What is the lowest offset

[t2thajfolife]

i have a2007 altima sedan and i want wheels that sit flush with the body and dont rub what is the offset i need to look for, im lookin for 20 in wheels. and what size tires do you guys reccommend??

thx for the help

[johnny_d]

Welcome! To answer your question, +35mm should flush if u don't drop it, search bud, search.

[t2thajfolife]

thx man,

Welcome! To answer your question, +35mm should flush if u don't drop it, search bud, search.

i have been looking al over for that answer...

[t2thajfolife]

wi

Welcome! To answer your question, +35mm should flush if u don't drop it, search bud, search.

ll a 38 offset tuck it just inside the wheel well?

[johnny_d]

+38 is recommended if you're going to drop

[XxXSnake23XxX]

Can someone explain to me what an "offset" isi want to get some rims for my sedan but i honestly dont know where to start

[johnny_d]

5x114.3

[D-Roll]

Can someone explain to me what an "offset" isi want to get some rims for my sedan but i honestly dont know where to start

Offset dictates how a wheel sits in relation to the hub. Factory wheel offset is determined by the location of the center line of the wheel bearings.

Many aftermarket wheels are designed for a specific look or style and may not adhere to the manufacturer's design. You've probably seen wheels that stick out past the vehicle's body (positive offset), and others where the center is nearly flush with the outer portion of the rim (negative offset). While they may have the look or style you desire they may also shorten wheel bearing life.

[rjdmmfl1]

You've probably seen wheels that stick out past the vehicle's body (positive offset), and others where the center is nearly flush with the outer portion of the rim (negative offset). While they may have the look or style you desire they may also shorten wheel bearing life.

That's not correct! Its actually more correct to use the terms higher + offset and lower + offset. No one on this forum would be using negative offset wheels. those are only for RWD cars. But aside from that, D-Roll, you've got the concept reversed. The more positive the offset, the further the wheel will tuck into the fender. The less positive the offset (or the lower the offset), the more the wheel will stick out. we've covered offsets at least 10 times on this forum.

so, a +35 wheel will stick out FURTHER than a +45 wheel, given the same width. Here's a review of wheel offsets!

http://www.raceandroad.com/offset.asp

[rjdmmfl1]

will a 38 offset tuck it just inside the wheel well?

OK, I've seen +35 and +38 offset 20 x 8.5 inch wheels on a car, and I'll tell you, NEITHER OF THEM, will tuck under your fender if you drop your car. You will get rubbing if you drop your car with either setup. You see it actually gets a little complicated, but many factors are involved. 1. tire width (big difference in 245 wide tires vs 225 wide tires)2. rim width3. rim offset4. factory distance of wheel hub to fener wall

The fourth factor is just as important as the others! Because if you look at wheel travel on the factory setup, and imagine a 1 inch drop, you'll see there is only about .5 inch of room to play with before you'll start rubbing if you drop. I did alot of calculations on another thread to figure out which setup will be least likely to drop. You'd have to search and find that, I'm not going through all that math again, but bottom line is this, the lower offset you go with (+40, +38, +35) you are steadily increasing the probability that your tires will rub IF you drop your car.

Oh yes, and according to Eduardo, his rear tires are already starting to rub when he goes over bumps, and he DOESN't have a drop. He's running 20 x 8.5, with +35 offsets and 245 tires. So trust me, if you run this setup, your tires will rub over bumps, especially if you ever decide to drop your car!

[dangeris]

ok...so 20x8.5 with a +35 offset won't work but I would suspect a 20x7.5 would with a +45 offset wrapped with a 235/35R20 tire since that size is very very close to the dimensions of the stock tire.

[AkAd3MiKs]

do you guys know what size rims and offset this coupe has? Look at the rear wheels, I want my rims to have a deep dish like that. Thanks.

[rjdmmfl1]

ok...so 20x8.5 with a +35 offset won't work but I would suspect a 20x7.5 would with a +45 offset wrapped with a 235/35R20 tire since that size is very very close to the dimensions of the stock tire.

yes, with that setup, your tire will only stick out 10mm more than stock, you should be fine with a drop with this setup.

[LongBeachCoupe]

20x8.5 for me 245/35/20 zr nitto extreme 555's...I have ADR propulsion wheels.. i believe the offset is 38.. and there is no way you can drop the car with these on...

[dangeris]

do you guys know what size rims and offset this coupe has? Look at the rear wheels, I want my rims to have a deep dish like that. Thanks.

IF you look closely at his setup, looks like he's running a staggered setup. The front don't look as deep as the back ones do...

