What would win S13 vs Mustang

[MaKaVe1i]

I was wondering if my s13 SR20DET would beat a 90 and up Mustang. My engine is completely stock, so it should be hitting 205 hp. I was wondering if i kould beat the regular mustang, the GT, and the svt, and then the cobra, kan some one plz tell me if any ones i have a chance against.

[GELLIS2586]

You should be able to beat any gt up until 98 cause the 5.0 had 215 hp with 265 tq and the 4.6 96-98 had 225hp and 285 tq the 99 and up gts would be a stretch you could possibly beat a 5.0 cobra those only had 245 hp but itd be really close. Any of the 4.6 litre cobras your toast 96-98 had 305 hp with 300 tq and 99 cobra had 320 with 318 tq same with 01 there was no 00 or 02 cobra, Cobra R was the only cobra for 00 but forget about it no way no how will you even come close. no 02 cobra they were getting ready for the 03. Forget about it with the 03 theyre almost as fast as the cobra r

[[Zero-S]]

I walk all over mustangs...(the regular ones;)) I wouldn't touch a GT or Cobra with a 10 ft. pole.(In a drag race of course...but put me on a nice windy road and I'll kill it for you;)

[maxpower]

A 5 speed KA24de powered 240 will own v6 Mustang.

Your chances of winning to a v8 mustang are not that bad, considering a majority of v8 owners are yuppies without a clue

[93RPS13]

are you serious? KA own a V6?

[CaptainHenreh]

A 5 speed KA24de powered 240 will own v6 Mustang.

Your chances of winning to a v8 mustang are not that bad, considering a majority of v8 owners are yuppies without a clue

These "who would win" questions are really easy.

Let's take a 1999 Ford Mustang V6.

Weight: 3069 Lbs.Horsepower:190.Power to weight Ratio:1hp:16lbs

Now, your S13 Weight: Approximately 2700 lbs.Horsepower: 205PTW: 1:13

So, because you have a better power to weight ratio, you'll probably win. Um, you'll win bad. You'll go to jail for assault.

(On a Sidenote, maxpower, a KA24DE has only 155 horsepower.That's a PTW of 1:17.5 which is worse than the Mustang. Now, while there might be other factors involved, alot of them having to do with driver skill, I'd hardly say that a KA24DE will 'own' a V6 mustang. It'd be close.)

So let's move into GT's. We've already determined your PTW to be 1:13, although admittedly it may be a little higher. (You don't still have your stock KA exhaust do you?)

2000 Ford Mustang GT (4.6 Litre) (Couldn't find the weight for a 99)

Weight: 3242 LbsHorsepower: a whopping 260 horsepower.PTW: 1:12.4

This time, it's close. Alot of factors come into play. He's got alot of low-end torque, he'll probably jump you at the beginning. But once your turbo spools, you ought to pull on him, and maybe come out on top at the very end, owing to your higher redline. Maybe. It would be close, I think. Crank up the boost a couple of pounds and you'll have a better safety margin.

2000 Cobra SVT

Weight: 3560 lbsHorsepower: 320PTW: 1:11

Prepare to have your *** handed to you in peices.

It's an easy formula, and while not with 100% "this is what will happen" predictability, it ought to give you a good idea of what would happen in a straight line.

Sorry, I was bored this morning.

[Auto-X 240]

I raced my friend in his 97 cobra a couple of weeks ago. now, both our cars are set up for autocrossing so they're not exactly drag race monsters. Anyway, he's got the stock exhaust manifolds with no cats, an x-pipe and 2 1/2" dual exhaust, 3.55 gears, and falken azenis. My car has the usual 3" DP, test pipe, N1 single exhaust, VLSD with 3.92 gear, 245/45/16 yokohama AVS sports, greddy fmic, 2600lbs, running .9 bar with a profec B and SAFC. We were neck and neck the whole way from a standing start thru third gear when we both let off due to upcoming traffic.

[DriftRPS13]

youd beat a regular mustang but dont kno about the gt and cobra

[vwluv10338]

I am pretty much dead even with v8 mustangs. One was a later 90's and one was a later 60's. I havent raced my uncle's cobra but I am pretty sure he would spank me.

