Who's actually DONE an LS1 / 240SX swap?

Post by **crzycav86** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:04 pm

http://www.houston240sx.com/fo...16044

ls1 swap into an s14. The guy is really friendly, so don't hesitate to ask him questions on aim.

Post by **Swedish Mike** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:44 am

Guys, a few fast LS1 questions. Is this engine used in C5? Both heads and block in aluminum?

Thanks!

Post by **WDRacing** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:41 pm

The C5 has the LS6 or LS7 IIRC, but all LSx engines are aluminum block and head. Which is one of the biggest reasons people are swapping them in. The LS1 actually weighs less then the KA24DE. Stock internals are good for 600WHP...its a good motor.

WD

Post by **the_momo** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:49 pm

take a stroll through this...youll solidify your decision. its not simply the lsx, its the sbc in general. just amazing really.

http://www.turbobuick.com/foru...sions/

there are people using 106mm turbines. thats unreal.

Post by **WDRacing** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:54 pm

I used to use that forum all the time for alcohol injection info...good guys.

Post by **neoamd** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:40 am

WDRacing wrote:The C5 has the LS6 or LS7 IIRC, but all LSx engines are aluminum block and head. Which is one of the biggest reasons people are swapping them in. The LS1 actually weighs less then the KA24DE. Stock internals are good for 600WHP...its a good motor.

WD

Wrong.

C5 = LS1 C5Z06 = LS6C6 = LS2C6Z06 = LS7Camaros = LS1T/A / FireBird = LS1GTO = LS2

And the difference between the LS1/LS6 is different intake mani/cam/and better heads.. So swap out those parts and it the same damn thing, sounds the same.

Post by **neoamd** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:46 am

mikespeed95 wrote:hinson kit is boop. stay away. speaking from 1st hand experience.

Well I will post up my experience from his kit etc as he is putting my LS1 FD together for me right now.

Post by **neoamd** » Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:47 am

tonynalli wrote:
It's too bad that none of us will be able to hear that exact sound. What you have my friend is a kick *** version of the ls1. If this swap is in my future, I would only be able to afford a lightly used ls1, it will be from an older camaro.

But that sound that z06 makes is intense

He replaced everythign that made it a LS6..

Kick *** version of the LS1 = different head/intake mani

Post by **Turbo-Zone_com** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:45 am

With your permission WDracing and enough interest, I'd like to offer an alternative to the HSC kit for the swap to an LS1. We all know parts are expensive, so a less expensive alternative is a nice welcome.

A little background on us. We've been in the fabrication/performance/turbo arena for over 12 years. Our fastest vehicle to date is our own Street Bike Shootout bike with a time of 7.80 at 186mph in the 1/4 mile. We won 2 National Championships with it so far.

Thanks for your time, we're always around for questions if you may have some. Thanks again!

John C.

Post by **WDRacing** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:00 pm

By all means, post away. Any info you guys can provide along with actual mounting options etc is always a good thing.

WD

Post by **Turbo-Zone_com** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:01 pm

Thanks again for the extended courtesy, we'll try to help where we can.

Post by **GTR PrYdE** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 11:14 am

That sure would be a nice alternative to the HSC kit... Myabe by release I could be able to afford it! Any more info on the kit?

Post by **574-240sx** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:07 am

Also some of the late 01/02 LS1 motors in the camaro/TAs have LS6 blocks. I checked my block number and I have an LS6 block.

Post by **mxd6** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:46 pm

neoamd wrote:
Wrong.

C5 = LS1 C5Z06 = LS6C6 = LS2C6Z06 = LS7Camaros = LS1T/A / FireBird = LS1GTO = LS2

And the difference between the LS1/LS6 is different intake mani/cam/and better heads.. So swap out those parts and it the same damn thing, sounds the same.

The LS1 with 350HP/365 FT/LBS. torque came in the 2004 GTO - that is the engine going in my 97 240SX, w/6 speed, headers and cold air intake - stock, it is the most powerful LS1 made. It will smoke the WS6 T/A and SS.With 5,700 miles on the drive train, it's not even broken in. With the GTO fuel rail cover it's going look good under the hood - 10" on the back, fully upgraded suspension and a bunch of other goodies, it's not going to be easy for any N/A or turbo to touch it. The drive train alone set me back $6k.Later a cam and a little head work will take it way over 400HP/475 torque. King of the NISSAN's will be ready in April - Houston, TX.

http://www.speedfetishperforma...id=19

Post by **GTR PrYdE** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:20 pm

bump for info

Post by **breadbox** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:46 am

I want to ride in a V-8 240sx. I see no viable reason to swap it and use it as a daily. d!ck said the v-8 gets better mileage too? What are the numbers on that?

