wheel offset and fitment.

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lyricalyjy
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do you guys think
19inch +22 offset 5x114.3 will fit in our coups without wheel spacer?

im planning on getting the varrstoen wheels white or black or gunmetal.

if you guys check out their site, the one im trying to get is es2.2.2 19x9.5 and 19x10.5 +22 offset.

i hope it fits flushed and clean.
http://varrstoen.com/blog/

im not anyway related to their company so this is not an AD. just making sure. hehe


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LongBeachCoupe
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I am going to take a stab and say that they wont fit... the +22 offset is too low...
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22 is lower than 38 (which i think is factory) meaning that the wheel is going to be sunk farther into the wheel well... Furthermore, with that low of a positive offset, and a 9.5 inch wheel... I dont even think it would bolt on the car, let alone be road worthy.


from tire rack....


The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types (measured in millimeters).*

Zero Offset

The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive

The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.

Negative

The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.

If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this won't work correctly. We have test fitted thousands of different vehicles for proper fitment. Our extensive database allows our sales staff to offer you the perfect fit for your vehicle.

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AlexM.
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What do you guys mean by fit? Like bolt on? Why wouldn't it? Or are you guys talking about rubbing?

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LongBeachCoupe
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Well theres a back of the wheelwell... It could hit that... and because of the offset, imagine the wheel moving...

Just like a spacer brings it farther out, it could be too sunk in, and the inside of the wheel could literally hit the back of the wheel well before you could bolt it on...

The easiest way I can explain it is to try to think of putting on a 15" wide wheel.. what issues would you run into if it DIDNT stick out beyond the car.. it just wouldnt bolt on bc of sheer size!


"Rubbing" is usually what people are talking about when the wheel is TOO flush with incorrect suspension, when the wheel is turned and suspension is on full tilt, the fender hits the tire. It can rub for a variety of reasons, but with our car, thats the likely "rub"

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AlexM.
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Gotcha. Thanks

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Sorry but im have a same question... i dont seem to understand how tires and rim sizes work...
But will a 2010 Altima have any problems with 245/35R-19?

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All right, a 22 offset on a 9.5 and 10.5 inch rim for an altima is really, really aggresive. The wheel will stick out way past the fender and rub everywhere. A higher offset like 40 for example will bring the outside edge of the wheel in closer into the fender. A lower offset or negative offset (for example: 22 or 0)will push the edge of the wheel further past the outside edge of the fender. You also have to take into account the width of the wheel. The offset is based off the center line of the wheel. So 22 offset on a 10in wheel will stick out further than a 8in wheel with the same offset. They are quite a few people running some aggressive staggered wheel set ups on this site with pics, just search around, and I am sure you will get a better understanding of a fittment you like.

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lyricalyjy
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this is a g35 but i wanted to look like this.
i never knew getting new rims can be so complicated.
do we need take into account of center bore too?
in http://www.streetdreams.org/wheels-that ... ma%20Coupe

out coupes specs are
Bolt Pattern: 5x114.3
Center Bore: 66.1
Hardware:12x1.25 Lug
Offset: 34-45mm

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alphapig
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19x10.5+22 won't fit without some herra frush modifications.

Meaning negative camber and lots of tire stretch. Fender trim/roll, dont think pull is required tho.

If that's what you're going for then do it!

You can make everything fit with enough camber :bigthumb:

lyricalyjy
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alphapig wrote:19x10.5+22 won't fit without some herra frush modifications.

Meaning negative camber and lots of tire stretch. Fender trim/roll, dont think pull is required tho.

If that's what you're going for then do it!

You can make everything fit with enough camber :bigthumb:
how about a 19x9.5 +35 center bore 73.1 and 19.8.5 +35 center bore 73.1?

what are the spec for your wheels? looks pretty good from your picture.

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I am not able to view the photos you posted so I am not really sure what look you are after on wheel fitment. The 35 offset will fit fine. As for the bore size, you might want to look at getting some hubcentric rings to center the wheel. Some people use them others dont. When you order the wheels, they should be able to provide them. I run 20 X 8.5 with a 35 offset and they fit pretty flush with the body. Is there any particular reason that you want to run a staggered set up?

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spawn01 wrote:I am not able to view the photos you posted so I am not really sure what look you are after on wheel fitment. The 35 offset will fit fine. As for the bore size, you might want to look at getting some hubcentric rings to center the wheel. Some people use them others dont. When you order the wheels, they should be able to provide them. I run 20 X 8.5 with a 35 offset and they fit pretty flush with the body. Is there any particular reason that you want to run a staggered set up?

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i kinda like the rear being little wider than the front. hehe

i really like your set up flushed and clean. do you have any problems rubbing or anything?

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lyricalyjy wrote:
spawn01 wrote:I am not able to view the photos you posted so I am not really sure what look you are after on wheel fitment. The 35 offset will fit fine. As for the bore size, you might want to look at getting some hubcentric rings to center the wheel. Some people use them others dont. When you order the wheels, they should be able to provide them. I run 20 X 8.5 with a 35 offset and they fit pretty flush with the body. Is there any particular reason that you want to run a staggered set up?

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oh if you cant see the pictures you can go to varrstoen wheels facebook and look at the grey g35 album.
thats mainly how my ac want look like but well see how things go,

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I run a 245/35 tire and the car is not lowered (driveway will not allow it) and there is no rubbing issues at all. Even though I run 35 offset front and rear and same size tires, I have a 1in lip in the front and a 4.5 in lip in rear to give it a staggered look. Had to do this to clear the bigger brakes. I do agree with you, I do like the staggered set ups myself its just that the dealership told me the it could possibly interfere with the vdc system if the tire diameters were off. Wife's car, cant risk it.

