What do you guys think? More Interesting Ebay

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33742

I just got the manifold from these guys and it's REALLY nice for 150 bucks. It's got a nice support bracket to keep things from cracking...

Post by **solaris22** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

600 seems pretty steep for a near stock replacement, you could spend a little extra for the s15 t28 if you want a noticeable difference. Or just save up for a higher flow turbo, I don't know what your HP goals are but I don't think that ebay turbo would cut it.

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

if i can run SOLID 12.90's i'de be happy. I've rum 13.4 with everything pretty stock... Just all the stuff you change when you do a swap.

Post by **solaris22** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

turning up the boost to a little should help with that number, if your still short of your goal I'd suggest the s15 turbo, it's a great all-round turbo. And it's been proven to 300rwhp with proper tuning.

Post by **Redline240** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I'd suggest contacting the company and finding out how much they'd charge to rebuild your t25 to the t25/t28 hybrid setup...no doubt it would be like 400 or so, which would save you some cash and your stock turbo wouldn't go to waste!

Redline

Post by **rtsol** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

that turbo appears to be bigger than a s15 turbo(maybe i misread something). its comparable to the gti-r turbo which is bigger than the S15s. it also comes with the hks style elbow pipe. i think thats a really good deal, and if i had extra money right now i would jump on it.

Post by **f150intally** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Just FYI, the turbo elbow will not clear the steering shaft without modification. Not atleast on the S13 chassis.

Post by **xxtrizz** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

That elbow looks similar to all the other elbows they sell for 25/28 hybrids. Do you have this turbo and elbow set up f150intally? It looks pretty good. I was wondering however where do you get a S15 turbo from ive searched and cant find one.

Post by **Spyderman** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I wouldnt waste money on a S15 Turbo if you can do it w/ the T25. People have gone as deep as 12.8 and someone i know went 12.9 on stock sidemount intake exhaust boosted w/ open rear. So 12's are possible.

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

xxtrizz wrote:That elbow looks similar to all the other elbows they sell for 25/28 hybrids. Do you have this turbo and elbow set up f150intally? It looks pretty good. I was wondering however where do you get a S15 turbo from ive searched and cant find one.

http://www.phase2motortrend.com

Look under power upgrades.

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I have 2 T25's but i want a small upgrade because the T25 is really struggling to make 15psi. AND it won't hold that boost at the redline. That means it is outside its efficiency range. I'de rather hold 14.7 psi to redline and run 12.90 then try and run 20 psi on the T25 to get the same time.

Post by **solaris22** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

If all you want is a small upgrade then the s15 turbo is what I'd get, sounds like it would suit your appilcation fine.

Post by **SRdave240** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Spyderman wrote:I wouldnt waste money on a S15 Turbo if you can do it w/ the T25. People have gone as deep as 12.8 and someone i know went 12.9 on stock sidemount intake exhaust boosted w/ open rear. So 12's are possible.

not calling BS but I sure would like to see that slip for the 12.9 on stock sidemount and exhaust.

Post by **f150intally** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I bought that exact turbo elbow from those guys SSAutochrome for $99.00 + shipping. It is a very nice piece and as far as bolting to the turbo exhaust housing and down pipe, it is a perfect fit. However, when we dropped the motor in the car and started bolting stuff down, we noticed that it was bending the steering shaft. I'm running the stock T25.

I ended up pulling it off and banging it in until it does not hit so bad. I can still feel it hitting every now and then but it is not that bad. Hopefully I won't ever experience any boost creep from doing what I did.

I really wanted the greddy elbow but I just couldn't do it at that point.

-Jay

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Hey how close is the dump pipe to the transmission? i got the manifold from them and the factory dump tube hits the transmission... I'm thinkin' maybe that their dump tube has more clearance...

Post by **240SXer** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Is there any elbow I can get for my S14 with S13 SR20 that will clear the steering shaft?

Post by **FTRS14.5** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

so what's the verdict on this kit?? they are going for only like $350-$375 now!!!! the $600 is the buy-it-now price anyhow. good or not?

Post by **Magnum** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

".67T COMPRESSOR WHEEL CAPABLE OF .59 Lb/MIN AIRFLOW"This has to be wrong, at 59l=Lb/min wouldn't it out flow the GT25R?

Post by **240SXer** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Is that ebay turbo a bb? is it a t28 or a t25? they're pretty vague with the whole thing.

Post by **SRdave240** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Vauge? Did you read the auction?

"TURBO SPECS

SUPER HYBRID - Brand New By Stone Racing !

.80 A/R EXHAUST

.63 COMPRESSOR

.67T COMPRESSOR WHEEL CAPABLE OF .59 Lb/MIN AIRFLOW

BOOST AT 3000 - 3500

OIL AND WATER COOLED

WET FLOATING BEARINGS!

