What is the lowest offset

[Sertelegger]

Thanks rjdmmfl1 for the helpful and detailed information! I've always been more on the passive side and read a lot about other people's mods, but now I finally want to get some stuff done on my car. I always do a lot of research and try to find everything out on my own because I don't want to look stupid, but in this case I figured just asking the questions might be the fastest way

The irony is that I had a new 2005 350z Convertible in Daytona Blue which I bought in December 2004 and left stock (and absolutely immaculate) for three years, and then traded it in for my black Altima 3.5 SE Sedan in September 2007, and now I want to mod my car

I always wanted to put the Nismo wheels and some Nismo mods on the Z but was afraid that once I start I won't stop (sounds familiar anyone?). Now with the Altima I care less about the resale value of the car, since I'll probably keep it until I pass it on to my kids anyway

Now that I think about it I think the real irony is that in three years of doing crazy stuff in the Z I got away with never getting a speeding ticket until the very last day. One day before I picked up my Altima I took the Z out for a last ride and got pulled over going 95 (on the on-ramp to a freeway) Well at least I went out with a bang!

[rjdmmfl1]

Robert,

The wheels you saw on my car at the meet, were the Forged Rays 57F which are the Nismo/Gramlights. When you talk about flushed, do you mean the tire or the wheel? The Lip on my wheel is flushed with the fender. Any lower offset my lip would stick out. Though my tires are tuck under and they are 225.

Stats: 18x8.5 +45 offset

Vincent,when people mention flush, it can vary whether each person is talking tire or wheel. The point you bring up about your wheels is an excellent example! When it comes to dropping a car and what not, although every bit of info is important (rim width, rim offset, tire width and profile) what becomes extremely important in the end is the tire width. So you can imagine, on the same wheel, a 245 tire looks very differnt than a 225 tire. More so, the 245 tire will stick out an extra 10 mm than a 225 tire would (although 20 mm wider, only10 mm on each side of the mounting point on the hub)

So, for your car, you can change the look of your wheel setup just by adjusting the tire selection! So to answer your question, it depends on who says it and what they mean in that situation! Most folks think about the entire wheel/tire combo being flush, but as you just pointed out, the wheel could be flush and the tire could tuck under (which in IMHO is the best setup for dropping your vehicle, but may not necessarily be the most optimum setup for handling and grip on the road)

[dangeris]

I'm thinking of getting 18x7.5 +45 wheels for my coupe with 235/45/18s (if I can find them) I see plenty of 235/40 but I'm trying to stay as close as I can to the stock diameter of the stock tire, which is 215/55/17s. Dropping down to 40s my speedo will be faster by about 3mph. Using the same rim width and offset, I know when I drop the coupe with a set of Pro-lines, it's gonna clear and rubbing.

[Loop]

Vincent,when people mention flush, it can vary whether each person is talking tire or wheel. The point you bring up about your wheels is an excellent example! When it comes to dropping a car and what not, although every bit of info is important (rim width, rim offset, tire width and profile) what becomes extremely important in the end is the tire width. So you can imagine, on the same wheel, a 245 tire looks very differnt than a 225 tire. More so, the 245 tire will stick out an extra 10 mm than a 225 tire would (although 20 mm wider, only10 mm on each side of the mounting point on the hub)

So, for your car, you can change the look of your wheel setup just by adjusting the tire selection! So to answer your question, it depends on who says it and what they mean in that situation! Most folks think about the entire wheel/tire combo being flush, but as you just pointed out, the wheel could be flush and the tire could tuck under (which in IMHO is the best setup for dropping your vehicle, but may not necessarily be the most optimum setup for handling and grip on the road)

Thanks a lot Robbert. Very nice information.

[AkAd3MiKs]

I asked a guy at ravspeconline.com since they sell these wheels. He wasn't sure but said that you wouldn't want to run a staggered setup on this car. He recommeneded running a different disk sizes, the inner curvature of the of the rim. I'd never heard of this but I guess you can custom order the WORKs rims like this. I really like they way that car looks with it's wheels except I'm only looking at a 19x8.5...

why isnt it a good thing to run a staggered setup for this car? Also what do you mean by running different disk sizes? Man, I really want to run some deep dish rims. Im gonna go with with 19x8.5 in the front and 19x9 in the back. As for the offset Im gonna try go with the same as the foxmarketing guys.

[alphapig]

why isnt it a good thing to run a staggered setup for this car? Also what do you mean by running different disk sizes? Man, I really want to run some deep dish rims. Im gonna go with with 19x8.5 in the front and 19x9 in the back. As for the offset Im gonna try go with the same as the foxmarketing guys.

Well... You will be running bigger tires in the back on a FWD car... Doesn't make too much sense outside of the appearance.

[R1Wolf]

why isnt it a good thing to run a staggered setup for this car? Also what do you mean by running different disk sizes? Man, I really want to run some deep dish rims. Im gonna go with with 19x8.5 in the front and 19x9 in the back. As for the offset Im gonna try go with the same as the foxmarketing guys.

