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I'm entering my fourth (and final?) year at UC San Diego majoring in Computer Science. I intern at Websense doing software testing for a cool $15/hr (and they've already professed interest in hiring me full time when I graduate). Unfortunately for me I want to write code, not test it. My parents also pay for my car insurance, but I have paid for everything else I have needed since the beginning of last summer (including my car and its maintenance). I'm 20, 21 in September.
I tried to be a rebel for a few years, then sucked it up and got over it -- BECAUSE STARVING SUCKS A-S-S.
Now my folks pay for private university tuition, hooked me up with a cushy part-time desk job at one of their cardiology clinics, give me food, shelter, and in a very indirect way paid for a portion my Q.
Oh and I got fat and IT FEELS GREAT.
BOOYEAH!
-Jesda
Now my folks pay for private university tuition, hooked me up with a cushy part-time desk job at one of their cardiology clinics, give me food, shelter, and in a very indirect way paid for a portion my Q.
Oh and I got fat and IT FEELS GREAT.
BOOYEAH!
-Jesda
I work as a computer consultant. Some of my clients include the Museum of Contemporary Art (MOCA), Lawry's Restaurants, the cities of Los Alamitos and Cypress, and a bunch of other random companies.
Maybe one day I'll go back to school and get a degree in psychology just to say that I have the piece of paper.
Maybe one day I'll go back to school and get a degree in psychology just to say that I have the piece of paper.
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cys19 wrote:You know what pisses me off even more? People who are rich but say they're not rich. Those are the real p******. I'm not name calling anyone on NICO. Just sharing an experience about how some people don't believe there are actually others out there who just aren't as fortunate and, moreover, try to accuse others of lying about how tough it is for them. I know someone like this personally. They're usually one of those who lack "common sense."
As I agree with your premise that preception is reality, I would wager to say that those people who are "rich" are just as in debt as the rest of us. The majority of America lives well above their means, this is nothing new.
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Cold_Zero wrote:As I agree with your premise that preception is reality, I would wager to say that those people who are "rich" are just as in debt as the rest of us. The majority of America lives well above their means, this is nothing new.
not my family, we got anual income of at the least 200,000 a year and my parents don't pay for ****. we have a normal sized house and although my dad could be driving a bimmer we drives a 96 altima.
vicki wrote:So that just means you were less fortunate. Some people still see it as their duty to care for their children and give them all that they need. That doesn';t constitute a spoiled child. At least he helps them out and works for what they give him.
I agree. My parent's didn't give me anything. I moved out when I turned 16. Not because I hated my parents or wanted for anything, but because it was my time to move out in my eyes. If I *REALLY* wanted something I am sure that they would have tried to get it for me. But I figured if I wanted something I would just get it for myself.
I don't know how many of y'all here are parents but I am. A single one to be exact.
Point being that my kids don't particularly want for anything. HOWEVER, they are not spoiled. They do not get everything they ask for and on occasion they even have to EARN what they get.
If they REALLY want something that they've seen on TV or whatever, they end up having to do chores and such around the house to earn it.
They don't throw tantrums in stores. They don't beg and whine for things. NOR do they lord what things they do have over other children that don't. My children, for the most part, behave properly and aren't jerks to anyone.
So just because a parent gives their kids what they would like to have doesn't make their kids spoiled OR anything even remotely like it.
Incidentally, my kids are 5 and 7. Which is pretty much the ages that they WOULD be making asses of themselves if they were spoiled.
Don't hate just because people had things that you didn't have.
Point being that my kids don't particularly want for anything. HOWEVER, they are not spoiled. They do not get everything they ask for and on occasion they even have to EARN what they get.
If they REALLY want something that they've seen on TV or whatever, they end up having to do chores and such around the house to earn it.
They don't throw tantrums in stores. They don't beg and whine for things. NOR do they lord what things they do have over other children that don't. My children, for the most part, behave properly and aren't jerks to anyone.
So just because a parent gives their kids what they would like to have doesn't make their kids spoiled OR anything even remotely like it.
Incidentally, my kids are 5 and 7. Which is pretty much the ages that they WOULD be making asses of themselves if they were spoiled.
Don't hate just because people had things that you didn't have.
Cold_Zero wrote:As I agree with your premise that preception is reality, I would wager to say that those people who are "rich" are just as in debt as the rest of us. The majority of America lives well above their means, this is nothing new.
When those who are usually more fortunate than others live well above their "means," they are usually aware of that, obviously. Those who can't discern their financial differences from the rest of America are the ones I'm directing my animosity towards because they are the kinds of people who can't sympathize or at least empathize with the lower social classes.
So really, that just pisses me off. And once again, I'm not name calling anyone on NICO; just clarifying what I was trying to say.
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cys19 wrote:You know what pisses me off even more? People who are rich but say they're not rich. Those are the real p******. I'm not name calling anyone on NICO. Just sharing an experience about how some people don't believe there are actually others out there who just aren't as fortunate and, moreover, try to accuse others of lying about how tough it is for them. I know someone like this personally. They're usually one of those who lack "common sense."
