What else do I need to finish my engine build?

[Future_gohan]

okay..I'm doing my final order for the rest of my parts for the car..

i'm building a ka24det with a t25 turbo.

• Turbo (SR T25 Turbo)• Manifold (Megan Racing Downpipe)• Actuator (HKS Adjustable)• Intercooler [ebay intercooler]• Intercooler Piping [Enjuku Racing ]• Silicone Couplers [Enjuku Racing ]• Blow off Valve (BOV) and corresponding flanged pipe [Blitz dd ]• Clamps [Enjuku Racing ]• Battery Relocation kit• Z32 Mass Air Flow Sensor• Walbro 255 Fuel Pump • Injectors (550cc Injectors)• ECU Tune• Colder Spark Plugs (Part Number BKR7E) NGK V Power• Turbo Elbow (Megan Racing )• Down Pipe (Megan Racing)• Test Pipe (Megan racing)• Exhaust Cat-Back (blitz) • Remove oil pain and weld a bung (done)• Oil line w/restrictor (if necessary ) (done)• Oil lines that connect to your oil pan(done)• Coolant lines• Electric Fans• Boost Gauge (Megan Racing )• Oil Pressure Gauge (Megan Racing) • BOV [Blitz DD ] • Clutch (SPEC Stage 3)• 180sx VLSD / Welded Diff

If it doesn't have (__) I haven't purchased it..

Currently on my list from enjuku is:

some exhaust gaskets, ecu tune, walbro 255, and a magnetic drain plug.

I still need to get my turbo coolant lines. And I have some altima fans i'll be picking up soon.

So what else should i pick up from enjuku wiling i'm at it?

[nifares240]

how much power are you looking for? you will need a wideband, stronger clutch and aluminum flywheel, bigger radiator and colder thermostat.
Modified by nifares240 at 9:10 AM 5/7/2009

[Future_gohan]

I have a bottom mount I'm looking for around 270whp at 12~13psi and I have a spec stage 3+ clutch, i don't need that. I got my flywheel resurfaced and the bigger rad and such isn't needed for these numbers.

[nifares240]

you're going to run hot.

[Future_gohan]

you're going to run hot.

It'll run fine, people do it all the time. so I'm not gonna worry about that right now.

[blacksrjdm]

It'll run fine, people do it all the time. so I'm not gonna worry about that right now.

People do do it all the time, and complain about running hot. Do yourself a favor and buy an aluminum rad. Also, if you want the engine to last, then I would rebuild with pistons and rods, and an aftermarket head gasket with ARP studs. Get the clutch, your definately gonna need it. Stock clutch with a resurfaced flywheel is just gonna slip on ya.
Modified by blacksrjdm at 10:25 AM 5/7/2009

[Future_gohan]

Lol. Seriously does nobody on nico read? wow

I have a SPEC STAGE 3+ 6 puck clutch.

People push 400+ hp with ka-t's and t25 turbo chargers are nothing with the right tune the engine will last this summer and it'll run fine.

At 250ish hp the engine will not run hot enough to need the aftermarket rad, I've already looked into it and with some altima fans wired to run when i want them too it'll be fine.

Now for everyone, what parts are left that i need for it to run? I already have the engine rebuilt with all new gaskets and everything else..

What ignition does everyone run?

[blacksrjdm]

Lol. Seriously does nobody on nico read? wow

I have a SPEC STAGE 3+ 6 puck clutch.

People push 400+ hp with ka-t's and t25 turbo chargers are nothing with the right tune the engine will last this summer and it'll run fine.

At 250ish hp the engine will not run hot enough to need the aftermarket rad, I've already looked into it and with some altima fans wired to run when i want them too it'll be fine.

Now for everyone, what parts are left that i need for it to run? I already have the engine rebuilt with all new gaskets and everything else..

What ignition does everyone run?

U also said...

I have a bottom mount I'm looking for around 270whp at 12~13psi and I have a spec stage 3+ clutch, i don't need that. I got my flywheel resurfaced and the bigger rad and such isn't needed for these numbers.