Another thing that comes to mind is cost, you won't be able to rotate the tires, at all. As most performance tires are directional you can't move them left to right. And because of the offset, wider rim and tire, you can't move them front to back... You'll likely be replacing the front tires quite often.

[AkAd3MiKs]

hmmm....could i run +25 offset in the front? If so, I might jus go with +25 in the front and back. If not then o well. I guess Ill just have to keep changing tires. I hardly drive the car anyway. Had it about 2 months already and only 300 miles on the car. Mileage woulda been less if I wasnt so busy during christmas and new years. Mostly goin for a "all show no go" kinda car.

[rjdmmfl1]

hmmm....could i run +25 offset in the front? If so, I might jus go with +25 in the front and back. If not then o well. I guess Ill just have to keep changing tires. I hardly drive the car anyway. Had it about 2 months already and only 300 miles on the car. Mileage woulda been less if I wasnt so busy during christmas and new years. Mostly goin for a "all show no go" kinda car.

Yeah you could, but your tires will stick out about an inch more than they do right now. I have yet to understand the attraction of running RWD offset wheels on FWD cars.

[johnny_d]

Yo, Robert! Did u get your wheels yet? cuz u mentioned wanting to get rid of your stock wheels. BTW, regarding the backup camera, the instruction said the red wire goes to ur backup light, the black go to the common ground. I asked this mechanic guy for help and the backup wire measured like 3volts when not in reverse. Aniway, it didn't work w/o the headlights being on so like you said it's gonna require a constant power source. He gave me a relay unit and showed me how to wire it up. I'm not sure about running a wire from the fuse yet so haven't tried yet

[dj figz]

20x8.5 for me 245/35/20 zr nitto extreme 555's...I have ADR propulsion wheels.. i believe the offset is 38.. and there is no way you can drop the car with these on...

do u have any problems with ur tires rubing i am thinking about geting a +38 offset rim

[rjdmmfl1]

do u have any problems with ur tires rubing i am thinking about geting a +38 offset rim

LBC has a 2.5 coupe, remember, the suspension is different between the coupe and the sedan!

[dj figz]

LBC has a 2.5 coupe, remember, the suspension is different between the coupe and the sedan!

hmm....i found a set of rims with a 45 offset from the same company of the 38 offset. can you check these out and tell me if all the dimmensions good and if these will rub and what tire size a 225/35/19 or a 235/35/19???thnksheres the link for the rimshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...sting

[LongBeachCoupe]

Make sure you call them up to order, and ask for it atleast 10% cheaper than the auction says... they will do it, and include free lugs.

[dj figz]

Make sure you call them up to order, and ask for it atleast 10% cheaper than the auction says... they will do it, and include free lugs.

is that were u got ur rims

i orignaly wanted to get the proplussions or the spartans but i coudknt find them in the 45mm im gunna try to call them to see if they have them maybe i just didnt look good enough.

the lugs they gave you were they the ones that lock?

also do u happen to have a side pic of ur car so i can get an idea of what the proplussions look like oon a black car thnks

[dj figz]

also which tire size should i go with 225/35/19 or 235/35/19??

[rjdmmfl1]

hmm....i found a set of rims with a 45 offset from the same company of the 38 offset. can you check these out and tell me if all the dimmensions good and if these will rub and what tire size a 225/35/19 or a 235/35/19???thnksheres the link for the rimshttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...sting

if you get +45 offset wheels, even if you were running 245 tires and a 8.5 inch wheel, you should be fine not gonna rub!!! Probably won't even rub even with a drop.

Remember, +45 is the way to go, if at all possible! I wouldn't go any lower than +35, but some folks here have gone as low as +24...

In regards to tires, try to stay close to OEM, so 235/40/19 would be ideal, but if you have to choose between only the two you mentioned, then obviously go with the 235/35/19 ... but that's 1" smaller diameter than stock, so your wheels will overrotate when driving...just do it correctly and go with 235/40/19

[Couper Dude]

I just bought New Wheels and I joined here today so I can get more information on modding my car. After doing home work Im going with Sevas Forged R66 Wheels 20x8 and 20x9.5 in he rear. I will post pics soon but still learning this forum thing. Front 38mm and rear 42mm and I will be tucking tire. Im doing a 245/30/20 front and 255/30/20 rear.

[LongBeachCoupe]

Yes i got mine from there.. as far as i know ADR offers them in 1 offset.. thats all

I just bought New Wheels and I joined here today so I can get more information on modding my car. After doing home work Im going with Sevas Forged R66 Wheels 20x8 and 20x9.5 in he rear. I will post pics soon but still learning this forum thing. Front 38mm and rear 42mm and I will be tucking tire. Im doing a 245/30/20 front and 255/30/20 rear.

