what car recomend thats fwd,IS hyundai good?

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well, im going to a snowy place and a rwd 200sx isnt too smart. so what fwd is good?

are hyundai durable cars? cause right now its between toyta,nissan and honda

i need a durable car

im looking for used not new


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ive had good luck with used corollas. had like 3 of them. what do you want out of it though? cause with a corolla dont look for nothing but an a-b car.

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As long as the car is well maintained and the previous owner has kept most of the records, just about any of the above mentioned will do. But you at least want to buy a car that looks decent, you will be driving it everyday you know.

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i want durable but reasonably fast.

around 5k cap

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Hmmmm, B13 and B14 Sentras, Some older Maximas, Altima's, Civics (good luck finding one that isnt overpriced there)...I could go on and on. Try Autotrader. Thats a big help.

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b13 abd 14 sentras? what years are those?

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B13-91 through 94B14-95 through 99

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the B13 SE-R is a nice ride. the 95-99 SE-R was a little heavier and therefore slower but theyre probably in better shape (less mileage). I really wanted the older SE-R before I realized the beauty of RWD.If youre looking for something realiable, I would stay away from older Hyundais. The newer ones are good but the older models (excel, scoupe, 1st tiburon?) cant match Japanese quality. But those are much cheaper than $5K...

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I know you didn't list it.. but VWs (esp Jettas/Golfs)have pretty good ground clearance for snow driving. and are obviously FWD. They can be had for reasonably cheap too. My Jettas been runnin great all winter. And up here, this is the coldest winter I've seen in a long time. had like 2 weeks in a row where temp. stayed in negative numbers,.

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jettas are ****ing bad a$$! my sister has an A2...and that bad boy handles real great......for a out of dated machine, the suspension handle great.....

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I wouldn't call most vw's reliable. I have owned quite a few of them. Fun to drive, but almost everyone had quite a few problems, even the newer ones.

If I had 5k to spend and wanted a dd. I would probably get an integra.

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Whoaaaaa, please be careful when looking for used Hyundai's. I had a 91' Excel that was a piece of crap inside and out, it deteiorated (sp?) as timed past, and it was taken care of on an average basis. 3rd Gen (1990-1994) Honda Accords are pretty good. I have a 91 Nissan Stanza thats speedy and ergonomically sound, love it! Be careful and pay close attention to records and details. Good Luck

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Hey man,

I know what your talking about on that snow thing, it was only lightly dusting here tonight and I couldn't go faster than 30mph. I had a 96 Cutlass that I paid $3,600 for it and I could go 70 mph in any weather and look good doing it. I would try for an older 4WD Impreza though, if only the rear wheel bearings didn't need replacing every 30k miles I would tell you to get an SVX, damn awsome looking car usualy for under 4,000 loaded. search ebay for Subaru SVX.

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if only the rear wheel bearings didn't need replacing every 30k miles I would tell you to get an SVX, damn awsome looking car usualy for under 4,000 loaded. search ebay for Subaru SVX. [/QUOTE]

The SVX rear wheel bearings DO have problems, but usually because they're improperly lubed at installation. I don't recommend this car to anyone who can't afford to maintain it. Parts can be rare & expensive. But the car's a dream to drive. I've had mine for three years & will NEVER get rid of it.

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Thank you for explaning further, yes they usualy wear prematurely because of over torquing on the axle nut and the lateral link bolt, and using improper bearing grease. I have always loved and wanted an SVX since I was 10, so what all have you had to do to your car? I found a website were it tells how to do the 5-speed conversion and have been considering buying one with my tax refund money.

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Go for the hyundai. I have an elantra with like 75,000 mi on it and all we do is change oil, and follow the maintenance schedule and we still get like 35 miles to the gallon. I bought the car new because it was like 10K and ive had it for 4 years with no problems. You can get a pretty new hyundai with low miles for under 5k. This is my second hyundai and my first one drove to 230,000 mi but i rear ended a honda so its dead now. Nissan and honda are on the high level of reliability but even with a huyndai when doing a brake job your looking at 50.00 for both sides with new rotors. The parts are cheap.

