What qualifies as a "drift" ?

[krazy skwerel]

You do not have to that much power. Good grief ok how bout this the ae86 Many people say its the king of drifting and what not. They are not pushing 400+ hp. HP is not the end all to be all of drifting. It's about the suspension and other elements just as much or even more so than raw power.

[Cyberkreig]

D-unit. Everything you said is wrong.

[Ceptos]

horse power is only relative to other properties of the car. those small corolla and my fav, the s12, have smaller wheel bases, which causes more weight transfer, i guess this is why they would be easier to drift. i think its been said, but in a drift the basic idea is to come out of the turn with no corrections needed to be made. a power slide is more like a fishtail at the end of a turn because you didnt start the turn wide enough. there are all types of drifts you can do, so explaining one way seems pointless.

[D-UNIT]

yeah you guys are right, but that was suppose to be funny. But power = control. btw those ae86s are running fully built 4ags and 20v engines pushing about 215 rwhp. in a gutted out car weighing about 1300 pounds. talking about the japanese cars in the drift videos we see. ok ok I'll just say you what to drift like that? then get some power.

[AJ-SPEC]

those 86's don't come with built 4-ag's obviously. any experienced drifter will tell you not to start out with 300 hp. those guys took their 150hp. out and learned how to drift. when they got better, then they started to upgrade. I have an old option video with Imamura and Tanaguchi, and they didn't have exessive hp. at that time, and they still were pretty good.

on a side note, they weren't sideways before every turn, either. you can't be pointing the exit of every kind of turn before you get into it. 90 degrees yeah, but not every turn is like that.check out the techniques on this site. maybe even join, especially if you live in Texas. http://www.dailydrifter.com

man, I'm happy this thread was started though. drifting's the ****, *****es!

[Dystopia]

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Quote »Main Entry: drift Pronunciation: 'driftFunction: nounEtymology: Middle English; akin to Old English drIfan to drive -- more at DRIVEDate: 14th century1 a : the act of driving something along b : the flow or the velocity of the current of a river or ocean stream2 : something driven, propelled, or urged along or drawn together in a clump by or as if by a natural agency: as a : wind-driven snow, rain, cloud, dust, or smoke usually at or near the ground surface b (1) : a mass of matter (as sand) deposited together by or as if by wind or water (2) : a helter-skelter accumulation c : DROVE, FLOCK d : something (as driftwood ) washed ashore e : rock debris deposited by natural agents; specifically : a deposit of clay, sand, gravel, and boulders transported by a glacier or by running water from a glacier3 a : a general underlying design or tendency b : the underlying meaning, import, or purport of what is spoken or written4 : something (as a tool) driven down upon or forced into a body5 : the motion or action of drifting especially spatially and usually under external influence: as a : the lateral motion of an aircraft due to air currents b : an easy moderate more or less steady flow or sweep along a spatial course c : a gradual shift in attitude, opinion, or position d : an aimless course; especially : a foregoing of any attempt at direction or control e : a deviation from a true reproduction, representation, or reading6 a : a nearly horizontal mine passageway driven on or parallel to the course of a vein or rock stratum b : a small crosscut in a mine connecting two larger tunnels7 a : an assumed trend toward a general change in the structure of a language over a period of time b : GENETIC DRIFT c : a gradual change in the zero reading of an instrument or in any quantitative characteristic that is supposed to remain constantsynonym see TENDENCY- drifty /'drif-tE/ adjective

Main Entry: drift 2Function: verbDate: circa 1600intransitive senses1 a : to become driven or carried along (as by a current of water, wind, or air) b : to move or float smoothly and effortlessly2 a : to move along a line of least resistance b : to move in a random or casual way c : to become carried along subject to no guidance or control <the talk drifted from topic to topic>3 a : to accumulate in a mass or become piled up in heaps by wind or water b : to become covered with a drift4 : to vary or deviate from a set course or adjustmenttransitive senses1 a : to cause to be driven in a current b West : to drive (livestock) slowly especially to allow grazing2 a : to pile in heaps b : to cover with drifts- drift·ing·ly /'drif-ti[ng]-lE/ adverb

Main Entry: drift·er Pronunciation: 'drif-t&rFunction: nounDate: 1897: one that drifts; especially : one that travels or moves about aimlessly [/quote]it think its hard for any of to really say what drifting is for sure....

[krazy skwerel]

150 hp is a lot out of a 4age they are rated at 115 factory, or righjt at that.

[D-UNIT]

Hey I said I know I'm wrong about the power thing. So I'm going to jump in my honda insight ( auto, open diff.) and do a fat 60 mph drift. How about you check out how we learn to drift. http://www.driftsession.com btw, I also said I have seen automatic kae's doing awesome drifts. All driver, all practice. Pretty soon you be going from good fishtail... to sliding out.... to fat drift with the same car, (but hopefully different tires). If not you didn't practice enough!!! Good Luck!!!

[krazy skwerel]

I wasn't attacking you man I was just saying that the ae86 had 115 hp from factory.

[SilviaLuvr]

does anyone think drifting is pointless?It burns tires,and can seriously mess up your car.Autocross people don't drift around corners because it slows you down and can take you off the track.

Pretty much since your loosing traction. If your in a race and you drift a corner will someone takes a corner, you'll find yourself loosing valuable time.

Don't get me wrong.I love finding an empty wet parking lot and sliding around.But to me drifting is comparable to burnouts.fun to watch but no real racing value.

Drifting is good like at contest and going to Japan and watching real drifters do it and rally drivers doing it on dirt roads, other then that...wump wump wump...