Vertical Doors

[Jackal7808]

Well, I personally like my vertical doors.

I was searching the net and saw this forum on vertical doors, and started reading out of curiosity, I purchased the vertical doors from Vertical Doors Inc approx 7 moths ago.

I'm 29 years old and I'm an aerospace engineer out here in Burbank California. I daily drive a 1999 Saleen Mustang S351 which I purchased new in Oct of 99, I love the car and refuse to upgrade, I destroy my colleges in there newer cars. In fact one being a newer Z06 corvette, which is a very nice car I hate to say LOL. I have done many mods to my car since I purchased it, mainly in performance, handling, powerplant, ignition, fuel, induction, etc. I have upgraded the car to a point where the Saleen performance equipment that came standard on the car seems very poor in comparison to its performance levels now. When I purchased the car stock it dyno'd at about 490 HP which was lower than they advertised of course, but since I have owned it and worked a little magic, it now dynos approx 637HP at the rear wheels. Now Keep in mind I drive this thing daily to work LOL. I have also moded the suspension and run this car through the ringer on the Los Angeles crest to a point to where it almost meant my demise.

Now for the argument that the vertical door hinges add weight and cost horsepower, yes they do add weight and of course cost horsepower, but were talking less than 10 horsepower, now as far as I'm concerned I have horsepower to spare, and if I need more I can get it, what it comes down to is money, and the ability and knowledge to perform the mods or have them done, I prefer to do all my own work.

As my car stands with the Vertical doors installed I can beat just about everything I have raced. I have raced Murcielagos, 360 Modena's, Marinello's, GT40's, Porsche's, modified Cobra's, Viper's, Z's you name it, down on the sunset near Hollywood over the years I have raced many cars light to light, and yes lost a few unfortunately, but most I have won, some of the higher end car guys literally looked like they were gonna sh** their pants because a mere cheap mustang just handed them there high dollar a**.

So the argument of lost horsepower? Well okay that is up to you and what your capable of, but if you load my car with four people and your my equal and say now beat me, I will say give a month and I will. I know everyone here is well capable and or knowledgeable on making horsepower, we are all car guys, and of course horsepower is key and first and foremost to us die hards, but the horsepower loss created by the hinges is quite minimal, if it was substantial, or I was professionally racing, and the cars power-plant build potential was at its max horsepower output, and I wanted to win an opponent that was my equal, then that would be a different story, but the hinges on the street have never cost me a race.

As far as looks go, everyone seems to like them, I have rolled up on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood on Santa Monica or on Lankershim, my girl and I get out and people watch and compliment. Many many times I have had people just compliment the car or the doors in general on how nice it looks, or kids will thumb me up, if I go out on a weekend its almost certain to happen. Riding solo I have had had girls come up and compliment the car or say how neat the doors are, we all gotta love that. Looking good is important in Beverly hills and Hollywood true, thats why I wanted to add style to my car to make it look spectacular, and let me tell you their are a lot of spectacular cars down there, but make no mistake spectacular or no, I want to win a race if matched, and I do, an the hinges make no difference in that aspect, at least to me.

So congratulations on your new Vertical doors, enjoy them. I have never been an import fan, but I salute everyone that takes the time to modify their cars to get good HP and to get some good looks, it takes effort and dedication to build a nice ride, and that goes back to the days when hot rodding the streets was king and first and foremost!

Take care all, and keep building! Gizmo

[shift_2.5]

hehehe this tread rocks

just gotta put my 2 cents

Love the doors, love the look, love the attention. Would i ever do it to my coupe....nope/never!

why? simple. First off is resale value. i love my coupe...but i do plan to sell it eventually. Second: is the price! Several high performance mods can be done for roughly the same price. Third: i'm a tall bastard! My work garage is made for damn hobbits!!!! and my house ain't that much better. I can already see myself banging my head (and door) on everything from the ceiling to the walls.

its a question of practicality as far as i'm concerned. Like i said, great to look at...maybe even want. But in the "real" world those doors might cause more harm that good

[dangeris]

OMG

is that sick or what?!!!