Eric

[Charlie240sxt]

The other night I ran a GT stang around 95 and stay with him from 40 roll to 95 all he got on me was his rear bumper to my front And yes kade will take v6 stangs drag highway what ever ther slow lol now v6 5 speed fire birds seem to pull on me weird

[crazy2002mexican]

I own v6 mustangs in my KA24de stock...and ive raced a v6 firebird's...U can own a auto but a 5 spd will pull on you..from my experience

[4felix20]

i was in my auto s14 the other night and some newer model gt mustang revved at me. i knew i would lose, but what the helll...i got a better launch, and he took off once all that torque kicked in. basically though, i just kinda kept up with him...he didn't walk me or anything.

[Altiman94]

no you didn't. Your auto is 2 seconds slower in the 1/4 (atleast) than his 5 speed easily. You would have been owned if he was on it.

[crazy2002mexican]

lol sorry guy but like Altiman94 said u would have got toasted. GT's can be quick off the line to0, A few of my friends got gt's and all i have is exhaust and injen intake, by the time we get into second gear they already have a car on me. None the less you have an auto............

[maxpower]

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[badman70_1]

my vehicle: stock 91' KA24DEmy experiences:

pretty even from 30-100mph with a friends 94/95' 5.0 Auto GT.

destroyed by another friends Supercharged 98' Cobra with a fully built motor (476hp,410ft/lb) running a traction limited high ll quarter.

[sideshow]

maybe someone should make a "would a stock sr in a ___ beat ___?" sticky thread

[GTS4-R]

i raced my buddies lightly moded 2003 Mustang GT (intake, exhuast, camgear, ignition, etc.)and beat him......(@10 PSI) we tried on the highway and i just started slowly pulling away from him till i hit speed limiter (125-130MPH).....then when we got off the highway we were at a red light together......i thought he was gonna MURDER me off the line beacuase all that torque and not to mention my tires are BALD and have huge positive camber (camber kit sitting in my room for now it like +3.0degrees right now) and i also haven't perfected my launch yet......so the light turns green i ease off at 3,500 or so and MURDERED him off the line by at least a car length......from there i pulled on him alot harder than i did on the highway......it was a perfect launch for me chirped the tires for about a second and just gripped and BOUNCED......that was awesome......did i mention im running a stock t-25 , LOL...piece of **** turbo.....can't wait for t3/t4e

[deez1001]

it is really funny seeing u guys talk yourselves into thinking you could beat a v8. that has double the displacement of what you have. I mean the torque numbers on any v8 will rip any sr20det that is close to stock a part. Step back into reality people. Also no one cares if you have beaten a mustang because u have no way to back it up and without proof people tend to not care.

[SmithSR]

I've had some seat time in a few Mustangs. My old boss has a drag prepped Foxbody. It's hit high 11's on the strip, and is stupid fast from 30-120 on the open road with street tires. He also owned an '02 Cobra, before the SC model, that was balls to the walls fast, even is stock trim. His latest mustang is an '03 Cobra, that has yet to be beaten on the street. The boss is a bit of a child grown older, so he actually races people on the street, and has yet to be beaten. This leads me to my next point: people should know better than to race, and perhaps they DO know better, which is why what you might think is a "kill" is actually the guy in the mustang chosing not to face the hand of the law. Maybe a kill...maybe not, but don't underestimate v-8 torque. Last time I checked, 4.6liter GT mustangs put down 302lb ft. in factory trim. Definitely nothing to laugh at.

[GTS4-R]

well we defiantely were racing and he was giving it all......he actually asked me to race him cause he wanted to see how fast my car was.....now it wasn't any cobra or svt but it was definately a 2003 GT who cares about HP when the thing ways a ****LOAD more.......its actually pretty nice to smoke a car with over double the displacement and twice as many cylinders.....jee i wish i had it on tape i would post it......from what he's told me he ran a 14 flat before all the mods he added.....he was hoping for like a high 13 after the mods......and was guesstamating me at like a 13.6 which is a little faster than im guessin....either way its relatively stock.....of course there are mustangs around here putting down anywhere from 400 to 950 HorsePower that would be a totally different story.......believe me or not it went down like that......i got plenty of witnesses in both our cars and others following so all the peeps in my town knows it happened.....

