weight difference S13 Vs S14 (Searched)

[Ali 556]

hi,

i'm looking for the weight difference Between S13 & S14's...resone why i'm asking...

i'll build a drag car to run the ''super street'' class here..and this class limit you to only remove the pass side and the back seats.....and CF hood and trunk..and must have interior panels...and 6-point roll cage

my '95 S14 Se Auto weight is 1270kg = ~2800lbs with no driver and 5% gas in the tank....and i remper some dude on FA cut the rad support of his S13 Hatch and with a VQ and no trans the car weighted ~963 KG = 2150lbs

if any one know the weight of his s13 COUPE With a KA and Auto please post....or if you are 5 speed post'em i'll add the weight of a TH400....

thanks'n'advance

Regards,

Ali

[White Comet]

there are a lot of variable depending on the trim level and options but the s13 is generally lighter than any s41. the s14 has more weight towards the front and is one of the reason the tsuychia prefers it for drifting

[Ali 556]

ok,

lets say a 91-93 chuki SE Auto or 5 spd....STOCK with all interior panels...

Ali

[White Comet]

i wanna say that woudl be like 2600 lbs but im not sure

[mias13]

iirc there is like a 100-150 difference

[boznuttz]

Most base coupes are about 2600 to 2700 lbs dry.

[eazye2000]

My car full of junk, tools, and myself at the track a few weeks ago was at 3044 lbs. Full tank of gas. '93 Hatch 5-speed KADE-TurboDunno if that helps.

[White Comet]

iirc there is like a 100-150 difference

yeah its not really noticeable

[idahotuner]

thererr is more difference between a ful tank of gas and and empty tank of gas.

i beilive my sr20 swapped 1993 hatch weighs in at about 2300wit heverything i have done

now dont go flaming me becasue i havnet actualy weighed it, but it was pretty close to my friends set up and that is what his weighed in at

[koukicody]

89-90

Manual: 2657 lbs.

Automatic: 2695 lbs.

91-94

Manual:Base: 2699 lbs.SE: 2712 lbs.

Automatic:Base: 2759 lbs.SE: 2772 lbs.

95-96

Manual:Base: 2813 lbs.SE: 2826 lbs.

Automatic:Base: 2875 lbs.SE: 2888 lbs.

97-98

Manual:Base: 2813 lbs.SE: 2826 lbs.

Automatic:Base: 2875 lbs.SE: 2888 lbs.

[White Comet]

now dont go flaming me becasue i havnet actualy weighed it, but it was pretty close to my friends set up and that is what his weighed in at

thats interesting cuz our set ups are very close, except u have the sil front which helps a lot, but depending on how much lighter it is my cf hood closes the gap a little

[idahotuner]

SE: 2712 lbs.

changing to an sr drops this weight quit a bit plus al lthe interior panels that are removed and stuff. i am sure it is down to about 2300 or so

[White Comet]

anyone know how much lighter the front is

[idahotuner]

depends if it hasa motor in it or not hehe

[White Comet]

i mean the sil front compared to the stock front

[idahotuner]

i was wondering baout that to. i am not using the bumper extension so i know mine has to be lighter

[White Comet]

when u say bumper extensions, do u mean teh plastic body panel or do u mean brackets

[Ali 556]

ok thanks guys,

so lets say a 89-93 S13 With a KA-T and a TH400 And with no pass side and rear seats and with a custom made 6-point roll cage and aluminum ''racing'' seat and a weld drag lites (8lbs per rim) and CF hood-trunck should weight some where in the 2450-2600 lbs range...

thats with out a gas tank and with 10 gal cell....

can any one confrim if the slivia front end is lighter then the pignose/chuki front end and by how much....?

Thanks

Ali

[homeslicej2]

Silvia front is lighter than the pignose front by 24 lbs according to this article:

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.....html Check under the body section.

Just go to a local dump. If you have to pay to dump trash that is. They will have a scale to measure your vehicle weight before and after you dump so they know how much to charge you. So, take the car at whatever trim you want and let them tell you it's weight.

[Hijacker]

I weighed my vert in:

full tank of gas, SR, extra junk in the trunk

2960 lbs

You don't build a race car out of a vert for a reason

Spring time it'll be a more manageable 2850-ish once I swap the doors off for coupe doors.

I'd also like to drop 14 lbs unpsrung weight with the Z uprights I have for the rear suspension.

Also, for those thinking swapping an SR in, they don't weigh less than KAs. All in all, they're almost identical in weight.

[homeslicej2]

Also, for those thinking swapping an SR in, they don't weigh less than KAs. All in all, they're almost identical in weight.

I can't find it (thought it was in the article I mentioned above, might be in one of their later articles) but the SOHC KA was 493 lbs and the SR was 490. The DOHC KA isn't much heavier. There isn't a noticeable difference in their weight. The all alum SR weights as much though bc you need more alum than iron to handle the same amount of power, not to mention the weight of all the turbo stuff :-p Their pignose coupe weighed in at 2710 with A/C and power windows.

[White Comet]

I weighed my vert in:

full tank of gas, SR, extra junk in the trunk

2960 lbs

You don't build a race car out of a vert for a reason

Spring time it'll be a more manageable 2850-ish once I swap the doors off for coupe doors.