I don't know what all the fuss and argument is all about in this thread...Looking at the picture, I don't see any vertical doors or a coupe!Is it just me?.....

[Mr_Coupe]

understandable sir ur right i dont care what people think about me rebadging my car.. its a slim to none chance that they would ever make a se-r coupe so hey who cares but its not a mod that can hurt me.. but vertical doors? ehhh down the road they r gonna be a big problem.. any way i think they look better on z's beacuse they have G35 doors with the door and the window.. not the whole door i don't think they r for us coupe owners but ur entitled to your own opinion my friend

[johnny_d]

same here

[rjdmmfl1]

LOl,

I just found it funny that jackal joined this group just to leave a page long thread about how fast his car is, how good it looks, and how many cars it beats. Yes a 640+ hp vehicle wins races and gets attention. Its a saleen, that's what its supposed to do... but what the hell did any of that have to do with this thread???? In the end, its still a ford...lol

But back on topic, I really do think its unfair that folks have blasted Mr. Lane's taste in getting the doors. Especially since HE didn't start the thread to show it off, someone else did... and for that someone else....

mcheddadi, as your slight elder, I beg you to reconsider putting these doors onto your coupe! YOU WILL REGRET IT in the long run!!! But hey, its your car!

[adidas2go]

Yea this guys retarded

Now for the argument that the vertical door hinges add weight and cost horsepower,, but were talking less than 10 horsepower

Show me anyone who has ever lost 10 horsepower by putting on vertical doors

I have raced Murcielagos, 360 Modena's, Marinello's, GT40's, Porsche's, modified Cobra's, Viper's, Z's you name it

Raced GT40's huh? Where, the 1966 24 hour LeMans ?

some of the higher end car guys literally looked like they were gonna sh** their pants because a mere cheap mustang just handed them there high dollar a**

You own a $60,000 MUSTANG. With probably 15k in mods. Cheap mustang i think not. You yourself are one of the high dollar yuppies you speak of sir.

I prefer to do all my own work

No one who thinks they loose horsepower with door mods does their own work.

[SHIFT_CR]

I wonder why is a ford guy on a nissan forum?! haha and why is he giving us a life story of his mustang? if he can "beat" all those marvelous cars, lets see him race the GTR!!

When i had vertical doors, sometimes when someone didnt pull the door all the way down, you can hit the inner door with the locking hinge, hated when that happened

The hinges i had, they were from vertical doors also and they weight more like 30 plus pounds a piece.

If i had to do it all over again, i probably would for the ohhhs and ahhhs, but not on an altima coupe, just cars with the frameless windows...

[bigred311]

Well, I personally like my vertical doors.

I was searching the net and saw this forum on vertical doors, and started reading out of curiosity, I purchased the vertical doors from Vertical Doors Inc approx 7 moths ago.

I'm 29 years old and I'm an aerospace engineer out here in Burbank California. I daily drive a 1999 Saleen Mustang S351 which I purchased new in Oct of 99, I love the car and refuse to upgrade, I destroy my colleges in there newer cars. In fact one being a newer Z06 corvette, which is a very nice car I hate to say LOL. I have done many mods to my car since I purchased it, mainly in performance, handling, powerplant, ignition, fuel, induction, etc. I have upgraded the car to a point where the Saleen performance equipment that came standard on the car seems very poor in comparison to its performance levels now. When I purchased the car stock it dyno'd at about 490 HP which was lower than they advertised of course, but since I have owned it and worked a little magic, it now dynos approx 637HP at the rear wheels. Now Keep in mind I drive this thing daily to work LOL. I have also moded the suspension and run this car through the ringer on the Los Angeles crest to a point to where it almost meant my demise.

Now for the argument that the vertical door hinges add weight and cost horsepower, yes they do add weight and of course cost horsepower, but were talking less than 10 horsepower, now as far as I'm concerned I have horsepower to spare, and if I need more I can get it, what it comes down to is money, and the ability and knowledge to perform the mods or have them done, I prefer to do all my own work.

