What really went down... & why you need a pager alarm!!!!!!

[toxik]

bro invest in a garage

[Zerep]

here in florida you shoot him and then take him inside and call it selfdefenseglad only plastics and glass were damaged and nothing softer. we must arm our selves to the teeth or drive around in tanks

[RobPaulson]

i grabbed my brothers M16 and ran out, sprayed the car and i killed him, and the car was totally screwed up due to my nervousness... about breathing and staying calm just didnt go so well..

holy sdfjkhasdjf dude WTF, i wish you could get away with something like that in CT . . . you would be in prison if that happened up here. . .

[rjdmmfl1]

Damn Rob...that's crazy - isn't this like the 2nd or 3rd time this month or so? I don't think I could live like that - too much fear and commotion - props to you for keeping your cool under the situation and not making it any worse than it already was...hopefully this stuff will stop happening - i'm sure it's taking a toll on your family...

Merry Christmas everyone!

well, the thing is, I'm almost positive these are the same guys that broke in last time... same motus operandi... %am, Saturday morning, break in through the window. As a matter of fact, Blake's window looks just like mine did the last time... this time they were just greedy, and stayed around too long aftr the pager had paged me!

bro invest in a garage

wow... yeah, that's something I never thought about (please note the extreme f*cking sarcasm here)... what a great idea... seriously dude, if you're just gonna offer pointless a$$ suggestions that any idiot would have done after the first break in, then don't even waste your time posting "BRO"... there is no garage near me... surely I would have done that by now if there were... I live in an apartment building!

goddamn, glad to hear u made the best from the situation, down here in texas it must be different.. my situation was similar but at 3:34 am, long story short, my brother owns an 08 cadillac XRL-V, and the guy went down the driveway, drove about 2 houses down, and then i grabbed my brothers M16 and ran out, sprayed the car and i killed him, and the car was totally screwed up due to my nervousness... about breathing and staying calm just didnt go so well..

so then they charged me for attempted manslaughter, they said i had the intention to kill not wound him.. there were 9 bullets in him btw

so i was on house arrest for 4 months. is this **** even right??

this was when the hurricane Ike came, and houston was out of electricty for about 1 month..

Dude, I understand your frustration, and of course, after three break ins, my gut instinct was to put one in him... but you must always think about the consequences/// Texas and California are polar opposites regarding gun laws and self defense. In California, you would definately be in pison for attempted murder, no doubt. THings are waaayy different in Texas. In most states, you can't shoot someone if they are fleeing.. that means you pursued them... also, when I told the individual to drop the weapon, he did, thus he had given up, if he didn't drop it, I would have put one in his chest, absolutely! Its all about the immediate circumstances, little things make a big difference!

When a gun is involved, you have to make sure you keep a calm head about you... no way am I risking all the hard work I've done for the last 10 years of school for a stereo, but if my life was in jeapordy, that's a different story!

[Cali 2 Balti G]

OK, so its official, pager alarms are the best thing since sliced bread....

5am, 12-13-08, I had just finished taking some flu medicine, when my pager alarm starts to go off... I grab my 9mm, and head downstairs to my car.. as I approach, I see a car parked in front of mine and my alarm is going off... I c*** back the weapon and tell the gentleman with my Nav unit in his hands to freeze... I tell everyone else to "get out of the f*cking car" they don't listen, and I notice the driver has a long weapon of some sort in his hands... without hesitation I fire warning shots over his head he drops his weapon( turned out to be the long screwdriver used during the break in) and exits the car, so do the rest of his cronies.. 2 girls and 2 dudes total... I proceed to hold them until the police come... then the dudes turn into crying females begging me not to shoot them ..." dog, don't shoot me man, I got kids, I got warrants, I don't want to go to jail," etc., etc as they walk towards the front of the building, the two guys take off on foot, the girls stay put

In the end, the cops come , I immediately hand over my weapon, and explain to them exactly what happened... turns out, there were 7 other stolen cd/dvd players in the dudes' car.. they were apparently christmas shopping with a Free-ninety nine discount card!