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I am running 19x 9.5 245/35 on all four, offset +20 front +15 rear, -2 degress of camber in the front, -3 in the rear, rolled and pulled rear fenders, BC coilovers, lowered completely in the front, and only two levels are left in the rear. You can make anything fit, it just depends on the modifications that you are willing to do as stated earlier. I can tell you if the set up you want will fit if you state your suspension. If you have already said it, I apologize, I wanted to answer your question as soon as possible.

lyricalyjy
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spawn01 wrote:I run a 245/35 tire and the car is not lowered (driveway will not allow it) and there is no rubbing issues at all. Even though I run 35 offset front and rear and same size tires, I have a 1in lip in the front and a 4.5 in lip in rear to give it a staggered look. Had to do this to clear the bigger brakes. I do agree with you, I do like the staggered set ups myself its just that the dealership told me the it could possibly interfere with the vdc system if the tire diameters were off. Wife's car, cant risk it.

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haha lucky wife man.
keepin the family safe.

thanks for your info !

lyricalyjy
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FGFCacoupe wrote:I am running 19x 9.5 245/35 on all four, offset +20 front +15 rear, -2 degress of camber in the front, -3 in the rear, rolled and pulled rear fenders, BC coilovers, lowered completely in the front, and only two levels are left in the rear. You can make anything fit, it just depends on the modifications that you are willing to do as stated earlier. I can tell you if the set up you want will fit if you state your suspension. If you have already said it, I apologize, I wanted to answer your question as soon as possible.
nono dont need to apologize~ haha thanks man
wow thats some serious suspension setting.
how is the ride? smooth? stiff?

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FGFCacoupe wrote:I am running 19x 9.5 245/35 on all four, offset +20 front +15 rear, -2 degress of camber in the front, -3 in the rear, rolled and pulled rear fenders, BC coilovers, lowered completely in the front, and only two levels are left in the rear. You can make anything fit, it just depends on the modifications that you are willing to do as stated earlier. I can tell you if the set up you want will fit if you state your suspension. If you have already said it, I apologize, I wanted to answer your question as soon as possible.
how did you pull the rears? phonebooks?

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Wait a minute... Theres a whole wheels and tires SECTION?!

With lots of pics and discussion?

Check this section out
altima-suspension-brakes-rims-and-tires.html

This goes back to the good ol days!
what-wheels-will-fit-my-altima-will-it- ... 46628.html

the-rims-thread-post-a-sideshot-take-a- ... 95986.html

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lyricalyjy wrote:
alphapig wrote:19x10.5+22 won't fit without some herra frush modifications.

Meaning negative camber and lots of tire stretch. Fender trim/roll, dont think pull is required tho.

If that's what you're going for then do it!

You can make everything fit with enough camber :bigthumb:
how about a 19x9.5 +35 center bore 73.1 and 19.8.5 +35 center bore 73.1?

what are the spec for your wheels? looks pretty good from your picture.
My Rotas are 18x9 +30

19x9.5 +35 sounds good. Ideally I would look for something 9.5+25 to +35

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LongBeachCoupe wrote:I am going to take a stab and say that they wont fit... the +22 offset is too low...
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22 is lower than 38 (which i think is factory) meaning that the wheel is going to be sunk farther into the wheel well... Furthermore, with that low of a positive offset, and a 9.5 inch wheel... I dont even think it would bolt on the car, let alone be road worthy.


from tire rack....


The offset of a wheel is the distance from its hub mounting surface to the centerline of the wheel. The offset can be one of three types (measured in millimeters).*

Zero Offset



hey hows it going im trying to run a off set on my 6th gen max 2004 ,,,,
i currently running 22" high offset rims now but now

im trying to go with the strance look with some used vossen rims that are 22' 22x9 front and rear are 22x 10.5

im lost on the whole offset game theres some1 running 20x 10.5 all around with 25 offset so if u coukd help me out would be great thanks

The hub mounting surface is even with the centerline of the wheel.

Positive

The hub mounting surface is toward the front or wheel side of the wheel. Positive offset wheels are generally found on front wheel drive cars and newer rear drive cars.

Negative

The hub mounting surface is toward the back or brake side of the wheels centerline. "Deep dish" wheels are typically a negative offset.

If the offset of the wheel is not correct for the car, the handling can be adversely affected. When the width of the wheel changes, the offset also changes numerically. If the offset were to stay the same while you added width, the additional width would be split evenly between the inside and outside. For most cars, this won't work correctly. We have test fitted thousands of different vehicles for proper fitment. Our extensive database allows our sales staff to offer you the perfect fit for your vehicle.

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hey hows it going im trying to run a off set on my 6th gen max 2004 ,,,,
i currently running 22" strada high offset rims now but now

im trying to go with the strance look with some used vossen rims that are 22' 22x9 front and rear are 22x 10.5

im lost on the whole offset game theres some1 running 20x 10.5 all around with 25 offset so if u coukd help me out would be great thanks

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custard310 wrote:hey hows it going im trying to run a off set on my 6th gen max 2004 ,,,,
i currently running 22" strada high offset rims now but now

im trying to go with the strance look with some used vossen rims that are 22' 22x9 front and rear are 22x 10.5

im lost on the whole offset game theres some1 running 20x 10.5 all around with 25 offset so if u coukd help me out would be great thanks
Keep in mind if you're interested primarily in stance, and want to pursue wide wheels with negative offset. You may need to roll and or cut your fenders to achieve a very aggressive look. :yesnod It really depends on how extreme you want to go with your aftermarket wheel fitment.

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^ He's right. And 22" wheels is really pushing it


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