As my car stands with the Vertical doors installed I can beat just about everything I have raced. I have raced Murcielagos, 360 Modena's, Marinello's, GT40's, Porsche's, modified Cobra's, Viper's, Z's you name it, down on the sunset near Hollywood over the years I have raced many cars light to light, and yes lost a few unfortunately, but most I have won, some of the higher end car guys literally looked like they were gonna sh** their pants because a mere cheap mustang just handed them there high dollar a**.

So the argument of lost horsepower? Well okay that is up to you and what your capable of, but if you load my car with four people and your my equal and say now beat me, I will say give a month and I will. I know everyone here is well capable and or knowledgeable on making horsepower, we are all car guys, and of course horsepower is key and first and foremost to us die hards, but the horsepower loss created by the hinges is quite minimal, if it was substantial, or I was professionally racing, and the cars power-plant build potential was at its max horsepower output, and I wanted to win an opponent that was my equal, then that would be a different story, but the hinges on the street have never cost me a race.

As far as looks go, everyone seems to like them, I have rolled up on the Sunset Strip in Hollywood on Santa Monica or on Lankershim, my girl and I get out and people watch and compliment. Many many times I have had people just compliment the car or the doors in general on how nice it looks, or kids will thumb me up, if I go out on a weekend its almost certain to happen. Riding solo I have had had girls come up and compliment the car or say how neat the doors are, we all gotta love that. Looking good is important in Beverly hills and Hollywood true, thats why I wanted to add style to my car to make it look spectacular, and let me tell you their are a lot of spectacular cars down there, but make no mistake spectacular or no, I want to win a race if matched, and I do, an the hinges make no difference in that aspect, at least to me.

So congratulations on your new Vertical doors, enjoy them. I have never been an import fan, but I salute everyone that takes the time to modify their cars to get good HP and to get some good looks, it takes effort and dedication to build a nice ride, and that goes back to the days when hot rodding the streets was king and first and foremost!

Take care all, and keep building! Gizmo

well i either call BULL SH*t on you owning a saleen or u just dont know about your own car, saying it put down 490hp stock on a dyno, when it only puts 495 to the crank, u go with that, and if your putting down 670's then, i dk if i should assume crank since thats what u were going by on your earlier statement with the 490, or should i take that as whp, either way your still slow, and thats coming from an ex mustang owner, and if you really wanna test the car come over to tampa fl and get yank city, so yea to be honest i just dont think u really know anything about cars, or u just dont know how to read a dyno chart.........BTW nice look with the verticles on the lambo

[mcheddadi]

mcheddadi, as your slight elder, I beg you to reconsider putting these doors onto your coupe! YOU WILL REGRET IT in the long run!!! But hey, its your car!

As my slight elder, lol. Come on, let me enjoy my youth! VERTICAL DOORS MAN!? you have a kid but I don't and by the time I get to your age I'd probably have already teared and stripped down my altima to super light weightiness with a quad turbo setup and All wheel drive transmission swap lol. this Is my youth car, my PROJECT D car, you know, the one where you go all out crazy before having kids and a familly.

it's like telling a teen to skip his teenage years and to not do crazy stuff. Even if it's not the "smart" thing to do, it's hell lot of fun and awesome to do. Imagine this. I'm driving along and and I stop to get some groceries and I get out of the car with my door going up in the air. SOOO COOL!

and anyways, when I get kids, I'll get a sedan or, even worse *GASP* A MINIVAN! lol

[rjdmmfl1]

As my slight elder, lol. Come on, let me enjoy my youth! VERTICAL DOORS MAN!? you have a kid but I don't and by the time I get to your age I'd probably have already teared and stripped down my altima to super light weightiness with a quad turbo setup and All wheel drive transmission swap lol. this Is my youth car, my PROJECT D car, you know, the one where you go all out crazy before having kids and a familly.

it's like telling a teen to skip his teenage years and to not do crazy stuff. Even if it's not the "smart" thing to do, it's hell lot of fun and awesome to do. Imagine this. I'm driving along and and I stop to get some groceries and I get out of the car with my door going up in the air. SOOO COOL!

and anyways, when I get kids, I'll get a sedan or, even worse *GASP* A MINIVAN! lol

LOL... i feel ya my man.. like I said, i did it also on my last vehicle. Only thing is, no one was there to warn me of the difficulties that I would encounter after doing the doors. Just felt I would put it out there for you to think about... anyway, enjoy yourself my man... YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE!!!!!!!

