What else do I need to finish my engine build?

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im a noob here but even i know that if your willing to build you an engine, why not spend that $300 dollars and invest it into the cooling system. it would just be a smart decision. dont want your biggest investment in your car to blow on you........


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because its NOT necessary for a street car.... thats why. trust me, ive built a handful of boosted street cars, and ran all of those on stock rads. two of them were hondas.... you obviously dont have experience in this field. do boosted cars from the factory come with some sort of upgraded radiator vs the non boosted model??? show me.

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j-z wrote:because its NOT necessary for a street car.... thats why. trust me, ive built a handful of boosted street cars, and ran all of those on stock rads. two of them were hondas.... you obviously dont have experience in this field. do boosted cars from the factory come with some sort of upgraded radiator vs the non boosted model??? show me.
Very true, and by no means am I saying I won't purchase an aftermarket radiator, but its not a necessity right now. My main focus is to get the car finished and running right, and by just putting close to 700 bucks out to finish it I don't have the extra to buy one. So please everyone drop it, is there anything little i'm missing?

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well he said track car.....
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lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

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AFR gauge

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Future_gohan wrote:is there anything little i'm missing?
If you're going to track the car, I would consider the following:

- Wideband O2 Sensor- Water and Oil temp guages- Upgraded radiator and oil cooling system (even if you don't start with it, you'll want it down the road)- Use legit lubricants and fluids (I see you're buying a lot of ebay/lower quality stuff which is cool, but don't cheap out on your fluids.)

I'm sure there's more I could think of but that's a start. What exhaust manifold are you using?


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lol this thread is ridiculous...ANYWAY...I don't think 550cc injectors are necessary but you have a good parts list. Sorry for having to say this again, but if it's track only, you should really get an aluminum radiator and oil cooler for the turbo.

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mattblancarte wrote:
If you're going to track the car, I would consider the following:

- Wideband O2 Sensor- Water and Oil temp guages- Upgraded radiator and oil cooling system (even if you don't start with it, you'll want it down the road)- Use legit lubricants and fluids (I see you're buying a lot of ebay/lower quality stuff which is cool, but don't cheap out on your fluids.)

I'm sure there's more I could think of but that's a start. What exhaust manifold are you using?
I have both a water and oil temp and pressure gauges. I'm not buying many lower quality items, most is from enjuku and a lot of used brand name items. But I plan on welding my diff and using all synthetic engine fluids.

I think other then the ebay intercooler everything else is from pretty decent companys.. And I do plan on eventually getting a wideband..

@ the guy about the injectors..

Most of the stuff i purchased was for upgradeability. I'm going to use many of the parts for my sr20det build..like the injectors..exhaust intercooler etc.

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Look partner, we are trying to help ya out so dont get it all twisted thinking we are being ***holes. You want to be SAFE, and having it as a track car your gonna be riding it hard all the time so it WILL be hotter, if you want to keep your engine in decent shape you SHOULD buy:+ a new aluminum radiator-PBM has good stuff, cant go wrong with Mishimoto+wideband AFR gauge because you will want to know if your running rich or lean, no matter what if you have a boosted car..no matter what. ESPECIALLY if its a track car

Im sure that people like the guy earlier have run with the stock radiator and have been fine, but the question is..do you want to risk all the money and time you have invested?

The majority of us seem to agree that you need to do the above^ so take it or leave it, but if your engine blows-dont say we didnt warn you

oh and we will tell you "I told ya so"

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DriftBoy07 wrote:Look partner, we are trying to help ya out so dont get it all twisted thinking we are being ***holes. You want to be SAFE, and having it as a track car your gonna be riding it hard all the time so it WILL be hotter, if you want to keep your engine in decent shape you SHOULD buy:+ a new aluminum radiator-PBM has good stuff, cant go wrong with Mishimoto+wideband AFR gauge because you will want to know if your running rich or lean, no matter what if you have a boosted car..no matter what. ESPECIALLY if its a track car

Im sure that people like the guy earlier have run with the stock radiator and have been fine, but the question is..do you want to risk all the money and time you have invested?

The majority of us seem to agree that you need to do the above^ so take it or leave it, but if your engine blows-dont say we didnt warn you

oh and we will tell you "I told ya so"
But heres the thing, if it starts to run hot, just shut it off, I won't push it past that limit where it'll blow. I'm running it stock right now and when i get the money i'll purchase a wideband and turbo timer.

I AGREE with you i need it, but its not gonna happen yet. in due time it will but for now it will be fine. have some faith in people.

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I have faith in people, but not in your setup. You are not gonna be too focused on the temp gauge when your going 65mph around a corner. Keep that in mind, but if you think its worth your money and time then good luck..

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Future_gohan wrote:But heres the thing, if it starts to run hot, just shut it off
I'd say a better idea would be to slow down and take it easy when you are 5 degrees C away from the water temp threshold. You don't want to just shut the motor off without letting it cool down first. In those instances you just coast in 5th around the track until you get around to the pit area.

DriftBoy makes a good point about monitoring your gauges. You'll only do it once, maybe twice a lap. If you get anywhere near overheating, pull off the track. You don't want to be the jerk spraying fluid on the tarmac...