[SmithSR]

This is a pretty good discussion. No whoring/advertising will be allowed in such a hot topic :ylsuper

[GELLIS2586]

What makes a v6 mustang slow is its gearing. It has a 3.08 rearend the same as a the gt and the cobra now has a 3.55. Think about it a 3.08 with 190 hp equals slow i kill v6 mustangs all the time and v6 firbirds and camaros run a little better but still cant keep up unless they have more than just bolt ons such as gears or cams etc. Trust me gts are fast 2 of my friends have gts a 2000 and a 2002 one is pretty heavily modded and the other is stock except for exhaust. Both of them cant drive for **** so i rip them off the line but by 40 theyve catch up and blow past me. They both launch too high spin then bog thats how i pull ahead. a stock s13 with sr20 will run high 14's and a 2000 gt will hit 14.1 14 flat its not much faster but good enough. Then theres the bullit it runs a 13.4 the mach 1 runs a 13.1 and the 01 cobra runs a 13.4 03 cobra runs a 12.6 no stock sr can hang with any of those and dont bs me and say you can unless your modded pretty good. I love mustangs and i know some of you are bull****ing but hey i cant stop you.

For some reason i always feel like i have to protect the mustangs. noone gives them any credit. I need some backup here too many people under estimate raw american torque. Any ways ill go dream of my cobra now

[GTS4-R]

what is done is done......no need to stick up for ur ford now.....my car is modded pretty well (cept for stock turbo) and ill prolly be in the high 13's with mine (DEFINATELY NOT HIGH 14'S).ive seen sr's with stock t-25's break into the 12's..so please do some homework, i can tell u know about Stangs but thats about it.....i raced him with a full system and over 200LBS of bondo thats on my car.....and it still went down with no DREAM of catching up.....i will go toe to toe with him again and get it on tape and post it just to quiet all the ford huggers in here down......just remember guys NOTHING is impossible......

[S13240]

Even those new GTs aren't much with a stock sr20det. It was a while back, I purposely was going slow after making a right turn going to work onto the left lane...the street I turn onto is a 2 lane straightaway for a good mile. This 2000+ Mustang GT was behind me with a middle-aged man driving it...I was going too slow so he got onto the right lane and mashed his throttle...pretty loud for a stock mustang though. He got half a car ahead of me and then I just gassed my car to see how well his car pulls compared to mine since his already had the better momentum. I of course quickly passed him and didn't thought much of it though...it was a stock stang. If it was modded it would have been a different story.

[Mr1der]

maybe one you wacky SR boys should find a 500KR to race, that should be fun

[yashin]

Then theres the bullit it runs a 13.4 the mach 1 runs a 13.1 and the 01 cobra runs a 13.4 03 cobra runs a 12.6 no stock sr can hang with any of those and dont bs me and say you can unless your modded pretty good. I love mustangs and i know some of you are bull****ing but hey i cant stop you.

im pretty sure that the new svt cobra runs a 12.9-13.0 1/4 mile

car and driver, and almost all other car magazines had it at those, ive never heard anybody say they can do 12.6

[BuudWeizErr]

I ran a GT from 50-110.

He got the jump on me by about a half a car length and he was at my quarterpanel when we shut it down. They are quick, but they die in the top end when the SR is shining.

[nissandet240]

I complete my s15 sr swap but till now I still waiting for my first victim, my car sill needs to clear some bugs. So if any of U know a a mustang let me know IM at [email protected]What are ur predictions?t28 FMICSUS intakeALL aluminum pluming BOV7lbs bostsprint sprins215 60 r15 khumos 752 Ill say I have some very good traction I have to rev it to 4.5 or 5 to do a burn out but it come out.

[GELLIS2586]

A stock sr like makave1i has would not beat a 99 up mustang gt. A stock sr will run high 14's wiht mods and more boost and can run faster but he said hes hitting 205 so hes not modded. I have no doubt in my mind that a 240 could beat a mustang it just takes the right driver and the right parts but stock for stock an sr will not keep up with a gt unless it is an s15 then it would be pretty close but a gt still has 100 more torque than you. So nissandet240 if i had to guess id say a gt would beat you off the line but not much more remember this is rough guess so dont hold me to it.