[Shift_Altima]

Yea this guys retarded



Show me anyone who has ever lost 10 horsepower by putting on vertical doors

Raced GT40's huh? Where, the 1966 24 hour LeMans ?

You own a $60,000 MUSTANG. With probably 15k in mods. Cheap mustang i think not. You yourself are one of the high dollar yuppies you speak of sir.

No one who thinks they loose horsepower with door mods does their own work.

[Jackal7808]

Wow, well there are always critics out there LOL, but I guess thats what makes hot rodding fun, you have to have the competition LOL.

I only told you guys about myself and my car to give you a little background on my standing, as with any presentation you need to provide credibility, for example, I certainly would not listen to a guy that walked up to me with his sisters Honda Civic, a Cold air intake, Coke can exhaust and a type R emblem from pep-boys try to tell me what horsepower is. Hence why I thought I would give you guys a inside of my ride and what I have done and raced, I know there are guys out there and some on this forum that think 637 HP is quite insufficient, but hey that’s what I have, what can I say.

Now adidas2go, that’s my point sir, you are not going to lose 10 HP with the hinges, each unit I purchased weighs approx 28lbs, (which as I previously stated) would cause a loss of under 10 HP, rather it be 3 HP or .3 HP I do not know, that would take testing. The point being the weight of the hinges would not substantially affect your performance unless you were racing professionally. Now if I’m not losing horsepower in quantities of 10HP or more then personally I don’t give a Sh**, that is my personal point. So if you’re going to call someone retarded, either read more carefully or just look in the mirror and go for it!

Okay adidas2go, this one even makes me laugh, you need to try picking up a magazine or come out of that cave your in, I make it a point to keep up on car news, even on cars I’m not interested in, but this is old news. Is adidas2go really that un-aware they started producing brand new GT40’s with 500HP????????? Now the original is better to us all, but yes I have raced new GT40’s, believe it or not they make them adidas2go LOL, and they sell them to someone. LOL now adidas2go, I would like to race in the 1966 24 hour LeMans that would be a kick, but I would probably need a Dalorean and some movie magic, and that’s just to get my *** back there. Pick up a Car and Driver Mag my friend!

Adidas once again LOL, I mean my car is considerably low cost as compared to some of the 200,000$ cars I have raced, I mean look at the Murcielagos, beautiful cars, with a beautiful price tag, my car is nothing as compared in price. Maybe I’m a lower level yuppy eh? And I’m certain they do not sweat the payments on there cars as I have mine in the past, when I was laid off from aerospace when (sep 11) took place I thought I would lose the car for a while, so hey wish I was a rich yuppie, I just went to school and finally have a good stable engineering job, the car is at last paid off, and I’m thankful. The mods I did were expensive, and it would be hella expensive if I did them all at once, but who can other then the yuppies you reference LOL, I have owned my Saleen since 1999, it has taken a period of time to build mine up and I’m proud of it, but yes it’s not cheap. And adidas2go, I do all my own work down to acid porting my own intake manifolds, the only thing I do not do, due to not having the equipment or facility, is machining, and **** I would do that if I had the equipment, I enjoy it. I worked as an A&P structural specialist for many years when I first started my engineering internship, so believe it or not adidas2go I work on my own ****.