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mattblancarte wrote:
I'd say a better idea would be to slow down and take it easy when you are 5 degrees C away from the water temp threshold. You don't want to just shut the motor off without letting it cool down first. In those instances you just coast in 5th around the track until you get around to the pit area.

DriftBoy makes a good point about monitoring your gauges. You'll only do it once, maybe twice a lap. If you get anywhere near overheating, pull off the track. You don't want to be the jerk spraying fluid on the tarmac...
If and when I start noticing that I'll take your advice and get right off. if it starts to happen often i'll go out first thing and purchase a new radiator.

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Future_gohan wrote:
If and when I start noticing that I'll take your advice and get right off. if it starts to happen often i'll go out first thing and purchase a new radiator.
Genius of fail. You are a complete idiot. You dont care what we have to say do you. BUY A MOTHERF**KIN RADIATOR AND SHUT THE F*CK UP. NOW.

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Future_gohan wrote:
But heres the thing, if it starts to run hot, just shut it off, I won't push it past that limit where it'll blow. I'm running it stock right now and when i get the money i'll purchase a wideband and turbo timer.

I AGREE with you i need it, but its not gonna happen yet. in due time it will but for now it will be fine. have some faith in people.
Ya, just shut it off, that'll be good....

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just let him run his car with the heater on full blasst! and go 100mph. that will bring the temp down.

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Future_gohan wrote:
But heres the thing, if it starts to run hot, just shut it off
Cars heat up after theyre shut off...

Like they said: pull over and let the car idle maybe with the hood up would be a much wiser idea.
Modified by urcaptnspeaking at 6:20 PM 5/8/2009

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But god forbid the kid buys the parts to prevent such overheating.

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Stop hasseling him Let him do what he wants, im sure he will buy a racing radiator but you dont need to be d!ck about it.

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idahos13 wrote:Stop hasseling him Let him do what he wants, im sure he will buy a racing radiator but you dont need to be d!ck about it.
Yo, did we ask you to speak. Your 15...Uh, you should only speak when spoken to. There should definately be a rule about at least being old enough to have a valid drivers license to post. No offense, but, we werent d!ck first. He has asked for suggested parts to finish a build and every last person on here has recomended something that the OP said isnt nessesary. Therefore, we are not the d!ck. You and the OP are the d!ck. You are for defending him, and he is because, well, he just is.

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i think i've already told you this but i like you man! your keeping it real in 240 gen chat..good work.

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I dont really care if you asked me to speak ya im 15 but I have just as much right as you do to say something on here. All I said is stop hasseling him he gets the point that you think it is a good idea to get a aluminum radiator man, thats all i said, I didnt mean to start a argument man. So are we good?

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Look, this is how the real world works. If a person asks for suggestions and then flat out denies the suggestions purpose, then, that person is a complete jerkoff and doesnt deserve to post. If you defend that said person, then you, yourself have opened yourself up for ridicule. Being that you are very young, most people arent gonna take you very seriously unless you start showing your skills and your car, then you might have a right to post here. Being so young, if you are here in interest of Nissans and 240sx's then do alot of reading and take it all in. Happy to see that the 240sx isnt gonna be lost in the next generation, just a little afraid of whats to come from your generation. Post all you like kid, and I'm not a mod or anything, just very opinionated.

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I asked what else I need to get this car running...as I've stated I HAVE a radiator, I plan on upgrading eventually like I said, but its not a necessity till the car is on the road and it starts to have a over heating problem. If when i'm racing and it starts to over heat I will follow the correct acts to slow the over heating down. But as I and many others have said and witnessed, there hasn't been to many over heating problems with ka-ts with this kind of power. I understand your opinionated but use your legs and go become a lawyer or something because to be very honest not many care about what your saying..

Now as I've said once before and I can say it again. "what else do I need to get this car up and running" NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS

I know there is more I need, I want to pick up a safcII, boost controller, radiator, some misc gauges, and more. but right now me just like everyone else has a budget, so I'm using it to the best of my ability.

I NEVER ONCE said anything rude, untill you started your s***. I know how to build engines and so do you, we have different opinions on how to do it..Thats how the world is right?

now end it, if nobody else has anthing to add to my list seriously, just lock the thread mods and call it a day, this is so annoying to keep popping up in my recent topics when i myself stopped posting in it. Thank you. Good day.

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Enjoy

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wow.... and thats not directed to the op.

seriously people dam*

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Why even risk it? Why wait till it over heats to decided to change it? Thats like running a 600whp motor with a stock clutch and be like ooooh il just change it when it starts slipping...If you have the freaking rad put it in! Even the 15 year old agrees!

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Do you need a boost controller to start the car?

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DriftBoy07 wrote:Do you need a boost controller to start the car?
Please read before you post. wow nico.

"I want to pick up..."

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Future_gohan wrote:
Please read before you post. wow nico.

"I want to pick up..."
You know what though dude, your a real jerk. What you need to do is what everyone else that builds a KAT does. Looks through the KAT section and figure it out. You seem to know so much when we suggest anything, so, I think you should be left to do some searching and decide on your own what parts you would like to buy to get it running, you dont ask for help and then be a jerk to anyone that tries to help. You are a class A jerkoff and even worse than that, your gonna build a half a**ed car. This is a true failure of a thread and worse a failure of a build. Hope you learn to grow up some day.


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