INTERNAL WASTEGATE @ 12 - 16 Psi"

btw - wet floating bearing = non-BB

Post by **Beau** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

So is it worth buying or not?

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I am waiting on my turbo outlet elbow... i have no idea about the turbo but guys are buying them... maybe i'll try to email a winner.

Post by **FTRS14.5** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I wanna know what's the deal with this turbo kit. Keep us updated if you decide to email a winning bidder. But shiat, for $350-$375, you can't go wrong with that (Well, you kinda can if the turbo is crap)!!! Oh, by the way, I saw somebody else on eBay selling the same EXACT turbo w/o the elbow for $550. And it still had a couple days to go last time I checked.........

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I've emailed the first 5 or 6 people to win this actuion. I'll let you guys know what i find out.

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

I'm also trying to dig up information about "Stone Racing" doesn't seem to be much out there right now. That is the company SSAutoChrome credits with building the turbo.

Post by **FTRS14.5** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Hey,I tried to do some research on them as well, but came up with some personal racing sites instead. Let us know if you get any other info. Thanks!!!

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

Here's what i have so far... not mutch really

*************************************yeah, I put it on a customer's car. they say that the turbo is a t28/t25 in reality it is just a regular t25. it does come with an adjustable actuator like the hks version. with the turbo, you have to reclock it and make sure the snap ring and all the bolts are tight, mine werent. the elbow fits ok, but it is a little close to the steering shaft on s13's. on an s14 it will clear perfect.cullen************************************Hey i havent recieved it yet, its not what i have on my car , this turbo is for a customer ive got a larger ts04 turbo on my sr20det but to tell you the truth the t25/t28 turbo is a bit small and not worth the upgrade, i know its cheap but the gains arent that much like you'd think especially if your t25 was running 0.7 bar already, if it wasnt get a "bleed valve" a fuel pressure regulator and hook it up, ill tell you how to if you want, the gains you will see are comparable to what you would see with the ssautochrome upgrade pretty much.

better to get a cheap manifold for a couple of hundread dollars and at least a t3/t4 turbo for the same price as the ssautochrome 25/28 as well as some piping and a nice intercooler kit, then you will see some gains that will be worth the money you spent.

Take care and tell me what you think***********************************************Hi Robert,

I haven't got the items at home yet, so I wouldn't know !What kinda car do you drive ? Cause I drive a pulsar GTIR (4wd 280 hp) And Ineed to change a few things before I can gett is to fit.***********************************************

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

hey, i have not put the turbo on the car yet, im still building my turbo project. i just need to finish my intercooler pipings then im done. but the turbo looks pretty sweet, real nice and clean, but you have to flip the housing around so the oil lines will be right, other than that i think this turbo is nice. the inside size of the turbo is bigger than the mitsubishi turbo.

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

just got another reply... it's from the ts04 guy

WARNING THESE ARE NOT THE OPNIONS OF ROBDET!!!

*************************************************i would look into getting a t3/t4 esp if youve got that stuff dude, the fmic takes ages to fill up on the old t25, plus the biggest problem is that the exhaust housing on the t25 is the same as the ssautochrome one and this exhaust housing is way too small for the sr20det esp running something like 1 bar of boost , reason is that more exhaust gasses are created from the increase in boost pressure and these exhaust gasses cant get out of the t25 fast enough , meaning the exhaust gasses are trying to go out and they are kept in the same place , if you get unlucky with this situation the exhaust gasses will flow backwards and frazzle your exhaust valves, its just too much heat thats not coming out.since youve got everything else go for a nice exhaust manifold and a t3/t4 a small one or even just a straight t3, its healthier on the engine and you will see gains that you can play with in the future if you want a little more power. No need for injectors or fuel pump even as you can run less boost if you want. plus the bonus in the future you can go with a fuel pump and an safc and you will see much larger gains.Also if you are thinking about the s15 t28 since its a straight t28 i am led to believe it doesnt bolt on straight to our stock manifold which is only a t25 flange, i had this problem when someone ordered a t28 off a gtr skyline for his sr20det and it wouldnt fit on straight..Also i dont know if the ssautochrome turbo needs the oil and water lines changed or if they will bolt up directly. Which will definately need chaning with a t3Ah a small tip when changing the turbo dont connect the water lines to the turbo , just bolt up those holes and connect the oil lines only. reason is that the turbo heats up the radiator water which in turn heats up the turbo even more. It doesnt actually act like a coolant.But at the end of the day if all you want is those 4/10ths and youre not thinking that in the summer you will want to plonk an safc and a fuel pump and up the boost a little. I would say go for it it will give you that extra power you want just be carefull there isnt too much back pressure from the size of the exhaust housing. ************************************************

Post by **RobDET** » Sat Dec 27, 2003 1:09 pm

So i don't know how to take these... I'm a little skeptical of the peoples knowlege.

What do you guys think? More Interesting Ebay

What do you guys think? More Interesting Ebay

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