As for what my car being dyno’d BigRed311, yes I meant crank HP, I’m very sorry I was not more specific, I did not state in my previous writing rather the 490 HP was at the flywheel or the rear wheels I apologize, I stated that (When I purchased the car stock it dyno'd at about 490 HP which was lower than they advertised) this is true, Saleen advertises crank horsepower higher than it ran on the dyno, I should have notated that more accurately for specifics. The mods I have done have put me at approx 637 HP at the rear wheels, which I stated, which is where the main focus of my after mod readings are focused, where it counts. Now if that is still low HP to you and slow, then kudo’s to you, you probably have one hell of a setup, congrats. If you want to run sometime I would be more than happy to, either if you’re down this way in California or I’m ever in Tampa, FL we’ll run’em I always love a good race, and by the sounds of it you have a quick ride.

Now all, enjoy your rides rather import or (American), and if your ever in Burbank/Hollywood keep an eye out for a Black 1999 Saleen cruising around, it’s probably me, if you think my **** is slow okay, hit me up and we will run’em, sounds like fun, lets see what you got!

Take care all; I leave you to your forum! And again nice Lambo doors mcheddadi, don’t let anyone’s put downs on what you like bug you!

[mcheddadi]

Wow, well there are always critics out there LOL, but I guess thats what makes hot rodding fun, you have to have the competition LOL.

I only told you guys about myself and my car to give you a little background on my standing, as with any presentation you need to provide credibility, for example, I certainly would not listen to a guy that walked up to me with his sisters Honda Civic, a Cold air intake, Coke can exhaust and a type R emblem from pep-boys try to tell me what horsepower is. Hence why I thought I would give you guys a inside of my ride and what I have done and raced, I know there are guys out there and some on this forum that think 637 HP is quite insufficient, but hey that’s what I have, what can I say.

Now adidas2go, that’s my point sir, you are not going to lose 10 HP with the hinges, each unit I purchased weighs approx 28lbs, (which as I previously stated) would cause a loss of under 10 HP, rather it be 3 HP or .3 HP I do not know, that would take testing. The point being the weight of the hinges would not substantially affect your performance unless you were racing professionally. Now if I’m not losing horsepower in quantities of 10HP or more then personally I don’t give a Sh**, that is my personal point. So if you’re going to call someone retarded, either read more carefully or just look in the mirror and go for it!

Okay adidas2go, this one even makes me laugh, you need to try picking up a magazine or come out of that cave your in, I make it a point to keep up on car news, even on cars I’m not interested in, but this is old news. Is adidas2go really that un-aware they started producing brand new GT40’s with 500HP????????? Now the original is better to us all, but yes I have raced new GT40’s, believe it or not they make them adidas2go LOL, and they sell them to someone. LOL now adidas2go, I would like to race in the 1966 24 hour LeMans that would be a kick, but I would probably need a Dalorean and some movie magic, and that’s just to get my *** back there. Pick up a Car and Driver Mag my friend!

Adidas once again LOL, I mean my car is considerably low cost as compared to some of the 200,000$ cars I have raced, I mean look at the Murcielagos, beautiful cars, with a beautiful price tag, my car is nothing as compared in price. Maybe I’m a lower level yuppy eh? And I’m certain they do not sweat the payments on there cars as I have mine in the past, when I was laid off from aerospace when (sep 11) took place I thought I would lose the car for a while, so hey wish I was a rich yuppie, I just went to school and finally have a good stable engineering job, the car is at last paid off, and I’m thankful. The mods I did were expensive, and it would be hella expensive if I did them all at once, but who can other then the yuppies you reference LOL, I have owned my Saleen since 1999, it has taken a period of time to build mine up and I’m proud of it, but yes it’s not cheap. And adidas2go, I do all my own work down to acid porting my own intake manifolds, the only thing I do not do, due to not having the equipment or facility, is machining, and **** I would do that if I had the equipment, I enjoy it. I worked as an A&P structural specialist for many years when I first started my engineering internship, so believe it or not adidas2go I work on my own ****.

