what do u suggest econ build

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

yo im wonder what mods i should get on a SR. whats gonna get me the most bang for the buck with out killing the turbo ect! i know i can shoot boost up but im goin for reiliablity too!! what would u suggest for econ/reliablity mod's for around $500-$1000. And for eletronics i need to learn whats what and what i need(turbo timing, boost controllers ect) thanks

Post by **SWIFT_DRIFT** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

im need to learn whats what

You need to learn how to type. Then you need to learn how to search and read the FAQ's that are right in front of your face.

Post by **lok** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:im need to learn whats what

You need to learn how to type. Then you need to learn how to search and read the FAQ's that are right in front of your face.

Wow that was pretty harsh, but he is right about the faqs that answer all this. They can basically walk you through the steps in upgrading your SR.

Also is the 500-1000 your budget after get the engine installed and running? Because if you are swapping into a 90, I know from experience. If you are not getting clip, then you will spend 500 dollars on just parts from the salvage yard, depending on how well of deal you can get on the parts.

The rest of that 500 dollars will be spent on replacing basic maintenance parts on your car. Fluids and what not, misc parts from auto zone.

Basically check the faqs and you should be okay.

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

SWIFT_DRIFT wrote:im need to learn whats what

You need to learn how to type. Then you need to learn how to search and read the FAQ's that are right in front of your face.

that was so helpful, and the radiating kindness is abundantly glowing.

either a frount mount, catback, or boost controller and fuel computer. or save a lil more and do it all

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

s13ofdoom wrote:yo im wonder what mods i should get on a SR. whats gonna get me the most bang for the buck with out killing the turbo ect! i know i can shoot boost up but im goin for reiliablity too!! what would u suggest for econ/reliablity mod's for around $500-$1000. And for eletronics i need to learn whats what and what i need(turbo timing, boost controllers ect) thanks

with $1000 I would get:

upgraded Koyo radiator w/electric fans about $480Greddy Oil Pan about $2503" Ebay exhaust. about $250-300

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

oil pan? why

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

really radiator!! whats so bad about the stock sr radiator? and i might have a hook up with a tube bender so i'll probably do that on my own. and oil pan?? y not cams. and about electronics should i get one of those fancy computer controlled boost controlls or a manual control be good(put it down for regular driving and if someone talks **** raise it)? also is turbo timming really needed? k thanks!!

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

s13ofdoom wrote:really radiator!! whats so bad about the stock sr radiator? and i might have a hook up with a tube bender so i'll probably do that on my own. and oil pan?? y not cams. and about electronics should i get one of those fancy computer controlled boost controlls or a manual control be good(put it down for regular driving and if someone talks **** raise it)? also is turbo timming really needed? k thanks!!

oil pan because one of the most catastrophic tings with SR's are the usually crushed up stock oil pan and oil starvation which will destroy your engine. You could just get a brand new stock oil pan from HT and save a little money to buy a boost gauge.

radiator because the most common problem i have seen and personally had with SR's is overheating.

If I were you I wouldnt worry about cams and performance mods with your first $1000. Worry about the car running safe and sound. I mean even if you did get cams that means you most likely also have to get a fuel pump and fuel computer and since your going that route also get a Z32 MAF and just hope to God everything on the motor runs ok.

I personally use a manual boost controller because I feel like an electronic boost controller is overkill and not as reliable. I have a TurboXS 2 stage that works perfect. Low boost at 8 lbs and high boost at 10 lbs.

Here is another list that you can consider:

Boost Gauge $60Walbro fuel pump $90electric fans $1503" cheap exhaust $300new stock oil pan $1403" DP $150turbo timer $100

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

the stock oil pan blows, mine was dented so i just got a greddy one, its like 3x as big and more oil=good. Not a nescessary upgrade, just a safety precaution. If i only had a thousand dollars to use?

MKIV supra SMIC (good for more than 300hp) $150HT stainless steel downpipe $170Intake kit $120HKS/Tomei rocker arm stoppers $70BOV and Heavy Throttle hot pipe $300Nismo engine mounts $250Walbro fuel pump $90

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

So basically u guys think oil pan, radiator, intake, piping, boost controll and turbo timer? Im not really tryin to get a 500hp+ monster right now haha. So i guess goin for saftey would help extend my motor life and im cheap so that would be good!!

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

yeah I think safety should be the first thing especially with a used motor. Take care of the common problems first which is oil starvation and overheating. Then once the motor is completely stable I would move on to adding good power.

I actually like JSpec's idea of Rocker Arm Stoppers also.

So maybe this?:

Rocker Arm Stoppers $70Oil Pan $140 or $250 (Greddy)3" exhaust $300Walbro 255 lph fuel pump $90Boost Gauge $603" DP $150electric fans $150 or turbo timer $100

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

if you have 1000 bucks and a good turbo ide go...

