Who honestly steals plates?

[snwbrdr435]

MA has the s*** plate laws ever. People ride around in 15 year old plates with no front

I will have my green plate forever

[PEZi]

i had a plate stolen once.... more like i forgot it somewhere and some old people picked it up (i'm assuming to make a collectors purse )

either way... its annoying... but my new plates because i was already registered were really cheap... just had to pay for the plates themselves... no other fees

[the converted]

Only reason I can see for front plates....

[PEZi]

yeah front plates are useless.... i'm currently helping someone with the CO police department to rid of them in CO

[numbnuts240]

And then it isn't allowed on the streets after dark.

IB4Tito

hey, it was broad daylight when i was sent into the house before the po-po showed up. logic flaw.

[krash]

Only Nazi states require a front and rear plate.

Please explain a reason, other then surveillance, of why it is beneficial to have a front and rear plate.

So a police officer can Identify you if he's in front of you.

And speed cameras.

And red light cameras.

And donkeys.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Delaware

Funny, because my boy Steve from Delaware was just in town this weekend, and he said he got pulled over for not having his front tag. In his home state.

Delaware has never required a front plate. I've been a Delaware resident my entire life and my car is registered in Delaware... Point being I only have the rear tag on my car.

TITLE 21
Motor Vehicles
Registration, Title and Licenses
CHAPTER 21. REGISTRATION OF VEHICLES
Subchapter II. Plates

§ 2121. Number and registration plates; provision for the issuance of special license plates to the owners of motor vehicles who operate amateur radio stations; special vanity plates.

(a) The Department shall furnish 1 number plate for each vehicle registered. The Department shall also furnish registration plates as hereinafter provided. Upon the termination of the lawful use of any such plates they shall be returned to the Department.

http://delcode.delaware.gov/title21/c02 ... ndex.shtml

[PoorManQ45]

Please explain a reason, other then surveillance, of why it is beneficial to have a front and rear plate.

Beneficial to whom? To toll authorities, makes it easier to identify EZpass/toll violaters by front or rear pictures.

If your car gets stolen (assuming you own a car worth stealing), the extra plate makes it a tad easier to spot/identify.

Best reason? Because it annoys PMQ.

When it comes to the Toll violators, that's pure BS. We have tolls here. They take a picture of your rear plate just like any other system...

And I fail to see how a front plate would help police find a car that they're not actually searching for...

[hachiroku781]

Well I got new plates today. I had to pay for them and get a new registration. Not too expensive. Nonetheless I cant even put the front plate on because numbnut that stole the plate broke the plastic that holds the plate on the front bumper. This is such a nuisance.

[PoorManQ45]

How much are the plates there?

Here they're close to $100...

It's funny, they tell you you have to turn in your plates when you get rid of a car, but you can change the old plate over to a new car for free. But there is a statute saying that they can suspend your license for keeping your plate. It's very odd...

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone getting in trouble for keeping their plate though.

[frapjap]

Here in MA, our (the OP and mine) plates are $35 for the first set. I don't know about a replacement. Then its $75 for your yearly registration. Then the state will dip into your damned pocket one more time each year for "excise tax." A tax based on the value of your car; a punishment to ownership I call it because they sure as hell aren't repaving the roads or repairing the potholes they're supposed to be spending that money on. Oh, then the lame $40 inspection per year.

[snwbrdr435]

When did you move to the peoples republic ray?

[Bubba1]

[quote="PoorManQ45"][When it comes to the Toll violators, that's pure BS. We have tolls here. They take a picture of your rear plate just like any other system...

Well, last I looked this was not the United States of florida. Every state operates its own system.

[anti_flag_army]

wow the price you guys pay for plates is a joke, I have had to get replacements twice, and it was $13 and they hand them to you right there at the dmv, even give you tools to take off the old one to turn in.

[Bubba1]

wow the price you guys pay for plates is a joke, I have had to get replacements twice, and it was $13 and they hand them to you right there at the dmv, even give you tools to take off the old one to turn in.

Which state?

[anti_flag_army]

woops, forgot im in the Good Ol' Nazi California!

[PoorManQ45]

[When it comes to the Toll violators, that's pure BS. We have tolls here. They take a picture of your rear plate just like any other system...

Well, last I looked this was not the United States of florida. Every state operates its own system.

Joel, you do realize that based on your statement one could infer that you are implying that Florida is more advanced then other states, right?

[skydragoness]

Delaware

Funny, because my boy Steve from Delaware was just in town this weekend, and he said he got pulled over for not having his front tag. In his home state.

WTF. I call shens.

Anyway. Let me go on about the fashionable antique black and white DE tags that are 5 digits or less. I've heard of a single digit tag going for $20k at auction. Ridiculous.

[Chaotic_Warlord]

Anyway. Let me go on about the fashionable antique black and white DE tags that are 5 digits or less. I've heard of a single digit tag going for $20k at auction. Ridiculous.

That is truth, those black tags are special tags that are considered to be family tags. What that means is that they are supposed to stay in the family and be handed down from generation to generation. The lower the number on the tag the older the tag, thus making it more valuable. So if you have a single digit black tag then you own one of the first tag numbers ever issued by the state. Technically you're really not supposed to sell them, but it's not really enforced. What kills me is that you can still get a black tag issued to you for a little over $50, which is $10 more than the personalized or specialty tags, but really why bother. Any of those tags that are numbered over 100 or so is just a joke.

Delaware man spends $675k on license plate 6

by Noah Joseph (RSS feed) on Feb 21st 2008 at 10:27AM

If we didn't know better, we'd think there was a lack of worthwhile ways to spend money on cars; what with all the apparently obscenely rich motorists out there dropping enormous amounts of money on license plates – the one part of the car that the rest of us take most for granted.