In any case, they tow the car and let the chicks go due to insuficient evidence.... my car window is jacked up, my stereo is damaged, wiring in the vehicle is jacked up... am I mad? .. well, yeah, but there's a few morals to the story

1. The proximity to christmas, and the recent tragic events here in San Diego were on my mind , and those are the main reasons i didn't kill the guy with my stereo (not that I think he deserved to die for robbing me, but because he had a weapon of some sort that was indistinguishable in the dim street light, and legally, I had the right to shoot him if I thought my life was threatened, or if he didn't drop the weapon when asked!)... Honesly, I didn't want that on my conscious!

2. I've said it a thousand times, if you have aftermarket stuff in your car, then get both extended car stereo insurance, and a remote pager alarm for your vehicle. I have the RS-1000 OLED alarm, and this is the reason this situation turned out the way it did. Invest your money wisely!

3. If you are ever in this situation, STAY CALM, BE SMART, and BE CAREFUL. This situation could have ended much worse. Had either of the 4 individuals been armed, I wouln't have hesitated to put them down, but that was not my intention when I approached them. Keeping a level head in this type of situation can mean all the difference in the world in keeping a bad situation from getting worse... for both you and the other individuals.

Be safe folks during the holidays.....

Rob - you are really lucky - it seems that a bad situation could have easily turned worse. You haven't really mentioned anything of any aftermath regarding the gun and firing it. So I guess that means the Police felt you were justified.

But this is a situation where - it could have been perceived as excessive force (firing shots). Especially since the perp only had a screwdriver. Sometimes in this situation - it could be found that - ur life wasn't threatened until you confronted the perp. Unfortunately perps have rights to - even during the commission of a crime.

In any case, its a shame that u just cant enjoy the nice things that u work for.

[LongBeachCoupe]

In texas i believe your allowed to drive around with a pistol in your lap and a half empty bottle of liquor... Its really "cowboy" style in TX lol.

Im also curious to the "beef" if any the cops gave you about firing.also, any luck with your complex manager? I dont think cameras are out of the question after an event like this. If they say no (i dont know how they could), with your electrical knowledge, its a piece of cake to hook up a series of IR cameras in the garage linked to a recorder... Even though it may not provide the evidence to catch someone, maybe they will look for easier prey rather than take the risk.

I think this should make the local papers (did it?)... and since the guys got away, im sure they will be spreading the word about their experience, and if its the same "circle" of XXckin thieves, they should get a clear message that they got their 1 "pass" and next time the only electronics they will get away with are life support.

[toxik]

wow... yeah, that's something I never thought about (please note the extreme f*cking sarcasm here)... what a great idea... seriously dude, if you're just gonna offer pointless a$$ suggestions that any idiot would have done after the first break in, then don't even waste your time posting "BRO"... there is no garage near me... surely I would have done that by now if there were... I live in an apartment building!

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[psi101101]

well, the thing is, I'm almost positive these are the same guys that broke in last time... same motus operandi... %am, Saturday morning, break in through the window. As a matter of fact, Blake's window looks just like mine did the last time... this time they were just greedy, and stayed around too long aftr the pager had paged me!

wow... yeah, that's something I never thought about (please note the extreme f*cking sarcasm here)... what a great idea... seriously dude, if you're just gonna offer pointless a$$ suggestions that any idiot would have done after the first break in, then don't even waste your time posting "BRO"... there is no garage near me... surely I would have done that by now if there were... I live in an apartment building!

Dude, I understand your frustration, and of course, after three break ins, my gut instinct was to put one in him... but you must always think about the consequences/// Texas and California are polar opposites regarding gun laws and self defense. In California, you would definately be in pison for attempted murder, no doubt. THings are waaayy different in Texas. In most states, you can't shoot someone if they are fleeing.. that means you pursued them... also, when I told the individual to drop the weapon, he did, thus he had given up, if he didn't drop it, I would have put one in his chest, absolutely! Its all about the immediate circumstances, little things make a big difference!