*** EDIT ***

Well I guess I stand corrected! The wheels on the coupe are 20x8.5The are Work wheels Varianza TS-1 with Toyo T1R Tires 245/35/20

It looks like the coupe is dropped too but everyone here says you can't drop it if you're running 20's. Maybe it's just for look and they flat bed it to the shows because they know that it would rub

Modified by dangeris at 12:54 PM 1/18/2008
Modified by dangeris at 12:55 PM 1/18/2008

[hooch]

5x114.3

That is not the offset...that is the configuration of the lug nut holes.

[edonissan13]

20x8.5 << 35mm offset

[mazda2005]

Whats up RJ, I have a question about tires. I was just looking around and saw a rim i liked. The dimensions are as follows 18x8 5x114.3 ET40. Would you happen to know the proper tire size without messing up the speedometer too much. Tirerack suggested 225/45 R18 or there is a better match?

Thanks

[rjdmmfl1]

Whats up RJ, I have a question about tires. I was just looking around and saw a rim i liked. The dimensions are as follows 18x8 5x114.3 ET40. Would you happen to know the proper tire size without messing up the speedometer too much. Tirerack suggested 225/45 R18 or there is a better match?

Thanks

for 18's, these are the following diameters of various tire setups, keep in mind, stock tire diameter is 26.3"

225/45/18 = 25.97"235/45/18= 26.3"245/45/18= 26.68"

So any of the above would work fine, with 235/45/20 providing exact factory specs! You probably would barely notice the difference in reported mph with the other two setups!

[mazda2005]

i follow what your saying. I tirerack and discount tire both suggest 225/45r18. what i dont understand is why they wouldnt recomend the 235/45r18 if the diameter matches the stack diameter?

thanks!

[johnny_d]

Yo, Robert!

I just bought some 19s wheels. Yes i know tires cost a ton but four brand new RH forged wheels (R7) for $650 I couldn't resist. Would have loved to get the RH R5 but they were not the ones being cleared out. Aniway, they are 19x8 and 235/40/19 tires were not available so I got the next best thing 245/40/19. Offset +38. Should that clear if i drop it?

[rjdmmfl1]

Yo, Robert!

I just bought some 19s wheels. Yes i know tires cost a ton but four brand new RH forged wheels (R7) for $650 I couldn't resist. Would have loved to get the RH R5 but they were not the ones being cleared out. Aniway, they are 19x8 and 235/40/19 tires were not available so I got the next best thing 245/40/19. Offset +38. Should that clear if i drop it?

would it clear if you drop??? maybe! would it clear if you drop and hit bumps... I doubt it!!

Next time I see you, I'll do the math for you on paper... itss too complicated to explain over this. But the biggest problem you'll have is the 245 tires! As a rough guesstimate, you tires will stick out about 25 mm more than the stock setup (and that includes rim width, offset, and tire width factored in) So go out to your car, measure 25mm extra from the side wall, imagine a 1 inch drop, then image going over bumps. If the suspension on the rear tires is VERY stiff, and doesn't travel much at all, then maybe you'll be fine. Its one of those things that, regardless of what FOXMARKETING says, you're just gonna have to wait and see for yourself!

Oh yeah, and have fun replacing those 19" tires! lol

[Loop]

Wow Johnny, that is a really good deal. Its like buying 1 wheel and get 3 free! Good job on the find. RH are very good wheels.

Yo, Robert!

I just bought some 19s wheels. Yes i know tires cost a ton but four brand new RH forged wheels (R7) for $650 I couldn't resist. Would have loved to get the RH R5 but they were not the ones being cleared out. Aniway, they are 19x8 and 235/40/19 tires were not available so I got the next best thing 245/40/19. Offset +38. Should that clear if i drop it?

[R1Wolf]

do you guys know what size rims and offset this coupe has? Look at the rear wheels, I want my rims to have a deep dish like that. Thanks.

I asked a guy at ravspeconline.com since they sell these wheels. He wasn't sure but said that you wouldn't want to run a staggered setup on this car. He recommeneded running a different disk sizes, the inner curvature of the of the rim. I'd never heard of this but I guess you can custom order the WORKs rims like this. I really like they way that car looks with it's wheels except I'm only looking at a 19x8.5...

[Sertelegger]

Thanks guys, this thread has really helped me to understand what all those numbers on wheel specs mean. I had a basic understanding before, but now I definitely understand that bigger isn't always better

So now I have two questions:

1. I understand that when people say +1 they mean a one inch bigger wheel size. But what is the baseline for that? 16"? My Altima 3.5 SE came with 17s, is that already considered +1? I am asking because those AP breaks on the Stillen website say "+1 required" to fit them, but it's not immediately clear to me if that means 17 or 18? Just asking out of curiosity, since I'm planning to get 18s I should be fine either way.