After the British tuner who spent $870k on UK's "F1" plate and the sheik who dropped $14.5 million on the UAE's number 1, Frank Vassallo IV of Wilmington, Delaware, just bought license plate number 6 for $675k at auction, and admittedly was prepared to spend up to a million. His family already owns Delaware plates 9, for which they paid $185k at auction in 1993, and number 27. "It's a family thing," explains Vassallo. "It's a Delaware thing." It's an I've got more money than I know what to do with thing, if you ask us. But hey, it's his money.

Low numbered tag numbers are prestigious in Delaware for some residents. The lower the number, the better, according to those who find this to be the case. The state of Delaware began issuing license plates to vehicles in 1905. Initially owners were required to make their own plates, and not until 1909 did the state issue its own first official license plate. Car owners until that time generally assigned one to three numbers on their license plate. The state began assigning numbers in 1909, starting with 1,000. This numbering was chosen because of the sporadic issuing of numbers under 1,000 and of poor record keeping of them until that time.2

The Delaware General Assembly reserved tag numbers 1, 2, and 3 were for the Governor, Lieutenant Governor, and the Secretary of State respectively in 1935. License plate numbers from four upwards remained in the general circulation.2

Nowadays many car owners and their families covet lower numbered tags in the state of Delaware. Tags are transferable from vehicle to vehicle, may be sold from Delawarean to Delawarean, or reassigned to other family members. The Division of Motor Vehicles only levies a $20 fee for the transfer of a tag number from one owner to another. Tag numbers that are not maintained run the risk of ceding back to the State and returned to general circulation.

The rage of low license plate numbers fetches some outrageous tag number sales in the state of Delaware. In 1994 the sale of Delaware tag #9 garnered $182,500 and in 2005 Delaware tag #170 sold for $115,000.2 Some four-digit plates can bring over $10,000 to the prospective seller. Other states where low numbered tags draw such attention include Washington, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Illinois, and the District of Columbia.

To add to the fever behind low numbered tags in the state of Delaware, owners of low number plates may opt to purchase a replica of 1942-era license plates to display on their vehicle in place of the standard gold on blue tag. Through the Delaware Historic Plate Company, porcelain license plates may be purchased and displayed on passenger vehicles with tag numbers lower than 87,000, and commercial vehicles with tag numbers lower then C9999. The yearly fee for these tags is $60.

Low license plate numbers may be available from the DMV in addition to those being sold by current tag owners. Delaware DMV occasionally has eligible tag numbers available when numbers cede back to the state by owners who either left the state, sold their car to an out of stater, or otherwise let their plates expire. Those interested must inquire with the DMV about availability.

The Delaware Historic Plate Company web site provides information pertaining to the legal requirements, cost, and history of the black and white tags found on Delaware roads. Additionally the company is now authorized to remake stainless steel black and white tags for tag numbers through to 200000, commercial vehicles through to C50000 and PC plates to PC9999.

[skydragoness]

I stand corrected.

6 digit range?

[Chaotic_Warlord]

The crazy thing is that the Vassallo family owns like 17 of those tags.

http://www.delawaretoday.com/Delaware-T ... on-Plates/

“We currently own a total of 17 low-digit plates that we feel are worth somewhere between $3 million and $3.4 million,” Vassalo says...
...In addition to owning the two single-digit plates, the family business, Fusco Properties, owns more than a half-dozen two-digit plates and an even larger number of three-digit plates.
Because the plates must remain registered with the Division of Motor Vehicles to hold their value, the family maintains a fleet of 17 cars to display them. By itself, an unregistered tag is worth nothing more than the materials it’s made of.

[skydragoness]

Oh I heard about that guy. He has them on his white panel vans too.

[Bubba1]

Here in MA, our (the OP and mine) plates are $35 for the first set. I don't know about a replacement. Then its $75 for your yearly registration. Then the state will dip into your damned pocket one more time each year for "excise tax." A tax based on the value of your car; a punishment to ownership I call it because they sure as hell aren't repaving the roads or repairing the potholes they're supposed to be spending that money on. Oh, then the lame $40 inspection per year.

I suppose someone has to pay for that infamous Big Dig's cost overrun.

I guess PA is not all that bad in comparison. It's $36 for an annual car registration, but you do have to pay for the annual inspection (pass or fail) but whether you are required to take an emissions test depends on the "air quality" of your county.

[hachiroku781]

Here in MA, our (the OP and mine) plates are $35 for the first set. I don't know about a replacement. Then its $75 for your yearly registration. Then the state will dip into your damned pocket one more time each year for "excise tax." A tax based on the value of your car; a punishment to ownership I call it because they sure as hell aren't repaving the roads or repairing the potholes they're supposed to be spending that money on. Oh, then the lame $40 inspection per year.

I suppose someone has to pay for that infamous Big Dig's cost overrun.

I guess PA is not all that bad in comparison. It's $36 for an annual car registration, but you do have to pay for the annual inspection (pass or fail) but whether you are required to take an emissions test depends on the "air quality" of your county.

Well total cost this year for me owning a car in MA. $30 for inspection. $40 for new plates $200 Excise tax for Lynn, and I got $50 excise tax for the MR2 which I havent owned in years. $25 dollar ticket for parking next to my house,(my driveway is on another st and they said I cant park next to my driveway). But like bubba said I think we really are paying so much because that cluster**** of the big dig. The big green Elevated highway really didnt bother me to begin with. Now instead of the highway we have a park with a FOUNTAIN!!!! oh joy.

[hachiroku781]

When did you move to the peoples republic ray?

We really are a socialist state. In all honesty I think my dead communist Grandfather would have loved it here. He was part of the communist rebels back when Greece fought its civil war.