VG30DETT into 1989 240SX

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:31 am

Yes, FAYCEOFF is gonna do the automatic with paddle shifters. The company that makes it, TWIST MACHINE, has this kit for the 240SX already, so those of you with 1990-1993 automatic KA's, here's the chance to have something not too many people have in their rides. Check them out http://www.twistmachine.com/ It's also good for the Pathfinder.

Here's the product page

http://www.twistmachine.com/products/shrifter.html

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:38 am

Saturday morning, we will be taking the 240SX to a garage near our garage to start stripping out the car and getting it ready. We have a lot of rot to cut out and new metal to weld in before this chassis is even worthy of getting a transplant. Rule of thumb- never ever ever mod a car that is afraid of WD-40.

Post by **fayceoff** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:39 am

Call me so I can go with you to the garage Saturday, Dale. Yay!

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Fri Jul 13, 2007 3:58 am

I need you to call me at 3940-2301. I have had to get a new phone. Motorola RAZR phones suck! The damn thing had a mind of its own, so I cannot access the phonebook. As far as waiting on you to get here, we will be moving the car from my house to the garage, and I have to get the half cut from Salmabad to the garage.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:58 am

Ok... It's Monday evening here, and I'm beat! I took some pics of the rot happening in FAYCEOFF's 240SX that must be taken care of before we even start doing prep work to put that VG30DETT into its new home. Take a look at these pics. Some of you, and you know who you are, have it a lot worse off than this. Fred Flinstone kick-starts and e-brakes won't work. Ok, I'll shut up and show the pics

This is the driver side rail on the inside.

This is still the driver side rail just where the rail kicks up to meet the main rail.

Driver side inside the front wheel well.

Floor rot. Looks like an unclean gash that is festering. I was able to punch through with a screwdriver.

Me with my hand stuck in the rotted rail. Good thing my tetanus shot is still good.

My partner, Shakr holding a rot chip. Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please.

We were able to get a lot of work done today, and here's the result. jk! This is one of the Supra's we did for one of the local clients. A 1994 USDM Supra that was originally an NA. Now holds a stock 2JZGTE with manual gear. Her name is "Sexy Time".

Buttloads of hot gash, I mean hot cash has gone into this machine. It's nice to have clients who appreciate the finer things in life.

Nice rear!

Work Emotion wheels 18x10 wrapped with Pirelli P Zero rubber. Just silky sexy!

My friend and patron, Lawrence.

Next up... Garrett single turbo. We're working with Garrett to match the new single snail that will go into this ride.

Crew next door... The BMW Bros steady jackin' an E30 from Japan's slumped foreign car market

Post by **fayceoff** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:07 am

180sxfaktory wrote:Yes, I would like Pepsi, chicken shawarma and rot chips, please.

hahaha. yeah, yeah, yeah... I already told everyone that my car was a beater for the moment. Did you wash your hands, Dale? I'm glad I'm having that rot repaired here instead of in the States. It's going to cost 180 Bahraini Dinar, which is about $475-480. Quick, someone who does metal/bodywork in the US tell me how much this would cost there.

Oh, and that Supra is so sick it makes my stomach hurt. It's cars like that, that make me realize that I'm a bit of a hater. Ah well.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:37 am

Wash my hands? Man... my hands stay dirty! Hahaha! Yeah, I did

Just to let you know, that rot will be surgically removed minimum 4 inches in front and rear of the undamaged metal, floorboard will be removed and new metal floorpan welded in and the areas primed, painted and undercoated. To facilitate this work, we will be doing two things almost at once- removing that KA and assorted items while the artisans start doing their thing with the surgery to take care of the rot. I'll be bringing the halfcut to the subcontractor's place since we don't have any room at the shop right now. No worries... all in good hands. Good value for the money. Stateside... I have no idea what someone would even charge. Yes, Lawrence's Supra is plenty nice! We did work on it last night with replacing some light relays and hooked up the aircon and did some wire clean-up. The seats in Sexy Time have to go! I hate them. Lawrence will probably be opting for some BRIDE seats, since he's so JDM.