But since you know all, you dont seem to need anyones experience or help. I have only built about 8 KAT's, one with around 550 Hp and 4 600 HP SR's. But you'll be fine, because you know all. You think that rad is good, great, your gonna find out that a rad might have been a good investment.

And your not pushing 400HP with an SR t25. Not big enough. Why dont you use your "looking into it" powers and figure out what your missing. Get off your high horse, and maybe listen to the people that have some experience with this. I will, not be helping you any longer with this. You can figure it out on your own, People have suggested different things and you stated that you will be fine. So be fine, and figure it out.

[blacksrjdm]

It'll run fine, people do it all the time. so I'm not gonna worry about that right now.

Just so you know, my buddy frank thought that too. Now he needs a new turbo, head gasket and maybe a head. Head gasket popped and it was new. The motor was pretty fresh too.

[Future_gohan]

Sucks when people can't build engines. sorry..

[blacksrjdm]

Sucks when people can't build engines. sorry..

No fool, are you reading you idiot. I said that the motor would have been fine if he had bought a rad. He had altima fans and stock rad, with a low mileage s14 KA24DE. Compression was great accross the board along with the oil pressure and everything else. Had a Rom tune, and while he was driving through the city it started to overheat, fans didnt help in the heat of the summer and the head gasket popped, which in turn, could have warped the head. The turbo had gotten so hot that the seals blew out and he just about has to start from scratch. But it was by no means any fault of the engine builder.

[Beems240sx]

Just let this moron blow up his motor so we can all laugh at him.

[Future_gohan]

Just let this moron blow up his motor so we can all laugh at him.

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

[zach-Ka]

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

lol...I KNOW! track cars dont get hot!! Silly.If you dont want to hear what these fine fellows want to say then you shouldn't have asked the question.They are just trying to help and answer what you asked. I cant wait to see your rebuild thread.

[s13_chris]

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

Yah. This makes a a** ton of sense. Because drivers definitely baby their car around tracks. They arn't out there to race and push their cars a bit. They are there to enjoy the track's long nice lofty turns.

Don't ask for people opinion if you are too much of a thick headed failbag to LISTEN. You are not 240sxGodKingWTFzIknowzAllz man. There are countless amounts of people here with a assload more knowledge than you. So grow up and f***ing sit down and listen.

[zach-Ka]

But who really stand up at there computer? "failbag"

[Future_gohan]

lol wow. You guys are too funny. and there arn't countless amount of other builds who use stock radiators? hmm..nobody does? then why do I see it all the time? Seriously it is a good thing to have, but its not a necessity at the power I'm pushing. You won't be looking at a rebuild anytime soon so i hope you don't wait too long.

[blacksrjdm]

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

You really are an idiot arent you. Little bit of well known info...

TRACK CARS RECIEVE TWICE TO THREE TIMES THE ABUSE THAT A STREET CAR DOES.

Making it a track car, then I would also reccomend an external oil cooler. What kind of track car. Drag, drift, road course, etc...? I see your 18 and your posts are showing your age and your lack of experience. So, that really makes me wonder where you are even getting that it would be slightly ok to track a KAT engine with a factory rad.. Do whatever the hell you want, because from what I see, experience doesnt matter to you, but, because your head is telling you "you'll be ok" and your ritalin isnt working, ADD is getting in the way.

I'm gonna tell you now. There wont be a rebuild thread, it'll be a swap thread, saying that he didnt like the KAT or something like that. You have failed worse here than anyone else that I have seen. I mean, experienced people are giving you suggestions and you are just shrugging them off. Then why did you post here anyway???????? YOU ASKED US TO TELL YOU WHAT ELSE YOU NEED. WE TOLD YOU, YOU SCOFFED US OFF. So, you know what, hope it doesnt blow up, but I do hope that you buy the nessesary parts to make a reliable track car. A "track car" with a KAT and a factory rad and no external oil cooler. Yea, sike, you'll make it two laps and the gauge is gonna be pinned at hot. F*ckin complete foolish idiot.