As for what my car being dyno’d BigRed311, yes I meant crank HP, I’m very sorry I was not more specific, I did not state in my previous writing rather the 490 HP was at the flywheel or the rear wheels I apologize, I stated that (When I purchased the car stock it dyno'd at about 490 HP which was lower than they advertised) this is true, Saleen advertises crank horsepower higher than it ran on the dyno, I should have notated that more accurately for specifics. The mods I have done have put me at approx 637 HP at the rear wheels, which I stated, which is where the main focus of my after mod readings are focused, where it counts. Now if that is still low HP to you and slow, then kudo’s to you, you probably have one hell of a setup, congrats. If you want to run sometime I would be more than happy to, either if you’re down this way in California or I’m ever in Tampa, FL we’ll run’em I always love a good race, and by the sounds of it you have a quick ride.

Now all, enjoy your rides rather import or (American), and if your ever in Burbank/Hollywood keep an eye out for a Black 1999 Saleen cruising around, it’s probably me, if you think my **** is slow okay, hit me up and we will run’em, sounds like fun, lets see what you got!

Take care all; I leave you to your forum! And again nice Lambo doors mcheddadi, don’t let anyone’s put downs on what you like bug you!

[adidas2go]

would cause a loss of under 10 HP

One more time. YOU DO NOT LOSE HORSEPOWER WITH DOOR MODS. You are only adding wieght! Loseing horsepower would have something to do with the drivetrain of the car. Are you bolting your super doors to you engine? I think not.

So if you’re going to call someone retarded, either read more carefully or just look in the mirror and go for it!

Yup read it numerous times now... Still retarded...

Is adidas2go really that un-aware they started producing brand new GT40’s with 500HP?????????

The Ford GT40 was produced from 1966 to 1970 for the soul purpose of racing in the LeMans circuit. Now the Ford GT, not GT40, has been produced since 2004.

Pick up a Car and Driver Mag my friend

I have a subscription. Something tells me you dont

[Jackal7808]

Adidas2go LOL, your are one of those guys I thought I would only see in the Fast and the Furious movies LOL! I forgot I'm talking to a young boy that has no idea of what were talking about here LOL, I made the mistake of thinking you knew the basics of what we were talking about when we say lost HP due to weight. I'm talking about usable horsepower boy! Like any engineer or hotrod guy would know, I'm not saying the horse power disappears from the power-plant like magic little man. I'm saying the usable horsepower to the ground is reduced by weight an the factors that act on that weight, you need to go back to school and learn about gravity and mass in motion and the forces it take to move that mass or act on it, it sounds like you missed that class.

Anyways boy, I'm trying to figure out what friend you called or what magazine you just bought to find out about the new GT40 LOL, your one of the howly's that calls it the Ford GT, even ford representitives themselves introduced the car as the new GT40 LOL boy. Try this little guy, go to google search, and no I'm not going to tell you how to do that LOL!

Go to Google or get mom to take you there and type in the new GT40 and start reading boy, and while you do that read on the dimensional data as compared to the original, and also the history and R&D to design the new model, which there's not much because it almost the same car LOL.

Wow this guy is unreal, I'm starting to think he drives moms car and gets on here to talk cars to talk to all the you guys on this forum that really know their s*** in hopes of picking up some LOL!

I'm gonna leave speedy to you guys, I'm getting to involved with this LOL take care to all and keep building!

[Jackal7808]

One more thing, I just noticed this guy adidas is in the Navy, LOL nuff said! I was wondering why adidas was giving such amazing and intelligent mind blowing replies LOL (Joke) !!!!! I'm assuming he joined the Navy to get out of a car payment. They'll get you when you get out adidas!

Anyways take care all! Good luck with adidas

[notaverage]

Adidas2go LOL, your are one of those guys I thought I would only see in the Fast and the Furious movies LOL! I forgot I'm talking to a young boy that has no idea of what were talking about here LOL, I made the mistake of thinking you knew the basics of what we were talking about when we say lost HP due to weight. I'm talking about usable horsepower boy! Like any engineer or hotrod guy would know, I'm not saying the horse power disappears from the power-plant like magic little man. I'm saying the usable horsepower to the ground is reduced by weight an the factors that act on that weight, you need to go back to school and learn about gravity and mass in motion and the forces it take to move that mass or act on it, it sounds like you missed that class.