I'm not why you're so bothered by that. There's absolutely no advantage for a "rich" person to tell you that he has more money than you. I know several rich folks, (some self made, some inherited) and the overwhelming majority of them prefer not to broadcast their wealth because it could make people feel uncomfortable. The fact that you made it an issue here is why several wealthy folks will not let on that they are rich. Some of my self made "rich" friends started with virtually nothing. So they know very well what it's like not to have much. IMHO your anger is misplaced. I measure a person by their character, not their bank account. Oh, FYI I'm not rich.
^Exactly. Why would you prefer someone who is wealthy and flaunts it in your face??
My parents are very well off but they choose to live modestly, as do a lot of asian families I know because they think about their friends in their country who are still living in shacks with barely enough running water each day. It's not that they want to be secretive about it, but they almost feel guilty broadcasting their wealth.
Last time I checked, being humble and modest was a good character trait, as opposed to some big show off?
My parents are very well off but they choose to live modestly, as do a lot of asian families I know because they think about their friends in their country who are still living in shacks with barely enough running water each day. It's not that they want to be secretive about it, but they almost feel guilty broadcasting their wealth.
Last time I checked, being humble and modest was a good character trait, as opposed to some big show off?
Very true. I think culture, and family background has a lot to do with how people choose to spend their wealth.vicki wrote:^Exactly. Why would you prefer someone who is wealthy and flaunts it in your face??
My parents are very well off but they choose to live modestly, as do a lot of asian families I know because they think about their friends in their country who are still living in shacks with barely enough running water each day. It's not that they want to be secretive about it, but they almost feel guilty broadcasting their wealth.
Last time I checked, being humble and modest was a good character trait, as opposed to some big show off?
My father came from a very poor family, in a poor war-torn village in lebanon. Unlike the mentality of americans, the people in the village(most are related to each other in some way) live almost communistically, however very religiously. They live communistically in the fact that they have a very poor sense of ownership. They prefer to keep the idea that everyone in the family owns all of the property together. Basically, family unity, trust, and religion are all traits that can be found in my family in lebanon, as it is in my immediate family here.
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Folks, most of you all in this forum are still too young to realize that hard work is what it takes - almost all the time! And why is being a bit well-off considered a crime? 
My dad left his home when he was 12 to go work in a shoe factory (child labor laws are different in other countries) because of an authoritarian father. He did not need to, because my family was very well off, but he chose to. But he made his way and eventually became the General Manager of an international firm in the country where we lived. And never took another dime from his family after he left home.
He always joked with me that he would kick me out of the house when I turned 18, so I would learn in the same school of hard knocks. It sorta worked out that way when he died just after I graduated from high school.
I came to this country with $50 in my pocket, to go to school with a lot of help from scholarships and loans and I also worked my butt off over 20 hours a week as a waiter (making $1.75 an hour, no tips allowed) while a full-time student.
I've been out of college 26 years now, and, yes, I make a lot of money at my job relative to you all just getting out of college, but I do not flaunt it. And I will be damned if I have to apologize for being better off right now. I worked hard for it, all my life, and deserve it!
Being "rich" is also relative - I still cannot stop working right now or retire! If I do, I will starve after a couple of years when the money runs out.
Sorry for the soap box, but I find it irritating when people seem to demand that society in some way owes them instant wealth, without having to work for it. All I can say to those lamenting their lot in life: Get off your duff, finish college (if you are still there), work hard and make it happen for yourself too!
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My dad left his home when he was 12 to go work in a shoe factory (child labor laws are different in other countries) because of an authoritarian father. He did not need to, because my family was very well off, but he chose to. But he made his way and eventually became the General Manager of an international firm in the country where we lived. And never took another dime from his family after he left home.
He always joked with me that he would kick me out of the house when I turned 18, so I would learn in the same school of hard knocks. It sorta worked out that way when he died just after I graduated from high school.
I came to this country with $50 in my pocket, to go to school with a lot of help from scholarships and loans and I also worked my butt off over 20 hours a week as a waiter (making $1.75 an hour, no tips allowed) while a full-time student.
I've been out of college 26 years now, and, yes, I make a lot of money at my job relative to you all just getting out of college, but I do not flaunt it. And I will be damned if I have to apologize for being better off right now. I worked hard for it, all my life, and deserve it!
Being "rich" is also relative - I still cannot stop working right now or retire! If I do, I will starve after a couple of years when the money runs out.
Sorry for the soap box, but I find it irritating when people seem to demand that society in some way owes them instant wealth, without having to work for it. All I can say to those lamenting their lot in life: Get off your duff, finish college (if you are still there), work hard and make it happen for yourself too!
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You guys are misunderstanding me. I know many wealthy people grew up with nothing. I'm talking about those who didn't. I'm also talking about those who are so narrowminded that they can't see past the fact that there are people who aren't as fortunate. There, clear and simple.Bubba1 wrote:I'm not why you're so bothered by that. There's absolutely no advantage for a "rich" person to tell you that he has more money than you. I know several rich folks, (some self made, some inherited) and the overwhelming majority of them prefer not to broadcast their wealth because it could make people feel uncomfortable. The fact that you made it an issue here is why several wealthy folks will not let on that they are rich. Some of my self made "rich" friends started with virtually nothing. So they know very well what it's like not to have much. IMHO your anger is misplaced. I measure a person by their character, not their bank account. Oh, FYI I'm not rich.
