VG30DE(TT) in a S13... Your opinions...

[macs240]

i have a vg30de, trans, wire harness, ecu.....everything i need to do it but i dont know what mods i need to do ......... a lot of you are saying "its a lot of money" i all ready have everything i need so what do you thing go with the swap or sell all of it and turbo my ka24e 12v single???

[jdmfreak]

Sell the stuff nd go turbo KA or SR. It'll definately be cheaper. If you sell them how much do you want for those parts? Not saying Ill buy them, but its a thought.

[macs240]

THE THING IS I DONT WANT TO KEEP MY KA 12v SINGLE CAM

[masticatingcow]

THE THING IS I DONT WANT TO KEEP MY KA 12v SINGLE CAM

What's wrong with it?

As far as mods go, you're looking at (and this is a brief list... there's MUCH more):

Custom intake and exhaust manifolds (price varies)Mounting hardware, incl. cross member work and such (at LEAST 300)Wire harness splice/modification (price varies)Mods to transmission tunnel (maybe, if DE engine, maybe not)

and the list goes on... just to get the engine and transmission IN. Nevermind the performance upgrades you'd need to do to keep all that power in check, such as the brakes, clutch, suspension, differential, etc.

Needless to say, it adds up. For finanical purposes, you'd probably be better off turboing the KA24E or swapping the SR or CA like someone already said. You can get comprable power for significantly less that way.

If you REALLY want to swap the VG then you have to understand that most people dismiss this as an unrealistic option (which, for the most part, it is... ) I would ask that you research as much as you can and contribute to this thread with your findings (costs, shops that'll do the swap, legality, etc.) Since it's so expensive and labor intensive, most people correctly assume it's not worth the effort.

LOL, but that doesn't mean I won't try. Muah ha ha ha ha ha!

[RMiller]

Masticatingcow, how's the project coming? It looks like I'm going to try the same thing, and I'm also in Socal (Fullerton&Irvine). It'd be nice to see the research you've done, because I'm actually going to do most of this myself, and I'm going to start throwing my money away really soon.

-Ryan

[masticatingcow]

RMiller,

MOST of what I've found has been brought up in this thread. Since May, I've been caught up in finals and graduations and such, so I've had very little time to forward the project. In fact, it's on a long term hold... since April I've discovered that I need to replace a great deal of my suspension, all my wheels, and brakes. Nevermind that I'm pounding that poor KA into the ground (30 miles a day average) just to get to work and back.

I'm still all about seeing it through though, so just let me know how I can help you. If you have the time and money to undergo this project, you're already a year or so ahead of me... I'll gladly share what I know if you need it.

Thanks.

[jdmfreak]

Only 30 miles a day? My mom does about 140 miles a day and my dad does about a maximum of 100 miles to and from work.

[masticatingcow]

Only 30 miles a day? My mom does about 140 miles a day and my dad does about a maximum of 100 miles to and from work.

30 miles a day adds up when you have repairs to do ANYWAY, get paid less than 1000/mo, have 700/mo in bills, rent, etc, pay your own tuition, and pay 2.25/gal for crappy 87 octane.

I'd be willing to wager that your parents have relatively new cars that need less attention than my 14-year-old, 212000-mile 240sx. I'll bet they get paid better, too, and can save more than 300 dollars each month. I'll bet they pay a lot less for better gas, and I'll bet they don't plan on dropping any substantial amount of money into their cars on power mods.

But thanks for contributing.

[easymmkay240sx]

Wow. You're ready to drop thousands on your car but you can't even pay for repairs for your current stuff? Sounds to me like you need to get some priorities straight.

If you're financial situation is that bad, maybe the only swap you should be looking for is a lower mileage KA...

You talked about sponsorships...who would sponsor a street car? Do you plan to race it? Pro? That'd really be the only way I see you getting sponsored for such an undertaking....

[masticatingcow]

Don't get me wrong, guys, I respect your opinions and what you have to say, though clearly you haven't read much of the posts in this thread. In defense of myself, I would reiterate, as has been stated repeatedly throughout these posts, that FUNDING has thus far been the most pressing issue. You suggest that I am "ready to drop thousands on my car" when I have been very clear that I am, in fact, NOT willing to do so at this time.

All I wanted out of this thread was to see what reseach had been done in this area of modding. As you might imagine, I found little. It is disgustingly obvious to me that too many 240sx owners are just sheep copying a formula for power that OTHERS have created. No one likes to admit it, but we all stand on the proverbial shoulders of giants. I mean, before the super hardcore JDM-tyte dori-dori-dorifto craze hit, the SR swap was a feat to accomplish. Now, everyone and their mom can have an SR dropped right under the hood. The same goes for the RB and CA swaps, along with the KA-T buildup, though I still give more credit to those KA guys for the sheer amount of faith they have.

Now someone (perhaps a few people) explores a different avenue, or at least one that is less illuminated, and all you can come up with is "you need to get some priorities straight," effectively ascribing yourself a follower. Note that no money has been spent in this process. NONE. Yet, I "need to get some priorities straight." You think I don't understand the importance of FUNDAMENTAL repairs/replacements but ignore that it is for those very reasons I have not dropped one dime on the project.

At any rate, I would appreciate it if attacks on my character and priorites were limited to private communication (read: e-mail). If you think you're adding to the discussion by saying "it's a stupid idea", "ha! your problems are nothing" or "you're an idiot" etc etc, then I would remind you that I have heard it already. Again, review the posts in the thread.

But, if you still feel like your $.02 are worth MORE than everyone else's, and that you, and ONLY you, are capable of bringing me out of my heathen ignorance, I welcome your e-mails. Expect replies.

[jdmfreak]

Well I was in no way attacking you. Ive read everything in this thread since you started it. All I was saying was that 30 miles a day didnt seem too much to me. You were correct in assuming that my parents have newer cars than you. My mom drives an 04 Murano and my dad drives the 99 Windstar. Even my car is newer(Mom's 95 Max), but Im in the same boat as you. There's a lot of work needs to to be done since there's nearly 300k miles on the engine and body. My car is a real POS. So Im getting another 95 or 96 Max. I dont even have a job and gas isnt too much of a problem here in NY as it has been going down $.02 every day($2.07 for 87 now) I forgot that you live in CA so the prices are higher.

Anyway Im sorry if what I said came off wrong to you, but it wasnt meant to be the way you thought it was.