If your drifting this....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Cant wait till you drift your first event. hahahahahaha. I went my first drift event, kind of unprepared, had stock rad, was young, thought I knew everything. I got through the course twice before I realized that I needed a rad. gauge was pinned at hot. Turbo was red hot. Got a rad and an external oil cooler, and never had another problem. And that was with a clutch fan. You dont need the electric fans. Just make sure you have the shroud, buy an alum. rad. Dont be an idiot, at the very least fight your point till the death, just make sure you buy the aluminum rad. Hell, they are cheap, i think the Mishimoto is under 300. God, I'll tell ya what, I just don't get it.


Modified by blacksrjdm at 1:40 PM 5/7/2009

[s13_chris]

lol wow. You guys are too funny. and there arn't countless amount of other builds who use stock radiators? hmm..nobody does? then why do I see it all the time? Seriously it is a good thing to have, but its not a necessity at the power I'm pushing. You won't be looking at a rebuild anytime soon so i hope you don't wait too long.

Yes you are right. But people don't use it for a track car. DD is usually the case. They arn't going out and tracking their car putting it through some serious hardwork. Quit cheaping out and buy the radiator. It'll save you money and won't be worrying about temp as much.

You basically just killed all your hope for any other advice btw.

[tmwnn]

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

I consider myself a noob with cars...but this.....these words can't be for real....This has to be a joke or something.

[zach-Ka]

This is what you need...

Save a poor 240sx...

[S13Joe]

lol. because of a radiator.. this is track only car, it won't be driving for hours on end.. so it won't have a chance to heat up.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL I vote post of the month. I especially liked how you ask for peoples help and then tell them they're wrong.

[rob912]

LOLOLOLOLOLOL I vote post of the month. I especially liked how you ask for peoples help and then tell them they're wrong.

lol

[aceof07]

Alright how about everyone shut up already and move on. so he's taking his chances with his engine, thats his problem but for the sake of running, a stock radiator will work. he should look into a mishimoto (sp) radiator of ebay since they are less than koyo and still kinda good.

[mattblancarte]

You really are an idiot arent you. Little bit of well known info...

TRACK CARS RECIEVE TWICE TO THREE TIMES THE ABUSE THAT A STREET CAR DOES.

+1 Not only should he upgrade the radiator, he should install an engine oil cooler as you've advised. Two laps in he'll need them.

I don't even get up to running temps on the street unless it's 75 degrees outside.

[Space Monkey]

PBM has rads for about $200. Check it out:

http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?11

Its a good investment, although only because its a TRACK car would you actually NEED an aluminum rad. a street driven 250HP 240 would be ok with the stocker rad depending on driving habits.

[sommmatt]

This thread rocks.

[mattblancarte]

• Manifold (Megan Racing Downpipe)

What kind of manifold do you have, or do you think the manifold is the downpipe?

[j-z]

im just posting to prove some other fools wrong in here about the radiator issue..... i built my s14 ground up with my own two bare hands, and no one elses. it was built with crower rods, arias pistons, cometic hg, new oem oil pump, water pump, s13 cams, clevite bearings, and thats about it internally. i didnt take one part to a machine shop. i ran that car everyday on 17 psi with a t3/t4 with an safc that i street tuned using a borrowed wideband. everytime i drove this car i drove the piss out of it. even a couple drift sessions here and there. the car had a stock rad, with e fans. i never had ANY problems with the stock rad. i did however once the upper rad neck broke far enough to where i couldnt fit the hose completely over it. it was cracked a little bit before since i bought it stock. after that happened i upgraded to a koyo, and sold the car about a month after that. dude drove from here in fl all the way to texas non stop.

you guys ever see some of the setups the honda guys run with stock rads??? only thing i read in here was stock rad wont handle this and that. well i call bs, and that it will. if it was a dedicated track car would i upgrade?? you bet your asss i would. im done.

[24j0hn]

if u do go stock rad... at least http://get this http://www.gtfactory.jp/cms/page.php?11
Modified by 24j0hn at 4:53 PM 5/7/2009