what turbo is good for me

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i have a red top sr20det with greddy fmic, greddy oil pan, koyo rad, spec 2 clutch, short shifter, profec b boost controler, i want to knoe what turbo is good for 375-400 whp im planing on geting 555nismo or 650 injectors i just orderd a wideband o2 and gauge and apexi safc neo for tuning but like i said i want a good turbo mines stock thanx for your help


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anyone

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no one can help

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jump on the bandwagon and get gt2871r. .63 or 86a/r.

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if i had 555nismo injectors would those work with that turbo

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sx_hatch wrote:i have a red top sr20det with greddy fmic, greddy oil pan, koyo rad, spec 2 clutch, short shifter, profec b boost controler, i want to knoe what turbo is good for 375-400 whp im planing on geting 555nismo or 650 injectors i just orderd a wideband o2 and gauge and apexi safc neo for tuning but like i said i want a good turbo mines stock thanx for your help
safc wont work with over 555 cc injectors

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my friend is using a safc and he has 650s

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sx_hatch wrote:my friend is using a safc and he has 650s
only way 650's would work with a safc is if the ecu is tuned for them and you are just useing the safc to fine tune them. the safc 1,2&neo is only good for injectors up to 550cc

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at what psi would 555cc injectors be good till on a gt2871r

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sx_hatch wrote:at what psi would 555cc injectors be good till on a gt2871r
Your lack of searching is making me sick.

Check out my thread '400 hp 2871r .64' for help.

PS: Throw that SAFC in the brush. It's a pile of trash. Spend the money, get a ROM tune from JWT and be done/safe/boosting in no time.

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when i get my gt28 imma get higher than 550, just for some leeway. Also listen to codyace

EDIT: btw, codyace, hows your setup been treating you so far. Any complaints?

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sx_hatch dont worry about it .63 is more streetable the .86 isnt as but just is rated to push more hp. I believe srdub-t has 720cc on his safc if im not mistaking. Heres something to help you out a bit with your whp goals and injector picks

This is a conservative rating at 3 bar. * indicate side feed inj sizes that can be bought from Nissan, Nismo or Tomei. Alot of the sizes you can not get but are there to help you if you are looking at a cetain flow rate by going to 4 bar.

3 BAR = 44 PSI, All the Nissans with Fuel Presure Regulators operate at 3 bar.

4 BAR = 59 PSI Running at 4 bar is better than running at 3 bar. Here is why, you can get more WHP from your inj at 4 bar, there is no xtra cost for a 4 bar program from JWT, you get better drivability at 4 bar because of better fuel atomization and you car will do better at the emmisions station becasue of better fuel atomization.

All Nissan Side feed injs are high impedence

The GTIR 444cc Inj is low impedence

91-99 USDM SR20DE = 259 cc side feed injs00-02 USDM SR20DE RR = top feed injs

U12, U13, W10 and W11 SR20DET = 370 cc Side Feed injsPulsar GTIR SR20DET = 444 cc Top Feed injs

S13 and S14 RWD SR20DET =370 cc Side Feed injsS15 RWD SR20DET = 444 cc Side Feed injs

SR20VET = 444cc Top Feed SR20VE 20V = 350cc Top Feed

Side Feed Injs

23 cc = 16 WHP46 cc = 31 WHP93 cc = 63 WHP139 cc = 94 WHP185 cc = 125 WHP * Pink GA16231 cc = 156 WHP259 cc = 175 WHP * Red SR20DE278 cc = 187 WHP324 cc = 218 WHP333 cc = 226 WHP * Grey SR20VE---------------------------------------------333 cc @ 4 bar = 261 WHP370 cc = 250 WHP * Purple SR20DET---------------------------------------------370 cc @ 4 bar = 290 WHP416 cc = 281 WHP444 cc = 299 WHP * Brick Brown SR20DET ( S15 )---------------------------------------------444 cc @ 4 bar = 345 WHP462 cc = 312 WHP 509 cc = 342 WHP555 cc = 373 WHP * Yellow---------------------------------------------555 cc @ 4 bar = 423 WHP 601 cc = 405 WHP * Yellow Tomei---------------------------------------------601 cc @ 4 bar = 457 WHP647 cc = 436 WHP692 cc = 468 WHP740 cc = 500 WHP * Red---------------------------------------------740 cc @ 4 bar = 580 WHP

850 cc = 570 WHP SARD---------------------------------------------850 cc @ 4 bar = 660 WHP

Nissan Top Feed Injs

350cc = 275 WHP * Green SR20VE 20V P12

444cc = 299 WHP * Yellow RNN14 GTIR

444cc = 299 WHP * Yellow SR20VET

MSD Top Feed Injs

36 lb = 250 WHP50 lb = 355 WHP72 lb = 520 WHP96 lb = 690 WHP

MSD Injs do not run right at 4 bar so don't try it.

