wheel offsets on 21" StreetConcepts F50

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Remember this car??

http://streetconcepts1.com/flash/flash.html

Go to Cars, click Infiniti and then Q45

I called up DAZZ Motorsports who did the car for streetconcepts to find out the offsets. The guy sounded unsure and said "oh yeh, I think it was 38 in the front and 44 in the rear". I told him I might be doing a similar setup and need to know offsets before I buy the wheels. Do the offsets sound correct? Falkdesigns, ONetongarage, AZhitman??


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Without wheel widths, we cannot say. Which tires will you run?

21" would be some serious anchors, even if they were forged.

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Ask them if they want to contribute some 20" forged wheels for NICO's Project G35 Coupe.

Need more specs on the wheels, btw.

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Never even heard of 21" wheels or tires...

I'll bet those are pricey. Looks awesome tho.

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Well I spoke to another guy at DAZZ Motorsports and says he things the front offset is 45 and rear is 40..

BTW.

front is 21x8.5 and rear is 21x10

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Front offset should be lower than the rear with staggered wheels. It's probably 40 front and 45 rear if anything.

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Street concepts website says 21x8.5 w/255 30 tires front and 21x10 w/295 25 tires rear and Eibach springs

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I would like to know what eibach springs they are running. The Gray 02 from Axis wheels also claimed it was on Eibachs. When I called them, One of the guys there told me they cut the springs.

I ran a 20x10 with 285/35 and was borderline rubb on the rear. That was with +38 offset and there was not enough room b/w the tire and strut housing to slip my finger in between on the back side. I'm wondering how these guys are running 21x10 with a 295 without rubbing.

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Perhaps the car is never driven with those wheels and that the setup on their site is purely just for show.

I believe someone mentioned in a previous thread about this car that the rear fenders were rolled...

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I contacted James Chen of Axis Wheels and he has Axis VIP wheels available in 20x8.5+35mm/20x10+40mm in stock for the F50

He also informed me that the 20x9.0+32/20x11+33 wheels on his Q are one offs.

Some staggered setups available from Impul are18x8.0+35/18x9.0+35, 19x8.5+35/19X9.5+35, 19x8.5+32/19x9.5+38

I was gonna call the guys at Dazz, but Bantoine2 beat me to it. I had intentions of posting all of this F50 wheel/offset info in one post.

It's all good.

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DuDro wrote:Perhaps the car is never driven with those wheels and that the setup on their site is purely just for show.

I believe someone mentioned in a previous thread about this car that the rear fenders were rolled...


I spoke to the guy and the car drives fine.. no rub but I think he mentioned they might have rolled the rear fenders... he says it was done so long ago he doesnt know for sure

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the guys at http://www.wheelwarehouse.com say I should run +40 offset all around on the auto couture wheels which are 22x8.5. I'm wondering if that is going to sit to far in the wheel well. I would like to run a +32 offset all around but he's insisting the +40 would be the best.

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I think 40 might sit in a little too much.. i think 35 would be about right.

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Why aren't you getting staggered sizes if your going to drop that much money on real Auto Couture wheels? 8.5 all the way around? I'd get 9" front and 10" rear if it was me. 22's are too big, these are only 19's and this is the best looking F50 I've seen, just my opinion though:


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Elwesso, isn't the current offset on the stock wheels +40 on the F50 and other Q models (Y33, G50)??

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bantoine2 wrote:Elwesso, isn't the current offset on the stock wheels +40 on the F50 and other Q models (Y33, G50)??
Offset is RELATIVE to width.. A 40mm offset on a 7.5 wheel is NOT the same as 40mm offset on a 8.5!!!!!

I agree that 22s are a little too big.. i like the pic kev posted, its a nice size even though i dont really like those wheels much.

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Seriously? Brabus wheels are easily among my top 3 or 4 favorite wheels.

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Honestly Falk.. I had no intention on going with anyting higher than 20's till I saw what they looked like in person on my car..

They slapped 20's with the auto coutures and is just a big difference. I will post pics later. The 20's just looked like they didnt fit right on the big body and looked really small compared to the 22's. Price was not an issue... its only $600 more for the 22's and everyone agreed it looked more suitable on the car with the 22's and did not look too big at all. It actually had a stock look to it.