555's SAFCZ32 MAFJoe P MBC

You can run 12's like that...

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

Right you need the Feul pump too... i forgot.

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

RobDET wrote:if you have 1000 bucks and a good turbo ide go...

555's SAFCZ32 MAFJoe P MBC

You can run 12's like that...

Dont you think all this would be kind of weak without a DP and 3" exhaust though? The stock KA exhaust is SO horrible compared to any simple 3" exhaust. 12's on the stock exhaust?

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

you know whats cheaper than a 3" exaust? no exaust

i highly suggest Rocker arm stoppers (RAS), cheapest way to prevent head damage from reving too high.

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

lol or just weld a flange on to a dynomax turbo muffler and bolt it straight to the DP....fireball time!

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

hahahaha im lookin to be a quite killer i dont want the cops attention any idea's?THis is what im thinkin (ras) $100koyo rad $300-400oil pan $200-300(if needed)piping and dp 200 ish if i do the pipe bendingmanual boost controller $?? (what are some good manual ones?)turbo timer $?? (recomend any good economic ones?)maybe some good fans if i have some extra $$ to blowfyi: this will be a daily driver im not goin for over kill yet(yet):ylsuper

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

For a fan get one off a pontiac fierro. You will need a fan controller. I got one from summit. I also have a JoeP MBC. I've been happy with the results for a MBC.

The best turbo timer is you. If you can deal with sitting in the car for a minute or two after a hard run you will be fine.

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

the Joe P. is a good unit. I use a TurboXS 2 stage manual boost controller and it works perfectly.

As far as turbo timers I will be using an HKS Type 1 (Type 1 is standard and Type 0 is metric) which in addition to fulfilling its timer duties also reads battery voltage, speedometer, 60 ft. times, 0-60 times as well as 1/8th mile and 1/4 mile times. I spent $100 on mine brand new.

Dont forget about the 3" exhaust either. You can always buy like a universal flowmaster or Dynamax and just have the muffler shop do some crush bent stuff if you want to go even cheaper.

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

you really dont need a upgraded radiator...

Post by **SCOOBYSHAG** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

true, just get the electric fans and then you can use the radiator money for exhaust

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

hahaha ya im gettin the front clip and gonna use dat stuff if it looks to be in good condition oil pan & radiator. i do have more than a grand but after i get my clip (2k) do some mods (1k) i dont want to spend all my money and i dont need the fastest car L.A. just something fun and reliable. and about the electric fans y a pontiac fierro fan(does it mount in a 240 easily?) and Turbo timer isn't really neccasary just leave the car sitting for a min or 2?

Post by **Phax** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

s13ofdoom wrote: ...and Turbo timer isn't really neccasary just leave the car sitting for a min or 2?

You gotta leave the car running until the exhaust gas temps drop down to a safe level. Sometimes it takes more than a minute or two. How much patience do you have? =)

I've spent 10 minutes in my car sometimes, waiting for the the RPMs to drop down from 1000 to 800. I figure if it saves the turbo and prolongs engine life, it's ten minutes well spent. If you're not patient though, you might wanna look at getting a turbo timer.

Hell, I'm patient and on the days when I'm sitting in a hot as hell parking lot, waiting for my damn car to cool down, I wish that I had invested in a turbo timer.

With regards to the meat of your question, get an intake and exhaust. Those will give you the most bang for your buck, and the most noticible performance increases.

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

just get the timer, youll be glad u did when ur late for work or something, if there was a naked chic in ur bed, would u want to sit in the car while it cools down? i wouldnt and the timer is like 120 and a harness is 20 so for like 150 ur good to go

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

hahahahhaha!! when would it take longer than a min or two to cool down? after hard driving hard?

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

yes, after hard driving hard....well put

yea that and a long drive, some timers will calcualate for you based on time and boost levels etc

Post by **RobDET** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

shutting the car off immediately from time to time won't hurt anything as long as you run good synthetic oil The reason you let it run is to prevent coking of the oil in the center section. As long as you don't just turn the car off all the time you won't get coking. It has to bulid up over time. Regular oil changes will prevent it as well.

Post by **s13ofdoom** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

k and about boost controllers i dont plan to be racing every light every stop sign. the only time i really want hi boost will be at designated times at tracks or someone at schools talkin smack. but besides that i want to be easy on the motor low psi. would u suggest a mbc? or an expensive comp controlled one?

Website · Post by **quiksilvia** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

get an eletric, the manuals can give uneven boost and some spikes, plus an electric one looks sick

Post by **Nathan** » Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:43 pm

It's all about looking sick...or not, there are good MBC's out there, one of the best least spike prone ones is the Joe P.

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