what do i need to beat a probe

[scuba_sean]

ok heres the deal, my girlfriend's ex just bought what i think is a 1990 ford probe. (i know it's a probe, just not 100% on the year). she and i both want to go race this guy in my 1990 240SX fastback. they're both standard's, but i know how to drive mine, and i think he's a bit rusty. i think i will probably be able to take him, as i dont think it's a GT, but i want to make damn sure i can win, because its like symbolic or something i cant really put my finger on. anyhoo, back to the point: what do i need to do to my car to win? i have the cat and resonator taken off of the exhaust, and i think im doing a custom short ram intake with a k&n cone, and ive got some royal purple gear oil in the transmission. im also thinking of advancing the timing, running it leaner and running premium gas? any thoughts?

[MainEvent212]

nitrous...

drop in an SR...

buy a fast car...

pick one...

haha these cars are definately not supras from the factory (nor should they be)

lemme rephrase

haha these cars are definately not silvias from the factory

[scuba_sean]

i know, but theyre really close in numbers. apparently the 240 runs 16.5, and the probe is suposed to run 16.2. i should be able to take him with a little bit of work, and i dont want to spend a fortune either.

[MainEvent212]

uhh...u shoulda got an s14...they'll run a 15.6 or so with less than 1k invested in bolt ons...

best bet? drop off ur exhaust from the cat back...

cut a hole in the bottom of your airbox...then route some pvc to an air intake hole in ur bumper...

that'll give u 2 hp or so lol...

[scuba_sean]

well i had the exhaust off from right in front of the cat, but i got **** for it being too loud. the air intake im putting on is gonna be better than the pvc thing. and believe me, i'd get an s14 if i could affoard it

[MainEvent212]

oh...well if ur gettin an intake the go for it...umm...what else can u do?

take out ur spare tire/jack...

take out everything extra...maybe even passenger seat...only 4 bolts or so...not very hard to my knowlege

[scuba_sean]

what would that save me? 5 lbs? i dunno if it'd make a diff

[Bud]

Um...how are you guys racing? What kind of start, to what speed or distance? If the cars are similar you can win with some strategy...btw, is street racing legal to discuss on these forums? On some it's a no noAnd mainevent212, you're a funny guy! A realist

[scuba_sean]

ya, he definetly knows the 240 to a tee. street racing can be talked about, but its frowned upon. we'll probably go to the track, so it'll be a good clean quarter mile. i'll go for a good shallow stage so i can get a lower ET, and im pretty sure i can drive stick batter than he can, as driving is one of my passions, and i learned on a stick. any other tips guys?

[MainEvent212]

lmao..no doubt man..

i'd give the jack/spare and **** at least 15 lbs..

the passenger seat should be a good 25 probably...then the rear is 15...

the rear is ALOT of work to take out and mostly permanant...

hehe spare change will save weight...

i kno a lil about these cars...still ignorant compared to alot of these guys here by a long shot though...

i'm workin on it

BTW i'm a 16 year old kid with a wickedly sarcastic sense of humor...

[nissanrcer240]

first off, you better check if its a GT, b/c if it is he will more than likely beat you, but if not i think you should have a pretty good chance doing what was said above/\.....

good luck, let us know what happens

[Onizuka]

you saved a good 150-300 pounds by not buying an s14 in the first place

[scuba_sean]

sarcasm rules! i love these boards, and im sorry i left ya guys for a while, i missed y'all

[scuba_sean]

and i know about the weight on the s14, but if i would have bought a 1991 instead of a 1990, i would have got the weight of an s13, but the power of an s14

[MainEvent212]

yeah that woudla been awesome..

but u definately lost about 150-300 looks cuz u skipped out on the S14 :-p

[Holisticbeatz]

Duuude, I know exactly what you're talking about. It's something like, losing is NOT an option. You gotta beat this guy! If it's a quarter mile street race, I'd find a way to cheat. If it's at a track, then I'd do the next best thing to cheating, 50 shot of NOS. Get some NITTO street slicks, light weight reduction, and run open headers. That's what I would do.

[MainEvent212]

yeah...i hear the cat helps keep power on the low end...u need a lil backpressure since theres really no power in the stock engine...

intake...pulleys if u can i guess?

nitrous if u can

do WHATEVER you can!

[MainEvent212]

haha remove your glass minus the windshield...

that's heavy stuff...maybe the trunklid and rear bumper...u wont crash into anythin backwards while ur draggin....

[Bud]

we'll probably go to the track, so it'll be a good clean quarter mile.

Good to hear, keep it safe :rolleyes How about dual front donuts or maybe something like this (it's old):

[SilviaLuvr]

uhh...u shoulda got an s14...they'll run a 15.6 or so with less than 1k invested in bolt ons...

best bet? drop off ur exhaust from the cat back...

cut a hole in the bottom of your airbox...then route some pvc to an air intake hole in ur bumper...

that'll give u 2 hp or so lol...

or a 93'. they care the same motor, but the 93 is lighter. YES all 700(or whatever) lbs lighter!wait a minute...wasn't this discused b4 but with a mazada mx6? i brought this up b/c i remeber someone saying that the mx-6 an dthe probe were the same cars...

[Syntax360]

do u have DOHC KA? When i had my girl (dohc) i consistently walked all over probes....GT or not, it didn't matter. Though there was one that was close until really high 3rd gear.....but still, moral of the story: they all lost

[daniel240]

i raced my friends 93 or so stock probe gt and beat him by about 3-4 car lengths.

[AZhitman]

Sorry - I've got this mental image of two guys in soapbox derby cars leaning forward in the seats to try to go faster....LOL.

Every 100 lbs shaves roughly .1 off your 1/4 mile time.

I'd recommend: Clean your intake and TB, put in some new plugs, flush your injectors, buy 10 gallons of race fuel (small airport), advance the timing, inflate F tires to 50 psi, take out excess weight, and take a good healthy dump before you race.

[Megaseth]

after that comment, im thinking of the simpsons episode with the soapbox derby.

[b240]

I'd recommend: Clean your intake and TB, put in some new plugs, flush your injectors, buy 10 gallons of race fuel (small airport), advance the timing, inflate F tires to 50 psi, take out excess weight, and take a good healthy dump before you race.

LOL

[Kevin613]

i have a 91 240 SE AUTOMATIC

and i whoop my boy badly in his 1994 Probe standard with cat back, intake.

man?

i dunno.. is this probe ur racing gt?

well i whoop this doods *** badly, but i didnt think a 1990 was that much different than a 1991 240?

[MainEvent212]

umm...that cant be right...

[yashin]

with just a few mods you shoud be able to beat him, what people don't understand about 1/4 mile times given to cars tested from the factory is that they are the fastest that u can go,

the probe may run 16.2 but if the guy doesn't know what he's doin he might run 17.0 or a slower time

also, besides weight reduction and adding mods, giv your car a full tune up, make sure it is runnig at its peak

if the other guy is a bad driver and hasn't had his car serviced, you shouldn't have a problem

oh yeah, good luck

[WhiteLight]

or if your a husky guy (be nice) like me you could loose 40-50 lbs. like i did

ganied it right back of course

[Emperor240]

if its a first gen probe with the inline four turbo BACK DOWN. i had a 90 fast back (now i have a 92 fast back) and the turbo inline four probe walked away from me on the street i WASNT EXPECTING THAT TO HAPPEN (yes it came factory with the turbo)