Who is entitled possession of car? (Story inside)

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MORONS NEED NOT REPLY, TRYING TO HELP A FRIEND!

To keep things private for the partys in question, I will lable them: Persons A,B & C.

Legend:
Person A = Title holder/Car in possession/Logical owner.
Person B = Personal loaner/Financeer
Person C = Person who sold the car



My question involves vehicle registration or title in the state of: FL

Here is the story:

Person A wants to buy car.

Person B offers to pay for car and let person A repay by monthly payments. (did this twice before, no problems) No written agreement, just verbal.

Person A faxes handwritten contract to seller, person C. Contract states that seller, person C, will release car and title on completion of payment. Person B ( funds provider) is not mentioned in agreement as part of it.

Meanwhile, person B makes half payment. Next payment due two weeks later. (3,500/7,000)

Person C agrees.

Person B doesn't make payment on time. Having money problems. Two months pass, and person A is frequently recieving calls from Person C wanting his money.

Person B difficult to reach and is putting person A on the spot. Money issues.

Person B finally makes second payment, but not in full as agreed. (5,500/7,000 Paid at this point)

No more payments from Person B after that. There is still a balance due of 1500.00 on 7,000 car.

6 more months pass and Person A pays off remainder of balance himself, (7,000/7,000 Transaction Complete) and acquires car/title/bill of sale made out in Person A's name, Signed by Person C, No mention of Person B.

Person B is now demanding title, threatening Person A with police for theft. Is demanding Person A turn over title now, or pay full amount owed now. Threatened to come with police escorts to take 'his' car and title.

Remember, all verbal, except between A and C who had handwritten agreement. Person B only provided funds through bank transfers to person C.


Person A wants to make payments to Person B as originally agreed, but Person B want it all now, or the title, which has not been registered with the DMV But has been signed by Person A and Person C.

Is this a police matter? What rights does person A have to keep title and make payments to B? What rights to person B have since they put up most of the funding?

Any help is appreciated! I will try and answer questions on my friends behalf to the best of my ability/knowledge.

[IanS]

person a should register the vehicle in thier name.

person a should then make payments as planned.

if person b is unhappy, then they can go kick rocks.

person a has both posetion of the vehicle and its title. possesion is nine tenths of the law.

person b hass no proof of anything.

bank statemnts show only money changing hands, no mention of why. quite possobly a gift, that spiteful person b is attempting to retract.

person b can accept origanal plan despite the fact they mucked things up in the first place, or they can wallow in thier own stupidity for not putting anything down on paper.

register the car NOW. that way if person b tries something stupid, they can be held legaly responsible.

[Encryptshun]

^ This

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person a should register the vehicle in thier name.

person a should then make payments as planned.

if person b is unhappy, then they can go kick rocks.

person a has both posetion of the vehicle and its title. possesion is nine tenths of the law.

person b hass no proof of anything.

bank statemnts show only money changing hands, no mention of why. quite possobly a gift, that spiteful person b is attempting to retract.

person b can accept origanal plan despite the fact they mucked things up in the first place, or they can wallow in thier own stupidity for not putting anything down on paper.

register the car NOW. that way if person b tries something stupid, they can be held legaly responsible.

excellent reply. will run this by my friend, anyone else have any insight? or is this enough? if person B attempts to enter property of person A to retrieve the car, can person A Call police on Person B?

[4cefed]

If person A has the car in possession, has it titled to themselves and is registered to themselves, it's person a's car. (No lien on the title right?) Person b can try suing in small claims court... lotsa luck with that. Even if they win they would have to pay to have a sheriff actually DO something about it.

And if person b "retrieves" car, the police can absolutely be called. The title is the proof of ownership. That piece of paper tells authorities who's car it is. Regardless.

[Ridiculous Wobble]

If person A has the car in possession, has it titled to themselves and is registered to themselves, it's person a's car. (No lien on the title right?) Person b can try suing in small claims court... lotsa luck with that. Even if they win they would have to pay to have a sheriff actually DO something about it.

And if person b "retrieves" car, the police can absolutely be called. The title is the proof of ownership. That piece of paper tells authorities who's car it is. Regardless.

excellent information, thank you.

[PoorManQ45]

Pay your bills you deadbeat

[Dattebayo]

Deadbeat or not, giving someone money without any terms on paper is stupid.

That being said, whenever I borrowed money from my parents when I was on the down and out three years ago, I had to sign a contract with them. lol

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Deadbeat or not, giving someone money without any terms on paper is stupid.

That being said, whenever I borrowed money from my parents when I was on the down and out three years ago, I had to sign a contract with them. lol

pretty sure he is "trolling" either way, my friend is calling person b tmrw he says, thanks for all the help, guys. i'll let ya'll kno how it goes haha