First of all you are an idiot. Second, you being an engineer makes me look bad. I am also an engineer, I have 2 (count em two) degrees in engineering, one in Mechanical, and the other in Aeronautical. And claiming you are an engineer to prove you are smart is truly retarded, because your response to adidas HP discussion proves your are stupid.

You say any engineer would know that the usable HP is reduced, are you kidding me? The power plant puts out 490 USABLE HP before losses through mechanisms. Saying that, power is lost because of weight, is NOT what an engineer would say. Engineers go to school to learn to be MORE SPECIFIC of exactly what they mean, without throwing around terms that contradict their point. The proper way to say what you had meant was, "adding hinges gives the effect of losing HP". Learn how to talk like an engineer, before you start advising others to go back to school.

My question to you, what aero company do you work for? I would like to call them and tell them to re-review any documents you have released.
Modified by notaverage at 5:19 PM 1/17/2008

[godsgift]

One more thing, I just noticed this guy adidas is in the Navy, LOL nuff said! I was wondering why adidas was giving such amazing and intelligent mind blowing replies LOL (Joke) !!!!! I'm assuming he joined the Navy to get out of a car payment. They'll get you when you get out adidas!

Anyways take care all! Good luck with adidas

hey jackal, post up some pics of your car..

[adidas2go]

Im in the Navy as an Inflight Avionics Comp Tech. On my way to being a pilot. Some people have to fly the planes you develop yea?

No, no one here is breaking it down as far as to use quantum mechanics in the factor of weight=body, horsepower=drivetrain.

So i put it in google...and look what popped up

GT40

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT40

GT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_GT

The new ones are bigger, wider, faster, and tallerThe original was called a GT40 for the fact that the car was 40 inches tall.The old ones used a 4.7L motor and 7L motor. Not a SuperCharged 5.4L.It was almost called the GT43 but it was called the GT in the end.

Yuppies at car dealerships are just trying to sell you the car. 90 % of them dont know anymore about the car than the professional underwater basket weavers they are selling it too.

As for my credablility. Look at this forum, and at my car

Thanks. Have a good night.

[Big_Carp]

I definitely agree lambo doors are played out. They should only belong on a Lambo. Nothing else.

[Jackal7808]

Wow, this guy is an engineer, now I'm scared LOL, he must be in the Navy too. He sounds about like adidas, I think adidas must have gotten upset and got his father on here to say that.

Now, you are an Engineer, and you say that weight does not affect usable horse-power to the ground for roll of a piston engine propelled object?

I'm not talking about mechanical losses of horsepower through the drive-train specifically Mr. big time engineer? I'm talking about added weight on a propelled object on wheels in general, however, even in mechanical losses of HP through the drive train, the weight of the mechanisms themselves and the forces acting on them still play a significant part in the loss of HP, and further depends on design of the parts etc within the drive-train and how they distribute that weight on rotation.

On a car when weight is added it causes an increase in natural forces which then must be overcome by the engine (period) to get the wheels rolling, but in the case of 46 lb door brackets, I think that all of these factors are hardly a concern although it does change the characteristics no matter how minor or un-measurable it may be. Now, It would take more weight than the door brackets we are discussing to induce a substantial change in the performance of a car, but lets load you car (say an equal to my car), and load it with a 1000lbs and race my car at standard weight, then tell me weight did not induce change.

Wow I learned all that basic information back in the associates degree days, what school did you graduate from?????? I think they should lose their Accreditation. Stay working on ships, no airplanes aloud for you, hundreds of people fly on them!

Every mechanical engineer I have met knows and understands these basic elements, and I have had the opportunity to work along side some of the best, rather it be military or commercial aviation.

Now using my engineer background to gain credibility is quite okay, when I go to see the doctor you damn well better know, I want to see some credibility that he knows what he is talking about when he is talking to me about things concerning my life, rather its a fancy degree or certification on the wall, something, otherwise I would just go to joe blow on the street and say hey hows my heart and don't worry about your experience, just tell me something LOL. Same thing when I sign off an aircraft for return to service, depending on the project either the DOD for some of your Navy fighters or FAA for commercial wants to know I know my **** and see the proof that I do before the sign off is complete.