Post by **dexterous** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:02 pm

that's some good work.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:10 am

Thanks!

Post by **Kraayl** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 1:53 pm

I cant wait till this kit comes out, ive had a engine waiting now i finally get to put it in. Hopefully this doesnt completely break the bank.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:02 pm

There's really no such thing as a cheap swap, unless you got everything for free, and we all know that doesn't happen with any regularity unless you are sponsored and the sponsor is down with it. There's a trade off for every reason to do a swap. If the pros outweigh the cons, then there is value in the swap. I see people everyday who start a swap and then get stuck somewhere in the swap. No money for the peripheral items or essentials to make the swap work properly. Today, one of Shakr's friends came to the garage for some piping. I looked at the engine and the work done to it and almost blew my lunch. a twin turbo 1J with no intercooler, wiring that looked like a rat's nest, the ECU against the firewall behind the intake, PS reservoir not bolted down, rust stains from the radiator that blew dirty coolant (tap water in this case) all over the place, no exhaust. Man... I felt sorry for that car and that 1J.

Post by **Kraayl** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 5:59 pm

Oh yeah i understand its going to be pricey but i got the engine tranny lsd axles 5lug for cheap. Im not going to start the swap till i have everything im going to need, so even if i get your kit im guessing it will take a little longer to get everything else squared away.

Post by **Zee** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:11 am

Kraayl wrote:Oh yeah i understand its going to be pricey but i got the engine tranny lsd axles 5lug for cheap. Im not going to start the swap till i have everything im going to need, so even if i get your kit im guessing it will take a little longer to get everything else squared away.

Same way with me. I am starting to get everything I want and this swap kit another part on the list. I am even thinking about buying a parts car that has a 5 lug swap and a whole bunch more stuff just to try to keep the cost down a little. I really can't wait till next month to get this, and get everything else squared away.

Post by **KiNgEnMa** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:15 am

hey 180sxfaktory i sent u an email ^_^

Post by **cmoody2006** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:35 pm

you wouldn't believe what i've stumbled upon......

I have a 89 s13 240sx that has the ka24e motor in it. i bought it for 1,300 bucks about a year ago and unfortunately it has 4 lug hubs in it. so I've been looking at prices for the conversion kits and they are outrageous. Well a friend of mine has a 90 300zx with the 5 lug hubs that will fit the 240. I'm getting a hell of a deal i'm buying his whole car for $450 bucks and thats including a set of 17" konig monsoon rims - check em out there nice. The car is a fricken steal the only reason i'm getting it so cheap is b/c one of his friends was working on it and pulled out the dip stick and when he went to put it back in he grounded out the motor he accidently hit the positive battery terminal and touched the motor. well when he did that it fried 3 of the fuel injectors and thats all it needs and it will run. So i've been thinking about doing the vg30 swap in my 240 since i'm basically getting a whole car for free all i'm technically paying for is the wheels b/c there worth around a grand. so with that in mind i'm gonna have the 5 lug conversion and i plan to do something wild that i haven't seen anyone do yet. I've measured the t-tops out of the 300 and they will fit in my roof. My 240 has never had a sun roof so its all sheet metal. and i hope to have my hatch open sideways thats another thing i'm trying to do with mine. So not all swaps are expensive you just have to find dumb ppl

YouTube · Post by **MeanGreenS13** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 3:58 am

cmoody is putting another nissan in the dumps... riced out crap

anyway, whens this gonna be available... it ssummer... and a few people and now myself want to know... WILL THIS WORK ON AN S14?

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:22 am

As soon as I finish FAYCEOFF's 240SX with this swap (the first one outside of VG240), and then we will sell the swap kit. As for an S14, we have a friend who has one and Shakr's talking to him to "loan" us the car to do a test fit. S13, S14 and definitely S15 do not fall out of the sky around here, so I apologize for that.

YouTube · Post by **MeanGreenS13** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:44 pm

i dont think there will be anyone interested in doing this swap in an S15 anytime in the next 80 years lol but an S14 is what i am going to have to work with, and id like to do it... are you using a factory subframe and modifying it?

phil

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:14 pm

No. I graduated from modifying the subframe to making a tubeframe. You've asked me before about this, right?