Post by **JustinStrife** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 6:56 pm

mxd6 wrote:
The LS1 with 350HP/365 FT/LBS. torque came in the 2004 GTO - that is the engine going in my 97 240SX, w/6 speed, headers and cold air intake - stock, it is the most powerful LS1 made. It will smoke the WS6 T/A and SS.With 5,700 miles on the drive train, it's not even broken in. With the GTO fuel rail cover it's going look good under the hood - 10" on the back, fully upgraded suspension and a bunch of other goodies, it's not going to be easy for any N/A or turbo to touch it. The drive train alone set me back $6k.Later a cam and a little head work will take it way over 400HP/475 torque. King of the NISSAN's will be ready in April - Houston, TX.

http://www.speedfetishperforma...id=19

Actually, if you got the 01'-04' C5 Corvette with the 6spd manual, you got 350hp/375ft/tq. 4spd automatics give you 360ft/tq with the same hp. Probably the same with the GTO.

The 01' LS1's(LS6 block and intake manifold essentially), and 01' LS6's also are notorious for using a little bit of oil. 00's and 02's, don't have that problem(I should know my 01' burns about 1 qt every 2-3k miles).

97-00' Ls1's from the C5's also produce 345hp and not 350, but same tq. Different cam settings that were changed in 01(it wasn't the intake manifold that netted the 5 extra hp as they don't give you much power gain until you start running boost).

As for gas mileage, my 95' 240sx automatic gave me 18-20mpg daily driving, and 26mpg freeway driving 80 on average. My 01' C5 automatic gives me 17(since I installed the exhaust and picked up a lead foot; and I use to get 19-20mpg before) daily driving, and 25-26mpg freeway driving 90-100mph. The DIC says I get 28-32mpg driving 80-85 turning 1800rpms in overdrive. At 140 it said I was getting 20.4mpg!!

Oh ya and I was only turning 3200rpms(with a 6250 redline) at the time.

Post by **breadbox** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:22 am

would the better mileage come from the lighter car?

Post by **WDRacing** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:35 am

Gas mileage is very much related to throttle tip in and available torque. By requiring less torque and lower throttle angles, the ecu accesses the higher flowing fuel maps alot less.

So its not so much the motor getting better mileage, its the encompassing situation and environment in which it is used.

A new exhaust has been shown to make you lose gas mileage when in theory, it will improve it. The reason for this is the natural craving to hear the noise emitted from the exhaust with frequent throttle stabs or aggressive driving styles in general.

The Geo Metro can get 50MPG, but it was shown to get close to 30MPG is real world driving with an agressive driver.

WD

Post by **Ramsie** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:15 pm

Im really interested in how much this type of swap cost and the time that goes into it...

I just baught 2 240sx's and im builing a drift car before the winter time... [dont bash me for this but...] I dont like anything about the way a import sounds.... Ive had experiance with several LSX based engines and they are wonderful. I have a LS1/Built T-56 already - so I figured its worth a shot.

Post by **WDRacing** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:46 pm

Well if the LSx is going into a drift car, some solid motor mounts should be really straight forward. Also, see if you can get a Skyline subframe. It won't have to be cut and it allows for shorty headers to work. That just leaves the clutch issue and tranny support. I'd just make custom lines for the clutch.

WD

Post by **GTR PrYdE** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:11 pm

any word from turbo-zone about them building parts for the swap?XAT Racing now has a full LS1 240 swap, it costs from 11k-14k, I just emailed them about DIY parts

Post by **WDRacing** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:18 pm

Does the 11K include the 240SX?? If so then its a good deal, otherwise...CRACK PIPES ARE US should be there new name....

Post by **Turbo-Zone_com** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:20 pm

We had a locate on a mock-up car but with all the snow that fell through. No way to transport it...our trailer is buried. We're actively looking for a car still or, if someone who is relatively local, wants to do the swap, we can work out a barter.

Give us a call - 315.395.6525

Thanks!

Post by **XofXtimeX** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:27 pm

Well at 11k it is still cheaper then Hinson so it's a little better, not that it is still worth it though...They only have the turn key packages on there site though which is kind of annoying.

GTR PrYdE if you get responce of DIY parts would you mind posting them on this thread or e-mailing me at [email protected] what you find out?

Post by **WDRacing** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:39 pm

I'm such a DIY guy, I always see things as to expensive. Thats always my problem. I have to remember that shops have to do high quality work to avoid getting sued and then they have to have a profit margine as well. I have a hard getting outside the box sometimes...lol.

WD

Post by **redtop91** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 12:43 pm

WDRacing wrote:I have a hard getting outside the box sometimes

Post by **WDRacing** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:14 pm

From what I hear, you have trouble getting any "box" at all

Post by **redtop91** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 1:19 pm

Ha! Time for a new intelligence team.

Post by **Ramsie** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 5:10 pm

11k for a swap and your out your mind...

What makes this swap so special then all the others? 11k for a LS1 swapped into a S13 and it better have a nice single turbo setup on the LS1.

I havnt heard of anything that overpriced since ive looked at Lingenfelter's website.

Who's actually DONE an LS1 / 240SX swap?

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