Reverse Stagger? Welcome to the forums...

[dj figz]

ok so i got the rims and the tires!!!!

i got the rims and i got general uhp tires lug nuts mounted and balanced for 1149

they should be comeing in on tues

i ended up going with the 225/35/19 tire size

heres the link of the rims i gothttp://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...photo

[mazda2005]

I just ordered the Eibach Pro Kit springs. I wanted to know if i ran the following setup if i would be safe or there will be a good chance of rubbing?

18 x 7.5 45+ 115X4.3235/45 ZR18

Thanks!

[dj figz]

u should be

I just ordered the Eibach Pro Kit springs. I wanted to know if i ran the following setup if i would be safe or there will be a good chance of rubbing?

18 x 7.5 45+ 115X4.3235/45 ZR18

Thanks!

u should be fine. but remember ur on a 45 series tire so its a lil thicker.

also when u get the springs put in you wont know how fare it realy drops until the springs break in.

i have known to many people droping thier cars then they regreat it when they smash up thier under carage or geting alot of rubing from the tires

but with 18s you should be fine.

try asking someone who used those springs and see how fare thier car droped

[dangeris]

I just ordered the Eibach Pro Kit springs. I wanted to know if i ran the following setup if i would be safe or there will be a good chance of rubbing?

18 x 7.5 45+ 115X4.3235/45 ZR18

Thanks!

yup you'll be fine. Your keeping the same width anf offset of the rim AND that tire size you picked is the same diameter of the stock 215/55/17 except now the tire will be less than a 1/2" wider on both size.

[dj figz]

ok so orginaly i was geting 225/35/19 but with that it is going to be an inch smaller then the ones i have on my car

stock tire diamter:26.2

225/35/19 diamter:25.2 when going 60 im realy going 57

so i called the company up and i was able to switch it to 245/35/19

245/35/19 diamter:25.8 when im going 60 im rly going 59.1

the 245/35/19 is also what tire rack suggested o and the rims i got are a 45 offset so i think i should be fine now with all the dimensions or i could be wrong hopefully not cuz i orderd them allready lol

[rjdmmfl1]

Wheels 20x8 and 20x9.5 in he rear. Front 38mm and rear 42mm and I will be tucking tire. Im doing a 245/30/20 front and 255/30/20 rear.

do you mean rolling the fender???? because without rolling your fender, there is absolutely NO WAY these will tuck under your rear fender... 9.5" rear wheels, w/ +42 offset and 255 tires... your rear tire/wheel will stick out over 2" more than the stock setup... that's not gonna tuck without rolling your fenders

[Mr. Music]

...Im going with Sevas Forged R66 Wheels

Those are going to cost an arm and a leg too. I wanted to go with he R5, but they are too expensive...

[mcheddadi]

+25 offset... that's what the blowup says, but looking at them, they def don't look like +25 offset wheels... the link you sent says they're +48 offset... def try to do a test ft... the higher offset plus wider tires may cause the backspacing to be too high, and they may rub on the inside of your wheel well rather than the outside!!!

***EDIT***

nevermind, the link wouldn't come up before, I now see there are many offsets to choose from...

Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 12:55 PM 2/13/2008

from what I'm understanding, stock are 17x7.5 +45, so if I go with 19x8.5 +40, it should only stick out: (45mm - 40 mm) + (8.5inch - 7.5inch)/2 = 5mm + 0.5inch =~18milimeters

and if I go with +30 offset its going to stick out: (45mm - 30 mm) + (8.5inch - 7.5inch)/2 = 15mm + 0.5inch = ~27 millimeters

is that correct?

What's the best offset? Does one offset look better than the other? Is 27mm too dangerous for rubbing issues?

[dj figz]

from what I'm understanding, stock are 17x7.5 +45, so if I go with 19x8.5 +40, it should only stick out: (45mm - 40 mm) + (8.5inch - 7.5inch)/2 = 5mm + 0.5inch =~18milimeters

and if I go with +30 offset its going to stick out: (45mm - 30 mm) + (8.5inch - 7.5inch)/2 = 15mm + 0.5inch = ~27 millimeters

is that correct?

What's the best offset? Does one offset look better than the other? Is 27mm too dangerous for rubbing issues?

i know the best offset for a 07 sedan is 45 it might be differant on the coupe if i was u go to tirerack put in ur make of ur car and look at the rims it gives u and just check the offsets on those

[dj figz]

i just found out that that my rims are not 45 offset

they are

19" 8.5 with a 40 offset

am i going to rub with these???

the tires are 245/35/19

[alphapig]

i just found out that that my rims are not 45 offset

they are

19" 8.5 with a 40 offset

am i going to rub with these???

the tires are 245/35/19

40 offset should be fine with 19x 8.5.

The tires are thicker, as they are 245, but I don't think this will be a problem unless you are looking to lower your ride.

I think that 225/40/19 is the way to go, but I may be wrong