When a gun is involved, you have to make sure you keep a calm head about you... no way am I risking all the hard work I've done for the last 10 years of school for a stereo, but if my life was in jeapordy, that's a different story!

about the fleeing thing, you cant shoot someone even if they are fleeing in your car?? ive asked my lawyers about this, and some said yes, some said no?? so

[rjdmmfl1]

about the fleeing thing, you cant shoot someone even if they are fleeing in your car?? ive asked my lawyers about this, and some said yes, some said no?? so

as far as i know, if they are fleeing or they have given up, then no, you're not suppose to shoot them... if you do, you become the aggressor, even if they have your stuff! If they are in your house, the rules are different forr different states. In Texas, if they are in your house, its shoot to kill. Same thing in Florida now. In California, you're suppose to have a reasonable fear for your life to kill them, but most judges aren't gonna be that anal !

In texas i believe your allowed to drive around with a pistol in your lap and a half empty bottle of liquor... Its really "cowboy" style in TX lol.

Im also curious to the "beef" if any the cops gave you about firing.also, any luck with your complex manager? I dont think cameras are out of the question after an event like this. If they say no (i dont know how they could), with your electrical knowledge, its a piece of cake to hook up a series of IR cameras in the garage linked to a recorder... Even though it may not provide the evidence to catch someone, maybe they will look for easier prey rather than take the risk.

I think this should make the local papers (did it?)... and since the guys got away, im sure they will be spreading the word about their experience, and if its the same "circle" of XXckin thieves, they should get a clear message that they got their 1 "pass" and next time the only electronics they will get away with are life support.

Regarding you and Cali's questions... actually.. the Cops told me I should have shot him...

Yeah, he only had a screwdriver, but all I saw was a weapon... if he has a water pistol, and I thought it was a real gun, I could have shot and killed him, and they said it would have been justified...

if he didn't have a weapon, it would have been different... but as I mentioned earlier, i wasn't gonna shoot the dude over a stereo, especially after he dropped the weapon! the fact that I later found out it was only a long screw driver is irrelevant.

[Armed Coupe]

Yeah in CA you can only shoot if your life or the life of another is in immediate danger and you should only shoot to kill! No warning shots! That’s public endangerment. Stuff can be replaced a human life cant. I’m glad to hear you and your family are safe. It could have turned out really bad for everyone. And now hopefully the word will spread not to mess with your car.

Good luck and stay safe.

[kyle@stillen]

I live in Irvine, one of the safest, most boring cities in California. I had to sell my last truck because it kept getting vandalized. One morning I came out and someone had egged the truck. Another morning I came out really early (thank god) to head out to the desert with some friends and someone had written "bro" on the side of the truck in bright orange paint. Fortunately it was still wet as it was about 5 a.m. and I was able to wash it off without any damage. And, I always do a really good job of waxing my vehicle's so I never had any paint damage from the eggs either.

I never had any problems with break-ins or theft, just vandalism. I knew it was just a bunch of stupid kids but I wasn't willing to risk my paint job anymore so I got rid of it.

Here's a pic of my baby...The paint alone was worth over 10K

[marcelo929]

NIIIIICEEEEEE truck, I had seen it before on the forums but it really caught my eye in this picture. Sucks you had to get rid of it

[adidas2go]

If I got a truck, it would be a Titan, and it would have the same general concept of that. To look good, be powerful, and handle terrain

[LongBeachCoupe]

Irvine is awesome, I love that chinese place PickupStix! The shopping in Irvine is bonkers too!

[rjdmmfl1]

Irvine is awesome, I love that chinese place PickupStix! The shopping in Irvine is bonkers too!

LOl.. Pick Up Stix is all over SOCAL...

[kyle@stillen]

Irvine is awesome, I love that chinese place PickupStix! The shopping in Irvine is bonkers too!

Sorry man...Like Robert said, Pick Up Stix is a franchise all over So. Cal...By the way, if you are talking about the Pick Up Stix in Irvine in Alton Square...With the Chevron gas station right next door to the Z Pizza...You were about 1 mile away from my house. Where did you go shopping in Irvine? Maybe I've just lived here too long but I always thought that the shopping was kind of normal...Then again, I'm not a bigger shopper hahaha.

Thanks Blake...Yea, that truck was a lot of fun and handled amazingly well in the desert. There wasn't really anything else like it out there. My favorite part was its ability to drive 3 hours to the desert...Get the crap kicked out of it for three days, then turn around and drive home again...She never let me down!