YouTube · Post by **MeanGreenS13** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:12 am

no, i was still under the assumption it was a modified factory subframe... what do you expect the price of this to be around? ballpark

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:43 am

MeanGreenS13 wrote:no, i was still under the assumption it was a modified factory subframe... what do you expect the price of this to be around? ballpark

Man, if I even try to ballpqark it now, I may be shooting myself. I'll announce it next month after the first client's car is done.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:47 am

We got the rust rot taken care of in FAYCEOFF's 240SX. I did my inspection of the work, and I gotta hand it to the artisans at Shakr's uncle's place, they know what they are doing.

Now that the chassis is structurally sound with new metal and fresh welds, we can start the process of yanking out the KA and start doing the fabbing up for the VG30DETT's new home. I will go back over the repaired areas and reinforce, as necessary, once everything is taken out.

Post by **fayceoff** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:10 am

Yay! You are going to do the Z32 caliper swap for me, right, Dale?
Modified by fayceoff at 9:22 AM 8/4/2007

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:50 pm

Yep!

Post by **fayceoff** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 6:23 pm

Post by **SilviaConFb** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:25 am

Wow, I dont have a 240sx yet, but I have been planning on buying one, as it is my favorite car, I have been researching around about the Ka-t and sr swaps, even looked at the vq swap that just came around.

I get so tired of all the whining and flaming on the ka vs sr vs Ca, its gotten so old and has so many fanboys that I can never really get a awnser that doesnt seem tainted.

After seeing the VG30DETT swap on here I have fallen in love with it, as I only really want my car for a stang stomper and a track car on the weekend when I have time. I've always loved the 300zx tt's, especially the sound of the dual exhaust........mmmmmmm..

I like the way the engine sits in the bay, it looks awsome.

the only thing that I have searched 4 forum sites (including this one) I have not yet found the weight for the VG30DETT as oppossed to the Ka and how the motor swap effects the front/rear weight ratio. It seems to me that the motor is going to be a little heavier but it sits back farther, I would think that its probally feels pretty balanced.

How has this swap affected the handling and weight ration, this is my only question.

look forward to the release of this kit

also would like to see any vids you have of the car running please send to [email protected]

thank you

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:56 am

I will weigh this car once it is completed. As for how the S13 chassis reacts with the VG30DETT in full trim, it stays pretty neutral, since the CG is moved back a bit.

Yeah, all these flame wars over this engine and that engine and which is more superior is pretty old. Every engine is going to have its plusses and minuses, as cars go, not everybody likes the same stuff. That's a good thing, because it promotes creativity and keeps things off balance. I hate balance, meaning, I hate cookie cutter cars.

As for the video of this car going through the paces, that's gonna be AJ's job. I don't think he'd appreciate me rodeoing his car. As for the original car that debuted last year. The original owner and my original partner has moved on to greener pastures, and I wish him luck. I never got the videos for that car, but a lot of people in the Middle East saw it and it did get through nightly beatdowns in 100 degree heat for 30 days straight with nothing happening. The last time he came out with the car, which was the kickoff for F1, in which six of us came out and did a drift exhibition, the engine was hurting. He came up to me for help and I passed him off to Shakr. Shakr asked him where his mechanic was. A strange situation, but we got through it. The guy ended up thieving two of my new Bridgestone tires that I received as compensation.

Post by **SilviaConFb** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 5:03 am

Yeah I feel ya there, I'm definitly interested in the swap, any extra pics or what not send to my aforementioned email address. Hope to be doing business with you in the future, alot more if your move to Nc happens since I'm located in Sw Va, (blacksburg).

Post by **fayceoff** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:57 am

I don't mind you rodeoing it, as long as it makes it to me intact (hopefully by Christmas). I have every faith that if you break something, you'll fix it.

Post by **180sxfaktory** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:04 am

Believe me, mang, anything I damage, I will replace. By Christmas? Not even that long! Also, when I see you, I am gonna need a copy of your orders so that I can give it to Personal Property Office.

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