which was fine, but then I wanted her oil pan so I would not have to have a bung welded on mine. I swapped mine and hers. So the oil pan was done then.
I installed the intercooler a few weekends later. I did it just before a meet, so I just stopped there. The intercooler did require some cutting, so it was a good thing to do it this way. The cutting took longer than I had anticipated since it involved a lot of trial and error.
The next weekend, I put on the rest of the kit. Didn't lose use of the car for more than 1 day at a time.
I installed the intercooler a few weekends later. I did it just before a meet, so I just stopped there. The intercooler did require some cutting, so it was a good thing to do it this way. The cutting took longer than I had anticipated since it involved a lot of trial and error.
The next weekend, I put on the rest of the kit. Didn't lose use of the car for more than 1 day at a time.
It can probably be done in one day because I'm going to have many things before hand. Example: I'll have another engine built, and the kit already installed on it. Prefit intercooler, order a JWT ecu ahead of time. Oil pan already modded and on new engine. I'll even install a higher flowing fuel pump, and an upgraded clutch ahead of time. When the time comes, I'll swap in the new motor, install the intercooler which should be easy because I had cut and fit everything ahead of time, install the JWT ecu, and the rest should be pretty much bolt on because I'm using the turbo kit, instead of custom.
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what?! you can't install a turbo kit in one day?
honestly, if you have all the necessary parts, tools, and even a few friends to help, you still may not be able to do it. just like WDRacing said, experience and know how are the determining factors as to how fast you get it done.
6 1/2 years ago if you told me that i would be able to remove, tear down, rebuild, and reinstall a diesel engine in a day (yes, i can) i would have said you were nuts. now that i'm a nerd on the subject, i can do it in my sleep.
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honestly, if you have all the necessary parts, tools, and even a few friends to help, you still may not be able to do it. just like WDRacing said, experience and know how are the determining factors as to how fast you get it done.
6 1/2 years ago if you told me that i would be able to remove, tear down, rebuild, and reinstall a diesel engine in a day (yes, i can) i would have said you were nuts. now that i'm a nerd on the subject, i can do it in my sleep.
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i know you only need a boost gauge, but isnt it a good idea to get a few other essentials? and as far as electronics, i was refering to the ecu (no prb), turbo timer, if needed, and a boost controller (somewhat useful, id say), and yeah, a recirculating BOV is quieter, i know, you can always put some of that mesh grill stuff over the intercooler to disguise it, but i dunno........