I'd also like to drop 14 lbs unpsrung weight with the Z uprights I have for the rear suspension.

Also, for those thinking swapping an SR in, they don't weigh less than KAs. All in all, they're almost identical in weight.

ha funny u shoudl mention that, in a another thread i said i wouldnt get a vert cuz theyre such fattys. i too thought the sr was lighter thu, not that i really care

[Hijacker]

I can't find it (thought it was in the article I mentioned above, might be in one of their later articles) but the SOHC KA was 493 lbs and the SR was 490. The DOHC KA isn't much heavier. There isn't a noticeable difference in their weight. The all alum SR weights as much though bc you need more alum than iron to handle the same amount of power, not to mention the weight of all the turbo stuff :-p Their pignose coupe weighed in at 2710 with A/C and power windows.

It should be in that article if it's the article I'm thinking it should be (I can't access SCC's website at work. It times out on loading).

An SR block weighs nothing. I can one arm it around, and I'm a scrawny dude. The crank is heavier than the block, however.

ha funny u shoudl mention that, in a another thread i said i wouldnt get a vert cuz theyre such fattys

I would never give my vert up. It's a pit porkier, but it's still a blast to drive. The verts get such a bad rap, unfairly.

[homeslicej2]

It should be in that article if it's the article I'm thinking it should be (I can't access SCC's website at work. It times out on loading).

An SR block weighs nothing. I can one arm it around, and I'm a scrawny dude. The crank is heavier than the block, however.

I would never give my vert up. It's a pit porkier, but it's still a blast to drive. The verts get such a bad rap, unfairly.

yeah, I scanned the article, but didn't re-read it. Wow , now I didn't know that the block was that light! Makes sense for the crank to weigh a crapload though. ~300 hp in a ~3000lb droptop on a beautiful spring/fall day =

[idahotuner]

when u say bumper extensions, do u mean teh plastic body panel or do u mean brackets

i mean the the whole bumper support. my car doesnt have one. and it sucks casue my bumper drups. so my dad and i are going to have to fab soemthing up.

i thought and sr would weight quit a bit lighter then a ka24de, cause it is a smaller motor and not cast iron, and with a tubular manifold isntread of the cast iron one and turbow extens0oin and soem other stuff changed to ss. it seems like it would maintane the weight differenct even with the turbo

[White Comet]

i mean the the whole bumper support. my car doesnt have one. and it sucks casue my bumper drups. so my dad and i are going to have to fab soemthing up.

i thought and sr would weight quit a bit lighter then a ka24de, cause it is a smaller motor and not cast iron, and with a tubular manifold isntread of the cast iron one and turbow extens0oin and soem other stuff changed to ss. it seems like it would maintane the weight differenct even with the turbo

ok got ya, bumper extensions are the pieces on the chuki or kouki bumpers that flush up w/ the fenders, the bumper support is totally different, i ahve no support either and i have no sags thu

I would never give my vert up. It's a pit porkier, but it's still a blast to drive. The verts get such a bad rap, unfairly.

yeah i understand how it is when u like a car that is slightly less popular. i have a rotary powered car in a family of chevy guys. my brother has a camaro, my dd has 2 chevelles and 2 truck, my grandfather has a 32 chevy and a 56 chevy pickup, and he used to be a mechanic for chevy. it is funny thu to go to Super Chevy and look at parts like valve covers and say things like, "psshhht, valve covers, i dont even have any valves to cover."

[Hijacker]

yeah i understand how it is when u like a car that is slightly less popular. i have a rotary powered car in a family of chevy guys. my brother has a camaro, my dd has 2 chevelles and 2 truck, my grandfather has a 32 chevy and a 56 chevy pickup, and he used to be a mechanic for chevy. it is funny thu to go to Super Chevy and look at parts like valve covers and say things like, "psshhht, valve covers, i dont even have any valves to cover."

Lawl. I feel you on that. My dad is a ford man through and through. To this day, he still refuses to believe that my 240 can outrun his '02 mustang gt. Everytime he sees my hood up, he says "Wow! That thing's rear wheel drive??" He's done that twice in 4 years now. He just doesn't believe that other countries can produce a car worth anything.

[idahotuner]

JAPAN FTW

[White Comet]

Lawl. I feel you on that. My dad is a ford man through and through. To this day, he still refuses to believe that my 240 can outrun his '02 mustang gt. Everytime he sees my hood up, he says "Wow! That thing's rear wheel drive??" He's done that twice in 4 years now. He just doesn't believe that other countries can produce a car worth anything.

hahaha, thats just like my dad, only hes slowly warming up to it. i wanted his opinion on my transmission problems so i was riding shotgun will he drove just around the block, as he was pulling into a gas station in first, some jerk whips around the corner too fast and his about to hit us. my dad just hit the gas enough to get into boost and we were safely in teh parking lot of the gas station, i could tell he was a little impressed and he just said, "hmmm, not bad."

[idahotuner]

lol yea the day after i bought my sr powered 240 i let my dad drive it and the first thing he does is rev the engine way up and dro pthe clutch i was like WTF and he is like that is how you test them lol. he smoked the tires and clutch all the way through third gear. haha. we had slick sitres to casue they were wore down. he kept hot rodding it until the the intercooler pipe poped off lol.