Staggering 22's is not an option on the F50 as many other Japanese cars.

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elwesso wrote:
Offset is RELATIVE to width.. A 40mm offset on a 7.5 wheel is NOT the same as 40mm offset on a 8.5!!!!!

I agree that 22s are a little too big.. i like the pic kev posted, its a nice size even though i dont really like those wheels much.
I agree with Wes and Kev that 22's are a little too big.The 06 Q-Sport 19x8.5 wheels have an offset of +40, but the overall diameter of the OEM 245/40 tires are just below 27 inches.

What size tire are you planning to run with the 22's?

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http://www.D2autosport.com wants to run 245/30/22 with 8.5 width all around. The http://www.wheelwarehouse.com wants to run 255/30/22. I'm currently debating which company to go with. Each one is telling me to run different offsets so I'm consulting with both to find out why each wants to go with their proposed offsets when neither has put 22's on it.

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I suppose if you're leaving your suspension stock, it's the only way to fill the wheel wells. Better off doing suspension and getting wheels that are staggered and smaller IMO. But then you have the cost of wheels AND suspension, but you end up with a car that looks a million times better.

Honestly, I'm surprised to hear that W.W. even carries Auto Couture.

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Falkdesigns wrote:I suppose if you're leaving your suspension stock, it's the only way to fill the wheel wells. Better off doing suspension and getting wheels that are staggered and smaller IMO. But then you have the cost of wheels AND suspension, but you end up with a car that looks a million times better.

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I agree... Its better to lower the car and use 19s than it is to leave it stock and use 22s...

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I actually like the stock height.. I'm a tall guy so I dont like going down any lower than what it is to get into a car. So the 22's and stock suspension might be what I'm looking for. I possibly might lower it later on with a 1 to 1.5 drop if it sits higher than what i want.

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I think youll notice that the car doesnt really SEEM lower it just looks lower, especially with a 1.5 or less drop!

I cant really tell much difference getting in and out of my Q which is lowered 2 inches than it was stock.

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Look at the balance of this car's(BMW 7 series) appearance. It has 22s on it and the wheel wells are nicely filled. I think the wheels completely dominate the whole picture.

Now look at the balance of that F50 that Falk put up a few posts ago. It has 19s and the wheel wells are equally nicely filled. Everything looks harmonious. I'm not that crazy about those funny looking spoiler things on the windows, but as far as the wheel/bodylines balance look of the car I think it looks as good as an F50 can look.

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One pothole, just one pothole and that Beemer's wheel(s) is done for. Not to mention I'd think I'd feel every nook, crack, and pebble on the road.

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Well, I have 245/35 front and 275/30 rear and my car has a great ride. My folks even commented on how nice it rides with such low profile tires (and dropped 2" + stiff shocks / struts). I wouldn't have it any other way, I love it.

You do have to look out for pot-holes though, not like driving stock height, stock wheels / tires.

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I had 20" on my car for about 800 miles. Everytime I went over a pot hole or a big crack in the road, The dash felt like it was going to fall off. The looks were great, but I am not willing to take a $60K car that drives like no wheels are touching the road into a car that feels like its 1800lbs with 60Lbs of air in each tire.

I can drive my car at 20mph and at 120Mph and its the same feel in the steering. Those 20" for some reason started to make a bunch of roadnoise above 60mph and it just got worse from there on.

I'm not spoiled by my car, don't get me wrong. I have a supra that puts down close to 500hp at the wheels so I know all about Loud, Harsh Ride, and Engine vibration from the exhaust. But when I'm in the Q and lets say I go to lunch with some coworkers, I don't want them to say, "Man this is a nice car but it still drives like my corolla"

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Well, I can't say I have a clue what you are talking about because everyone that rides in my Q talks about how nice it rides. And it's pretty far from stock. Every time I hit cracks my car goes "thud" and that's it. None of what you describe has ever happened. I love the way the Q rides, and I love the way my modded Q rides even more. Go ride in an M5 and you'll get the idea.

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Big difference - He had 2" more wheel diameter than yours.

I think the tire choice may have had somethng to do with it as well - Those BFG KDW's are awesome, but I'm not convinced they're the best for an F50.


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