Thank you Andreas Miko

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Very useful post turbomrdeuce! Great! =)

Although my 50lb MSD Top Feeds (i do believe mine are 55lb though) are equivilant of 580cc or something like that. I just pulled a dyno on my .64 for 380 WHP with 18psi. I'm in Utah.

Also running 3 bar, roughly 44 psi at idle and 38 psi at full boost.

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TchouikoS13 wrote:EDIT: btw, codyace, hows your setup been treating you so far. Any complaints?
Absolutly love it. Power everywhere, never out of the turbo range....it drives like a damn v8 car :D

FWIW: It takes a 500+ whp Cobra/ws6 to run me down :D
exode wrote: I just pulled a dyno on my .64 for 380 WHP with 18psi. I'm in Utah.

Also running 3 bar, roughly 44 psi at idle and 38 psi at full boost.
You should really check you rfuel pressure! At idle you should be roughly 35/38 and in boost you should be 43.5 + whatever boost level you area running. If you're only making 38 psi in full boost, your car is certainly running lean up top (unsafe)

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sx_hatch wrote:i have a red top sr20det with greddy fmic, greddy oil pan, koyo rad, spec 2 clutch, short shifter, profec b boost controler, i want to knoe what turbo is good for 375-400 whp im planing on geting 555nismo or 650 injectors i just orderd a wideband o2 and gauge and apexi safc neo for tuning but like i said i want a good turbo mines stock thanx for your help
dude...get a wideband sensor with datalogging....a gauge is useless....there's no way you can watch the gauge while you're driving and tune anything at the same time.

here are a few i have been considering:

http://www.blacktrax.net/produ....html

http://www.innovatemotorsports...1.php

i think the smartest thing would be to copy a tried and true setup instead of insisting on being different. gt2871r with big enough injectors, basic power upgrades (fmic, exhaust, clutch), tuning and management, and ofcourse - the ability to drive effectively.

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Deadrodent wrote:
dude...get a wideband sensor with datalogging....a gauge is useless....there's no way you can watch the gauge while you're driving and tune anything at the same time.

here are a few i have been considering:

http://www.blacktrax.net/produ....html

http://www.innovatemotorsports...1.php

i think the smartest thing would be to copy a tried and true setup instead of insisting on being different. gt2871r with big enough injectors, basic power upgrades (fmic, exhaust, clutch), tuning and management, and ofcourse - the ability to drive effectively.
yeah i got a innovate it kicks ****ing ***

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really? which one?

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GT2871r or GT3071r Company drift car runs a 2871R at 356rwhp @ 18lbs.

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turbomrdeuce
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Deadrodent wrote:really? which one?
i got the lm1 with the rpm reader

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Deadrodent wrote:really? which one?
By no means is the Innovate LM1 crap, as it's fantastic...the downfall is that it's the size of a Gameboy one.

I personally prefer the PLX M300 wideband. Have used/installed them in 6 turbo cars (local to me) and can't ask for a better product. Reasonably priced, and you can use the little cassette tape sized unit, or use a 2 1/16 gauge for readout.

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does the PLX M300 wideband have any features the lm1 lacks? and while i'm thread jacking i might as well ask a question that has been burning a hole in my brain...

does anyone tune j4 ecu's for the type x blacktop?

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codyace wrote:
By no means is the Innovate LM1 crap, as it's fantastic...the downfall is that it's the size of a Gameboy one.

I personally prefer the PLX M300 wideband. Have used/installed them in 6 turbo cars (local to me) and can't ask for a better product. Reasonably priced, and you can use the little cassette tape sized unit, or use a 2 1/16 gauge for readout.
the lm1 is great but yeah it is pretty fing big lol

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Deadrodent wrote:does the PLX M300 wideband have any features the lm1 lacks? and while i'm thread jacking i might as well ask a question that has been burning a hole in my brain...
Unsure. I think the main difference is datalog, but the M500 does that.
deodrodent wrote:does anyone tune j4 ecu's for the type x blacktop?
ECU to motor doesn't mean much...it's more important that you keep the same color connector to the same engine. If the blacktop engine's ECU harness has a white connector, than any 2 litre OBDII Nissan ECU will work. If it's blue, any 2 ltr OBDI nissan ecu will work.

My car is actually running on a p10 G20 ecu from JWT.


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