2. I'm somewhat of a Nismo nut so I was looking at the Nismo alloy wheels for the Altima, here the specs copied from the website:# 18x8.5# 45mm offset 5 lug# Fits OEM tire size 245-/45R18 (3.5L) or 235/45R18 (2.5L)a) Most people here were talking about offsets between 35 and 40mm, but these wheels have 45mm, which almost sounds like it is too much Is that what the stock wheels have?b) On the website it says for 2002-2006 Altima, can someone explain to me why those wheels would not work/fit on a 2007+ Altima?

Bonus question: Are black wheels on a black Altima really played out? I've been playing around with the TireRack website to preview different colors on my car, and somehow it looks pretty dark if everything is black, but I'm also not too much into the silver ones either. Maybe some gunmetal gray will do for me?

[LongBeachCoupe]

our questions can be answered in the posts above... You are going to spend 1500 on a AP brake setup?

Black? hah

[Sertelegger]

No I'm not saying I'm getting the AP brake setup (at least not right now, lol), I was just wondering what they think the +1 means, if it's 17 or 18.

And yeah forget about question 2a, but what about 2b? There is nothing that would make the wheel not fit on a 2007+ model, right?

LongBeachCoupe, do you have another shot of your car from farther away (and without the MySpace angle ), I've been trying to find some photos of other black Altimas with black rims? However, what I'm talking about is all black wheels, yours are only black in the middle and the rim part is still silver.

I had something like this in mind:

[rjdmmfl1]

Thanks guys, this thread has really helped me to understand what all those numbers on wheel specs mean. I had a basic understanding before, but now I definitely understand that bigger isn't always better

So now I have two questions:

1. I understand that when people say +1 they mean a one inch bigger wheel size. But what is the baseline for that? 16"? My Altima 3.5 SE came with 17s, is that already considered +1? I am asking because those AP breaks on the Stillen website say "+1 required" to fit them, but it's not immediately clear to me if that means 17 or 18? Just asking out of curiosity, since I'm planning to get 18s I should be fine either way.

2. I'm somewhat of a Nismo nut so I was looking at the Nismo alloy wheels for the Altima, here the specs copied from the website:# 18x8.5# 45mm offset 5 lug# Fits OEM tire size 245-/45R18 (3.5L) or 235/45R18 (2.5L)a) Most people here were talking about offsets between 35 and 40mm, but these wheels have 45mm, which almost sounds like it is too much Is that what the stock wheels have?b) On the website it says for 2002-2006 Altima, can someone explain to me why those wheels would not work/fit on a 2007+ Altima?

Bonus question: Are black wheels on a black Altima really played out? I've been playing around with the TireRack website to preview different colors on my car, and somehow it looks pretty dark if everything is black, but I'm also not too much into the silver ones either. Maybe some gunmetal gray will do for me?

Sertelegger,if you plan on dropping your car, then the +45's will be PERFECT! Only thing is, they will be tucked under, so if you want the flush with fender look, then you could still get these wheels, but you could use like 3mm or 5mm spacers and get it exactly as flush as you want! Remember, it's easier to get higher offset wheels and then use small spacers to make them stick out a bit more (like Eric did). But you can NOT get lower offset wheels, and then say, oh s*it, I wanna drop the car but my wheels stick out too far! In that situation, you're just SOL!

As far as will it fir 2007+ altimas, absolutely. The bolt pattern hasn't changed on the Altimas, but what HAS changed from 3rd generation to 4th generation Altimas is the size of the wheelwell. Its larger now, thus if someone gets a slightly lower offset wheel (+35 ~ +40) than stock, you can still get away with it not rubbing. On the 3rd generation Altimas, if you put 20" wheels on your car with less than +40 offset wheels, it was gonna rub, period!

As far as black on black being played out, nothing is EVER played out if YOU like the way it looks. You may get people that say they don't like it, but hell, its not their car. Just because someone else doesn't like it doesn't mean they are played out. Its all about you getting what YOU want, screw anyone else that complains about your choice in wheels.

[Loop]

Robert,

The wheels you saw on my car at the meet, were the Forged Rays 57F which are the Nismo/Gramlights. When you talk about flushed, do you mean the tire or the wheel? The Lip on my wheel is flushed with the fender. Any lower offset my lip would stick out. Though my tires are tuck under and they are 225.

Stats: 18x8.5 +45 offset

[dangeris]

As far as black on black being played out, nothing is EVER played out if YOU like the way it looks. You may get people that say they don't like it, but hell, its not their car. Just because someone else doesn't like it doesn't mean they are played out. Its all about you getting what YOU want, screw anyone else that complains about your choice in wheels.

I'm with Doc! Until other people start making your car payments (if you have them) who cares what they say. It's YOUR car so make it YOUR car!!!
Modified by dangeris at 5:41 PM 1/23/2008