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mark2kay wrote:well, im going to a snowy place and a rwd 200sx isnt too smart. so what fwd is good?

are hyundai durable cars? cause right now its between toyta,nissan and honda

i need a durable car

im looking for used not new


Well, I assume you've seen the post about the Toyota truck, but my personal experience is with the Honda makes. I put >200K on my Civic and it is/was my winter beater until someone loaned me a '95 Integra for the winter, if I'd put brakes on it.

Find a Toyota, Nissan or Honda that hasn't been abused or wrecked and you'll get plenty of reliable miles out of it.

Good Luck.

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why don't you get an older subaru. If you're going to a snowy area who cares what it looks like. My neighbor got a '92 legacy beater early last year for $1200 and it rips through the snow. Perfect timing too. If you live in the Tri state area, you'll understand.

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Atl_240sx wrote: 3rd Gen (1990-1994) Honda Accords


Thats 4th gen ;)

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ok

so subarus are out of question cause not reliable and parts rare.

so are hyuandais crappy quality, im looking at accents and elantras

integras are about as expensive as civics

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mark2kay wrote:so subarus are out of question cause not reliable and parts rare.


no, subarus are reliable and have cheap parts.

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One more suggestion ... Mazda 323 GTX

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i read some epinions for svx and it listed parts as hard/expensive to get and transmission probs

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I say an old VW bug, reliability isn't an issue, nor parts cost or finding a mechanic, it's been hailed as one of the best cars for snow ever.

you could always find a Baja Bug:D

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A Subaru SVX is not "representative" of the costs/dependability of all Subaru cars. At the time (I believe) they were twice as expensive as the next available Scubbie, so the parts seem expensive in comparison to the "value line" of cars at the time.

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is the regular 323 any goood? it looks kinda ugly

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i second the accord route. my 93 ex has 100k on it and ive never had to replace anything and i drive it above average. in snow with studs its a champ.

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Rex wrote:A Subaru SVX is not "representative" of the costs/dependability of all Subaru cars. At the time (I believe) they were twice as expensive as the next available Scubbie, so the parts seem expensive in comparison to the "value line" of cars at the time.


As I previously stated, the SVX is NOT the car to buy if you have to choose between an oil change & groceries. It was a limited edition AWD luxury cruiser that was stickered at 32K when it hit the streets in '92. Many owners, including me, report no more problems with these cars than anything else out there. Then again, the drag strip crowd who shoulda' bought a Camero in the first place, may find ways to be in need of parts on a monthly basis. All depends on what you're lookin' for. For cheap reliability in the snow, stick with an Impreza.

Ron.

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A_Rivers wrote:Thank you for explaning further, yes they usualy wear prematurely because of over torquing on the axle nut and the lateral link bolt, and using improper bearing grease. I have always loved and wanted an SVX since I was 10, so what all have you had to do to your car? I found a website were it tells how to do the 5-speed conversion and have been considering buying one with my tax refund money.


Go to http://www.subaru-svx.net. for everything you'll ever want to know about these cars. There are several for sale on the "Wanted or for sale forum" right now. I've only had to do standard maintenance items plus one wheel bearing on mine in the last 3 years & 50K miles. I've spent about 2K on parts & service.

Ron.

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100Dollar240 wrote:As I previously stated, the SVX is NOT the car to buy if you have to choose between an oil change & groceries. It was a limited edition AWD luxury cruiser that was stickered at 32K when it hit the streets in '92. Many owners, including me, report no more problems with these cars than anything else out there. Then again, the drag strip crowd who shoulda' bought a Camero in the first place, may find ways to be in need of parts on a monthly basis. All depends on what you're lookin' for. For cheap reliability in the snow, stick with an Impreza.

Ron.


Better stated, but I think we mean/meant the same thing. The average Subaru buyer (in the early 90's) was not expecting the price/cost/performance this car had to offer. And the people that bought these "performers", that weren't Subaru people, thought they could abuse and replace the parts cheaply like they may have done on their GM, Ford, Honda, etc. I think it got an unjustly bad rep. I always thought they were way ahead of their time by offering a true AWD sports coupe in that price bracket, even Audi wasn't doing it well at that time.

My point was you can't compare it's upkeep to a DL :D

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