what do i need to beat a probe

[jrc90240sx]

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90 ford ProbeGL - I4 2.2L 110hp 130lbs/ft 2715lbs - you will beat *edit - as in you would winGT - I4t 2.2L 145hp 190lbs/ft 2870lbs - will beat you *edit - as in it would most likely win, and could even hand you your *** if modedLX - v6 3.0L 140hp 160lbs/ft 2715lbs - would come down to driver

hope this helps, if it is a GT just bolt ons will take it way up in HP, so watch out for that. also something to remember, *edit FWD losses less HP to the ground then you do.

Edit - got the numbers off of autos.msn.com

[scuba_sean]

how would a car with 130hp take me and a car with 160 come down to driver????? and what's FF? i also have an LSD, so i'll definetly get a better hole shot than him, as i can take many "fast" cars off the line. i think im gonna do my intake, advance the timing by 1 or 2 degrees, run some race gas, and maybe fiddle with the intake air temperature sensor to make it run a little leaner. wish me luck boys, but if anyone else has any other serious advice, please spill.

[Rockenreno]

and what's FF?

Front engineFront wheel drive

[Nathan]

did you see the torque #'s on the GT? TORQUE is how it'll take you...and it should do so easily...unless he's a sucky driver! Good luck in any case

[scuba_sean]

actualy, front rear looses less power to ground, cause of weight trnsfer

[Nathan]

I'm not sure if a FF or FR looses more to ground, but weight transfer would not be the reason for FR loosing less power to ground. The weight transfer just means that FR can make better use of what it does put to the ground (ie: better traction off the line).

[scuba_sean]

no, FR would get better traction off the line. when you cars begins a sudden acceleration, inertia makes all the weigh get transfered to the rear, and makes the rubber stick more. this is why i can get rubber in 2nd gear in the POS mazda 323 i drive for work!

[krazy skwerel]

damn it it's a probe and if its a base model 93-97 then its got a whopping 115hp. the 89-92 ones sucked as well, aside from the turbo, used to have a 93 and though it was fun it was no powerhouse. there is a guy in town that has a 93 gt and im am pretty sure i can whip his *** in a race with my stock 89 model cause he is a ****y driver. so just hope he is a ****ty driver.

[Gregariousgreg]

Swap in a Chevy V-8. He'll never see it coming. :ylsuper

Seriously, I think a nice little nitrous system is your safest bet. Dosn't take to long to install, not to much $ and it's plenty of quick horsepower.

[Holisticbeatz]

Better hurry up and order that nitrous system..

[jrc90240sx]

FWD setup is more eficent in getting its power to the ground then a RWD car, although like you said the shifting weight of a car helps a RWD car lunch better.

FWD has power go from the engine - fly wheel - transmission - dif - axles - tires

RWD power gose from engine - flywheel - transmission - drive shaft - dif that has to change the rotating direction - axles - wheels.

There are things to help reduce the loss, like a light weight drive shaft, better fluids and light wheels but its still not going to be as good as a FWD car.

FWD tend to loss 10-15% hp from engine to ground, RWD tend to loss 15-20%.

here is an example, 89-90 240sx 140hp stock makes about 120-125 at the ground. a 99 ford escort zx2 makes 122hp and 110-115 to the ground.

so that 140 in the LX v6 most likly has about 125-130 hp at the ground, and it makes more torque stock. thats why i said it would be close. a heavly modified 240sx would most likly beat it. I barily beat a 97 mazda MX6 witch is about the same thing has a newer probe witch has about 165 hp and runs about 15.7.

*editstock 89-90 240sx runs 16.5stock 89-90 GT probe runs 15.6-16

[jrc90240sx]

As for things to help you win comes down to money. best bang for buck is N2O 50hp-75 shot, then sr20 swap, then turbo kit.

as for small HP gains for low to moderate amounts of money, they have all been said, you could also look into underdrive pulley, electice fan, headers, short shifter, light flywheel, cam, ECU reprogram, smaller drag raidials in the back would be a big help as it would change your gearing and better gripm, as much weight as you can shave (all pass seats, spare and jack, and any other junk you might have in the car), have someone that weighs less then you drive, only have 1/4 tank or less left in your car, and good allarouns tune up.

the light weight driver would work for me as i weigh in at 240

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

ALL I WOULD SUGGEST IS PRACTICE ON UR LAUNCHING.. GET A TUNEUP CHANGE PLUGS AND WIRES OILCHANGE TAKE OUT ALL THE CRAP IN UR CAR AND MAKE A CAI.. THAT WOULD BE UR BEST BET.. CHEAPEST AT LEAST.. IF U HAVE SOME MONEY TO THROW AROUND GET A NO2 KIT.. A SMALL ONE.. LIKE A 50SHOT.. SO 500BUCKS AND 100BUCKS TO INSTALL IT AND UR SET TO KILL ALL FORD 4BANGERS AND V6'S TOO.. LOLJOE

[Holisticbeatz]

When do you race him?

[Bud]

Do you guys have a date set yet? Take some pics. I don't think you could bring in a ringer if you are a heavy guy, though...kinda ruins the whole honor of your girlfriend part. Would be funny as hell to get some little jockey sized dude to run the car for you

[scuba_sean]

this guy is a bit chubbier than me apparenty, but judging by how he drives around town, i dont think it'll be a prob

[scuba_sean]

i think i'l try to get him to come out to the strip on oening day (may 10)

[ZERO]

dont do it...its not worth your time. Are you really willing to look like a fool in front of your gilrfriend if something goes wrong. If you are going to race him make sure that you have enough power to take him out good, if not dont bother.

I would personaly just tell him to fudge off. Proove to your girl that you are more of a man than he is. Show her that you are more mature than that.

But as I said... if you really have to race him, just make sure that you know what you are doing, because if you loose she might say its ok, but subconsciously she might recognize HIM as being better.Something else you might be able to do is to let her help you out. if you need money you can ask her if you can borrow some for some mods. If shes really into it she will probably feel that this is her race too and that you are working toghether to get even with somebody that wronged her...

I think I will shut up now...I'm probably talking poop right now, I had a rough day.

[NISMOdrift240]

you could always beat it with a stick

[U12 2NR]

As suggested before, Give your car a proper tune up about a week before the race. Tune up items:

1. Spark plugs (double check the gap!)2. Ignition wires 3. Distributor cap and rotor4. Get a cone filter and MAFS adapter, even if it's a cheap $20 auto zone filter. If you can get a CAI, even better. 5. Make sure you clean your intake, I would go through at least 3 cans of throttle body cleaner over the duration of a couple of days (don't do it all at once). 6. Oil change7. Get a multimeter, test the various sensors on the car according to the FSM, replace or adjust accordingly. 8.) Fuel filter

Try advancing your timing and see if you feel a difference. A g-tech would be good so you can check for any good differences. Adding extra grounding wires seems to help other cars perform better, it certainly can't hurt you, try it. Underdrive pullies.Remove AC compressor belt.

I wouldn't advise you to use nitrous, it's the easy way out. Winning a race using nitrous isn't anything special, ANYONE can do it. I wouldn't advise gutting the crap out of your car either, you'll look foolish, simply remove things you don't need like the spare tire and jack and anything else from the trunk.

With all this done, it'll be a good race, regardless of if you win or lose. Good luck.

[s14sr20det]

I can beat any probe with my G35

[nismodave]

I can beat any probe with my G35

:rolleyes

[S14Life]

What about some new/better cams or something? Less friction = more HP/torque. Or you could sneak over to his car before the race and put olive oil all over his tires. lol Well your best bet, if the race is in a week or something, would to get rid of any excess weight and install an intake/exhaust if you can.