Now big time engineer, I don't just talk **** like your son their, I let people know that I'm knowledgeable so as not to waste their time. You on the other hand I cant speak for LOL, sounds like you just want to protect little buddy there, coming out of no where just jump my case,throwing around I have two degrees etc, I'm sure you may, I'm assuming lower level however. I have a primary and secondary degree also and many many certifications as well, prob more than you have fingers and toes, and thats not including the Licenses. I came on here because people were ragging on a man that fixed his car up with a component he liked and they did'nt, and I thought that was harsh, not like you and adidas just to talk trash.

Now mister big time engineer, you have embarrassed me! You have taken what I said a step further throwing around degree's and such outside the context of proving credibility, so please look at yourself before you look down on others.

And if you want to play that fine, but I assure you, I have far more going for me, in position in the industry (Aerospace), and position academically then you prob ever will, and I can see that by your replies for your son there.

Now thats it I'm done, between this yahoo and the other one I'm truly embarrassed, not just for me but for everyone LOL!

Take it easy all, And keep building, good luck with these guys!

[godsgift]

cmon jackal, dont worry bout them, post pics!!!!

[Jackal7808]

Well adidas, that was a respectable reply, I'm impressed.

I remember in 2002 when Safir GT40 Spares licensed the use of the GT40 trademark to Ford for the first show. That is when Ford introduced the car as the new GT40, only taller, wider, and longer and with AC for comfort characteristics of everyday use. This will have to be one of those things we agree to disagree on adidas LOL, the design of the car was derived from the old 40 almost to the T, and die hards call it that, the designation by law and what it is are definitely different things to me, I guess GT43 or GT44 will fly, but its always a GT40 to us Ford freaks. Take it easy addidas.

http://www.nzmustang.com/NewMustangs/newgt40.htm

[Shift_Altima]

I really don't get why we're still arguing.. One guy puts on cool doors and is excited. Let the walkin' man stride!. One guy doesn't like them and we've got a 10 round vegas pay per view fight. Or is it 12.......? don't wanna start another fight about how many fights are in a boxing match..

[mcheddadi]

JACKAL7808: -this...this...THIS IS MADNESS !

ADIDAS2GO:Madness?? THIS, IS, NISSSAAAAANNNNNNN!!!!!



oki that's enough guys, personal mail's there for a reason. this thread was about vertical doors

[notaverage]

Did you just try to explain basic physics laws to people to pass off as something clever? Yes, we all know that weight slows the car down, good job!! You've earned a degree!! You said you lose horsepower by adding weight, there is no such thing. You don't believe me, ask your brilliant co-workers. There is no such term as "usable" horsepower, there is only power generated and loss due to efficiencies.

And are you serious about calling me a "big time engineer"?? YOU were the one trying to pull out your engineer card to gain credibility for your stupid mistake. I'm not the one who wants love for getting a damn degree. Having this or that degree doesn't mean crap, and it obviously shows with you. I wouldn't go to a doctor who gets bad feedback, or prescribes wrong stuff just cuz he graduated from med school, so reputation/knowledge matters.

I'm sure you realize your statement about losing HP due to weight was incorrect; so please, just admit you said the wrong thing, and meant something else, and we can drop it. There is no way in hell you're gonna convince me or someone else that what you were saying was correct.

PS: I don't even know adidas2go, it made me angry that you kept saying the wrong thing, and then were arrogant just because you are an engineer.

[adidas2go]

sorry i enjoy a spirited discussion every now and then. . I'm done I apologize.

[2brian0]

Wow....this thread actually made three pages! You people are passionate about how you feel about some doors.....again, WOW!

[Shift_Altima]

imagine if this thread was about something like an engine swap?! holyyyy crap i'm afraid to think how long the argument wouldh ave went on for.