Now, this may be too intricate for you to understand, but I know many people who have grown up with lots of money in their pockets, but they aren't narrowminded. So, that is why they have my respect. I'm not saying all rich people are spoiled. I'm just talking about a small percentage of Americans here. If this is too complex for you to understand, please, just don't reply. There's no point in responding if you don't comprehend simple English.
FYI When I say "rich" people, I'm talking about the upper middle class of America, or simply people with enough excess money to spoil their children. These could also include those who have money but don't show it off. What they tend to show off is, however, their narrowmindedness.
vicki wrote:^Exactly. Why would you prefer someone who is wealthy and flaunts it in your face??
My parents are very well off but they choose to live modestly, as do a lot of asian families I know because they think about their friends in their country who are still living in shacks with barely enough running water each day. It's not that they want to be secretive about it, but they almost feel guilty broadcasting their wealth.
Last time I checked, being humble and modest was a good character trait, as opposed to some big show off?
You're right. But who are you talking to? Because I'm not talking about those who flaunt their money in people's faces.
The way I initially interepreted your post was that you depise rich people who don't know that they are rich, i.e. don't admit that they are rich by lavishing themselves with luxurious material possessions. I was confused because I've never met those rich people whom you speak of. All the people I know who are wealthy are well aware of their wealth and that there are those less fortunate. I mean it's pretty obvious to anyone who turns on the t.v. or goes for a stroll in the city.
What I'm thinking you mean are those younger people who receive money from their parents and do not realize that not everyone is as fortunate and think that everyone should be rich too. Correct me if I'm wrong.
What I'm thinking you mean are those younger people who receive money from their parents and do not realize that not everyone is as fortunate and think that everyone should be rich too. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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cys19 wrote:You guys are misunderstanding me. I know many wealthy people grew up with nothing. I'm talking about those who didn't. I'm also talking about those who are so narrowminded that they can't see past the fact that there are people who aren't as fortunate. There, clear and simple.
Now, this may be too intricate for you to understand, but I know many people who have grown up with lots of money in their pockets, but they aren't narrowminded. So, that is why they have my respect. I'm not saying all rich people are spoiled. I'm just talking about a small percentage of Americans here. If this is too complex for you to understand, please, just don't reply. There's no point in responding if you don't comprehend simple English.
FYI When I say "rich" people, I'm talking about the upper middle class of America, or simply people with enough excess money to spoil their children. These could also include those who have money but don't show it off. What they tend to show off is, however, their narrowmindedness.
Back up, Jack. It seems at least a few of us (vicki and I to start) interpreted your first response differently than you thought you portrayed it, so before you assign blame (ie that comprehending english jab) perhaps you should re-readi what you wrote. I'm sorry if I read your response differently from your intent, but I''m still curious why you have such an issue with a small percentage of upper middle class (presumably more wealthy than you) people that flaunt their wealth or spoil their children.?? If a dad wants to buy his kid an $50,000 M3 and the kid boasts about it, why should you even care? Fools and jerks cross all income demographics. Please explain.
Bubba1 wrote:Back up, Jack. It seems at least a few of us (vicki and I to start) interpreted your first response differently than you thought you portrayed it, so before you assign blame (ie that comprehending english jab) perhaps you should re-readi what you wrote. I'm sorry if I read your response differently from your intent, but I''m still curious why you have such an issue with a small percentage of upper middle class (presumably more wealthy than you) people that flaunt their wealth or spoil their children.?? If a dad wants to buy his kid an $50,000 M3 and the kid boasts about it, why should you even care? Fools and jerks cross all income demographics. Please explain.
Like what Vicki said,
vicki wrote:I was confused because I've never met those rich people whom you speak of.
The confusion was caused by ignorance on the reader's part. My post was clear enough. However, some things can't be understood w/o having had the experience. So, it would be useless to explain even further.
Though, I think Vicki got pretty close to what I was saying. Her understanding was only influenced by your previous post; otherwise, I think she would have gotten it.
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Hmm, let's see. In the last 24 hrs, you've labelled me an ignorant reader and that I can barely comprehend english because I didn't interpret your post exactly the way you intended. Very mature.I'm not going to take the low road and respond with insults as I'm reasonably sure you're a teenager. (Adults normally don't post that they drive their mom's Camry)
You do yourself no favors by being hostile and insulting, whether it be toward a spoiled kid that you think doesn't appreciate their good fortune, or to someone you don't even know who cared enough to respond to your post.
You're quite a kid. Good luck to you. And I'm sorry to everyone else for temporarily diverting the thread.
You do yourself no favors by being hostile and insulting, whether it be toward a spoiled kid that you think doesn't appreciate their good fortune, or to someone you don't even know who cared enough to respond to your post.
You're quite a kid. Good luck to you. And I'm sorry to everyone else for temporarily diverting the thread.